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Republicans Could Bend On Taxes If Super Committee 'Goes Big'

First Posted: 11/16/11 12:43 PM ET Updated: 11/16/11 04:51 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- A bipartisan group of lawmakers suggested Republicans would be willing to raise certain taxes to shrink the deficit, as long as the debt-cutting super committee "goes big" and seeks a package of savings worth at least $4 trillion.

The committee, formally known as the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction, is tasked with reporting out at least $1.2 trillion in debt reduction measures by next week, but it seems hopelessly deadlocked over the issue of raising revenue through tax increases.

The lead Republican on the committee, Rep. Jeb Hensarling (Texas), has suggested the GOP would be willing to raise $300 billion in revenue through tax reform, which would mean the rest of the savings would have to come from spending cuts and programs like Social Security.

But at a press conference with dozens of lawmakers from both parties and chambers Wednesday, legislators who have already signed a letter urging the committee to "go big" suggested more revenue should come into the equation -- even though many Republicans have signed pledges against raising taxes and 33 senators have written a letter adamantly opposing tax hikes.

"This is about more than money," said Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), the third-ranking Republican in the Senate. "It's about whether the president and the Congress can competently govern, about whether we can face up to the biggest problem facing our country and, working together, can we solve that problem."

"And of course we can," Alexander said. "We now have Republicans who've put revenues on the table. We have Democrats on the super committee who've put entitlements on the table. Both need to put more on the table and get a result, and we're here to support them."

While Alexander's comments fly in the face of the anti-tax orthodoxy that Republicans back, members of the "Go Big" coalition said they may just have to get over it.

"Each of us have stated our preference of what we would do if we were doing it ourselves," said Sen. Mike Crapo (R-Idaho). "The Republicans would have said that they don't believe raising taxes right now is the right way to go. I come from that perspective."

"What we are here today, however, to say is that we are ready to make compromises and build the solutions that can help bring all the parties together," Crapo continued, offering one of the first statements from a Republican lawmaker during the longstanding debt debate that suggested tax increases could gain GOP support.

But in order to reach such a compromise, the coalition argued that the cuts included in the super committee's set of recommendations have to total $4 trillion or more, a figure that would require significant sacrifices by Democrats, likely including substantial Medicare and Social Security cuts.

"If we go big, it actually becomes easier," Crapo said. "The fact that you may have members standing here who have different ideas about how far they personally would like to go on taxes and how far they would personally like to go in entitlement reform does not mean that they are not ready to stand here and make the kinds of decisions that will help us as a nation."

Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) emphasized the need for the super committee to be ambitious.

"Going bigger is better in terms of the impact it will have and says to the world, 'We get it,'" said Durbin.

"And going bigger is easier politically," he added. "It doesn't sound right, does it? It sounds counterintuitive. When you start putting enough on the table that both political parties, House and Senate realize that this is historic, it is worth the political risk."

That political risk is substantial. Democrats have been running on a platform that includes attacking the GOP for seeking major cuts to Social Security and Medicare. Agreeing to such cuts would undermine that argument. Republicans, meanwhile, would risk a backlash from the Tea Party and other anti-tax purists if they back away from their revenue pledges.

But with the super committee still looking deadlocked, the "Go Big" coalition aimed to offer some political encouragement, and cover.

"Super committee, we got your back," Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) said. "We support you."

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This story was updated to include Alexander's comments.

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J0E1 03:22 PM on 11/16/2011
Let's put it this way. We are going into debt by nearly 1.2 trillion a year. This "super committee" and our current congress are fighting tooth and nail and can't come up with 1.2 trillion in cuts over TEN YEARS. That's 1/10th of what we need just to break even. I just find it mind blowing that anyone thinks this country is going to last another 100 years. It's just not going to happen. If the rest of the  Read More...
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PotomacOracle
The Solution:debt free credit clearing systems
02:01 PM on 11/17/2011
“It is not about deficits. A sovereign government can create as much currency as it needs to pay its creditors. Bernanke has done just that with all of his QE's. And from whence did Bernanke acquire the $17.1 trillion to bailout American and foreign banks over the period 2007-2010? And now we must cut $1.7 trillion in programs for the people to assuage Wall St.

OWS

"But of course, it is all about the banks! Wall Street knows that to get sufficient Congressio­nal votes to roll back the New Deal, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, a Democratic president needs to be in office. A Democratic Congress would block any Republican president trying to make the kind of cuts that Mr. Obama is sponsoring­....cuttin­g back entitlemen­ts and other social spending.

The Republican­s help by refraining from putting forth a credible alternativ­e presidenti­al candidate. The effect is to give Mr. Obama room to move far to the right wing of the political spectrum. Far enough so that it is his own Democrats who are most intent on scaling back Social Security, not the Republican­s.

This is done most easily under pressure of near panic. This worked after September 2008 with TARP, after all. The Wall Street bailout melodrama should be viewed as a dress rehearsal for today’s debt-ceili­ng non-crisis­."

Source: Dr.Michael Hudson, www.michae­lhudson.co­mâ€
mataylor16
You all want it one way. But, its the other way. -
01:51 PM on 11/17/2011
You can count on whatever 'revenes' they agree on to have the most pernicious effect on the middle and working classes possible. I dont know what it will be but here are my 3 prime suspects:
1. Mortgage interest tax deduction eliminated across the board.
2. Charitable contributions deduction cap.
3. National sales tax.
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Diskatopia
Zarathustra Sings the Blues
10:44 PM on 11/17/2011
1 and 3 would put the last nails in the coffin of our gasping-and-on life-support economy, and possibly our nation, hammering the working poor and middleclasses... so you are likely right that that is what the Republicans on the committee want to do-- "raise revenues" mostly from the middleclasses while giving the Kochs more cuts.

"Soylent greeen.. is people!"

Amazing how repeating the trick-le down canard for 30+ years has rightwingers now spouting it endlessly and seemingly thinking it works even though basic economics shows that Bush Sr. told the complete truth for once when he called it "voodoo economics".

It is voodoo(doo) economics, and is looking more and more like the eventual destroyer of this nation... Shiva Regressiva... who would have thought we would be destroyed from within, economically? Thanks rightwingers.
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bcinu2
Slow down and go Faster
12:06 PM on 11/17/2011
I wonder when an organization will take a look at the percentage of increased wealth by the Congressmen and Congresswomen over the past several years stacks up against how much others have made in the stock markets. With the small amount of press recently being bandied about with respect to the Congress persons involved with insider trading, will people be digging to get at the truth? How much corruption has been going on for years within the elite circle of roughly 560 people. How much of the insider trading alleged by a variety of news organizations is really accurate. How much have their families wealth is owed to insider trading. A comparison of the Congressional rise in wealth as opposed to the rest of the nations stock traders I believe will demonstrate that the congress peoples being off the charts compared to the rest of us....bc
10:07 AM on 11/17/2011
All this Kabuki theatre and nonsense about "where to cut" and how to go BIG.....want to GO BIG and not hurt anything except a few big defense contractors?>.....Ben Cohen has a pretty telling demonstration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sOIe5Ql0v8&feature=related
11:08 AM on 11/17/2011
I would like to see the pie chart printed.

The last I knew the government was using cigarette taxes to pay for children's insurance.
03:54 PM on 11/17/2011
You and me both....sort of says it all, doesn't it....
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RLaitres
No wise person will claim to be wise.
10:07 AM on 11/17/2011
When forming a committee to study a problem and come up with recommendations, one chooses those with open minds and not closed ones. Quite obviously, the idealogues in the House and Senate did the exact opposite. Is it then any wonder that they can't get anything done and can't come up with any type of "solution" to anything. That is happening while the entire Congress and Senate are much too busy considering and implementing the Reagan era lunacy of ketchup, or tomato paste pizza, is a vegetable. What kind of children have the American people elected to represent them in the Congress. To call some of these things "keystone cop antics" is to understate the ridiculousness of the situation.
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humanbeing-rick
Born in the USA 1947
09:59 AM on 11/17/2011
I think they should just print off more of their monopoly money and distribute it directly to small businesses and entrepreneurs to build local businesses and jobs with, and buy off the bad mortgages at a discount from the untrustworthy banks that we bailed out.
This would be the quick fix America needs now.
We need bold action, not nibbling at the edges.
We need people of vision to drive our solutions now.
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DANIELISTICALL
HISTORY IS BUT A FABLE AGREED UPON,,NAPOLEON
09:48 AM on 11/17/2011
9/17/11 WASHINGTON House Speaker John Boehner said Thursday he would
oppose tax increases to reduce the deficit. Boehner has urged Congress'
deficit "supercommittee" to lay the groundwork for a broad overhaul of
the U.S. tax code.
The panel has almost unlimited authority to recommend changes in
federal spending and taxes and is working against a deadline of Nov. 23.
09:46 AM on 11/17/2011
Bob" Livingston Jr. is a Washington, D.C.-based lobbyist and a former Republican U.S. Representative from Louisiana. He was on TV this morning talking about how he and Newt cut programs when Clinton was president.

I wonder who he lobbies for and does he wonder why he is a former congressman?

The Super Congress was created so the rest of our elected could escape dealing with it. That has to be illegal.
llwlknsn
Adequate words fail me.
09:42 AM on 11/17/2011
Bush Tax cut entitlements 1.2 Trillion dollars a year in lost revenue. Income taxes collected from individual taxpayers 1.1 Trillion a year. Do the math.
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DANIELISTICALL
HISTORY IS BUT A FABLE AGREED UPON,,NAPOLEON
09:40 AM on 11/17/2011
If you do not support SOCIAL SERVICES you get no SOCIAL SERVICES,,, when you run your car into a litghtpole and it catches fire,,there will be no FIREMAN to put your car out,, no AMBULANCE will come to rescue you and no POLICE will be there to help you,,,, MAYBE THEN you will realize how bad a idea it is to so call STARVE THE BEAST,,, because it is not really a beast at all and you have been CONNED by big business
10:01 AM on 11/17/2011
You are talking about mostly local services. You don't think agencies like the ATF and DEA aren't beasts? these clowns have nothing better to do than sell guns to the drug cartels?
BaliHai84
Coming out of the dark .
11:24 AM on 11/17/2011
Firemen, policemen, etc. are funded at the state level. So your argument that we need to continue federal spending at 4 x what Bush spend does not hold water.
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Diskatopia
Zarathustra Sings the Blues
10:55 PM on 11/17/2011
"federal spending at 4 x what Bush spend "

That statement is absolutely false. You should go look up the data and stop repeating such false numbers. Here is a graph to help you see that half or more of the deficit problem is crashed revenues, not just spending (and that both problems started under Bush Jr.):
http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartbook/growth-federal-spending-revenue
llwlknsn
Adequate words fail me.
09:38 AM on 11/17/2011
What part of stop borrowing from China to support Tax cut Entitlements for the rich do these people not understand? What part of cut the subsidies for second homes and boats, over gutting Social Security and Medicare, do these people not understand? What part of Constitutional Republic, not Plutarchy, do these people not understand? Why do THESE people still have jobs when the rest of us DON'T?

What do you do when YOUR Elected Representative has clearly turned on you? YOU FIRE HIM/HER!!!! The Super Congress is Unconstitutional. Period.
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DANIELISTICALL
HISTORY IS BUT A FABLE AGREED UPON,,NAPOLEON
09:36 AM on 11/17/2011
9/18/11 10:24 WASHINGTON -- Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said on Sunday that
House Republicans would oppose President Barack Obama's payroll tax
cuts for both employers and employees,He also said he opposes the
president's proposal to require millionaires to pay the same tax rate
as the middle class, known as the Buffett plan.
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DANIELISTICALL
HISTORY IS BUT A FABLE AGREED UPON,,NAPOLEON
09:35 AM on 11/17/2011
11/9/11 Grover Norquist Anti-Tax Pledge Signers Want Their Names Removed
A growing number of House lawmakers want out of an Americans For Tax Reform President Grover Norquist's pledge in which they vowed to never raise taxes.
Norquist's pledge is often blamed for the deadlock in the Congressional super committee created to reduce the deficit. All six Republicans on the committee have signed Norquist's pledge not to raise taxes.
NEVER FORGET WHAT THEY DONE
09:44 AM on 11/17/2011
This is the opportunity for Republicans to band together and push Norquist to the curb. I think he no longer has the clout to threaten incumbents with tea party primary opponents.
09:34 AM on 11/17/2011
People focusing the blame exclusively on the Right need to cross this bridge:

The Democrats are complicit in their intent to cut and have pushed for it since Obama's catfood commission. Obama proposes cuts to Medicare in exchange for wealth, doing better than ever, relinquishing their Bush tax cut.
It is a false equivilance- because cutting Medicare for an already struggling citizenry in exchange for the thriving wealthy to contribute a fair share is deception.
llwlknsn
Adequate words fail me.
09:39 AM on 11/17/2011
Yep.
09:55 AM on 11/17/2011
Any cuts should begin with defense and every other bloated federal agency. Defense could handle a 10% cut, and the other agencies could handle 5% without losing any effectiveness. It won't be good for the economy short term, but any jobs report that shows an increase in private sector jobs, and a decrease in federal government jobs would be a good thing.
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DANIELISTICALL
HISTORY IS BUT A FABLE AGREED UPON,,NAPOLEON
09:31 AM on 11/17/2011
So, republican­s are working for Grover Norquist. OK. Let him pay their wages, benefits. As taxpayers, petition the government to stop their paychecks until they rescind their agreement with Lord Grover.
Their first pledge should be to the Consitutio­n, if it is not, they are traitors to the American people and faithful only to the rich/banks­.
Its obvious, these people who sign pledges before they take their oaths of office have an agenda other than service to the American people who put them into office.