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Day After Zuccotti Raid, Few Occupy Wall Street Protesters Gathering In Park

Zuccotti Park

Posted: 11/16/11 08:12 PM ET

On Wednesday afternoon, a day and a half after the city temporarily evicted protesters from Zuccotti Park, security and media were in large supply. What was largely missing were the occupiers themselves.

"Let's face it, it's depressing to come down here and see the park naked," said Michael Fix, a New York filmmaker and core protester with a long history of activism, as he surveyed the 80 or so protesters scattered around the mostly empty space. While protesters were allowed back in the park on Tuesday, they were barred from bringing tents or sleeping bags.

An older man with a blue striped umbrella approached Fix. "Excuse me," he asked, "do you know where everyone is? There's no meetings or anything?"

Fix shrugged. "A lot of people are feeling shell shocked," he told the man. "People are sleeping." Fix, like many protesters surveyed, said he had only slept six hours since the pre-dawn raid on the park.

For both protesters and observers, questions about the near future outweigh answers right now. Without a geographic center, will people still be able to effectively organize? Without a place to sleep, will the crowd disperse? Will the occupiers retake the park or another space? And if they do not, will the loss of Zuccotti -- the birthplace of the movement -- prove to be a mortal blow or a temporary obstacle that, in the end, may strengthen the protest instead of breaking it?

On Wednesday afternoon, one thing was evident: whatever the future holds, the movement on this rainy afternoon was not in Zuccotti Park. Protesters stood in small groups talking, a few held signs. A man wearing a soaking leather jacket stood on the north side, where the information hub of the park once stood, and shouted with a hoarse voice to a group of about 20 that occupiers should not be restricted from using sound amplification -- an issue protesters have tried to work around to varying degrees of success. The crowd drifted away.

"People are warn out," Fix said. The raid was particularly hard, he added, on people new to organizing. "If you haven't been involved in movement building before, this is a devastating blow."

Tuesday night, an estimated 1,000 protesters streamed past a heavy police presence and through one of the two gaps in the metal barricades that now encircle the park to hold one of the largest General Assemblies -- the occupy movement's evening meeting -- yet. The discussion was forward looking: the future of Occupy Wall Street, sleeping arrangements, plans for the two-month anniversary day of action planned for Thursday.

Many occupiers said that Wednesday's diminished public presence was the calm between two storms. But many also acknowledged that beyond Thursday's rally, the future remains unclear.

"Tomorrow is a huge day, so everyone is saving energy," said protester Max Bean, 29. He lives in New York City, and spent the day catching up on sleep and working from home. "But tomorrow is just an action day, not the future of the movement. I think we don't know where we're headed next."

At 60 Wall Street, an open atrium that has served as a central off-site meeting place for working groups (committees focused around issues related to the movement), there was also a radically diminished Occupy Wall Street presence. Before the raid, dozens of occupiers met daily around circular tables, amid potted plants to discuss everything from security issues in the park to alternative currencies. But on Wednesday around noon, only one table was devoted to the occupation.

Eight members of the mobile occupation working group -- one of several groups devoted to inter-occupation communication and outreach -- met to discuss a long-planned road trip from New York City to Florida, with 11 stops at occupations along the way.

The night of the raid, Charlie Gonzales, 31, had just finished and submitted his new proposal for the month-long trip. The mobile occupiers had not yet had time to read it. As protesters trickled into the space, they approached the group, hoping for more information about what was going on.

"When you sit here, you become an information booth," Gonzales said. "But we don't know where anyone is. If you find out, let us know."

Now that Zuccotti Park has been cleared, "there's a big push for inter-occupation communication," said Kelly Fragale, a member of the group.

Whether they'll be able to get funding approved by the General Assembly as previously planned remains unclear. But members of the group did not seem worried.

"Even if we just went tomorrow without any funding, without the GA's vote, we'd still be able to get a lot done," said Gonazales, an MIT trained mechanical engineer and owner of the trip bus, which runs on vegetable oil. "This isn't the end, it's really just the beginning."

Many expert observers agree that, despite Wednesday's weak showing, the movement is not grinding to a halt after Tuesday's raid.

"This thing has not played itself out by a long stretch," said Jeff Goodwin, a sociology professor at NYU who specializes in social movements and has been involved in a variety of Occupy Wall Street working groups and endeavors. Thursday's planned day of action, Goodwin said, will be one good test. Whether the protesters will find a new space to camp out in will be another.

"Movements that have accomplished something certainly have shown a capacity to bounce back from repression far worse than this and setbacks far far worse than what we've seen," Goodwin said. "There will come a point when some impatience starts to creep in, but that moment is not now. This has got a long life a head of it."

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On Wednesday afternoon, a day and a half after the city temporarily evicted protesters from Zuccotti Park, security and media were in large supply. What was largely missing were the occupiers themselv...
On Wednesday afternoon, a day and a half after the city temporarily evicted protesters from Zuccotti Park, security and media were in large supply. What was largely missing were the occupiers themselv...
 
 
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jgb1865
03:10 PM on 11/17/2011
So long...see ya.
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BeautifulOnDaOutside
I ♥ Huffington Post
01:35 PM on 11/17/2011
I was surprised to see what a beautiful park it is after all the tents and other crap was cleared off.
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liberalOrgonian
01:29 PM on 11/17/2011
Bet those cops can't wait to crack some more skulls.
They are frothing at the mouth to hurt some more old ladies.
And randomly pepper spray innocent citizens.

Time to do some citizen arrests of these brutal police bullies and the 1% they
represent before someone is killed.
01:38 PM on 11/18/2011
Old lady should have been home knitting rather than hanging out with drug abusing, raping, filthy scum. She should know better at her age.
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Dave Price
We need to reverse this Fascist Corporatism
01:19 PM on 11/17/2011
We need to pick some candidates that represent our concerns. I see our two biggest concerns being the unseating of Democracy and installation of a Fascist Corporatism. 2nd major problem is the amount of money being allowed into politics making running the country take a back seat to campaign donation gathering. I found a very nice statement on these two issues.

http://www.democrats.org/issues/fair_elections Democrats trying to stop the Fascist Corporatism and Return us to Democracy!
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liberalOrgonian
01:18 PM on 11/17/2011
I suggest, OWS occupy all of Manhattan.
Spread out and infiltrate EVERYWHERE.

Occupy Bloombergs office!
He needs a Citizens arrest for disregarding the constitution and destroying BOOKS!
WTH does he have against BOOKS!!!!
He is our very own "rosewood".

Be a man bloomberg and resign!
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liberalOrgonian
01:12 PM on 11/17/2011
After watching the brutality from the police, I am absolutely disgusted.
These are OUR PEOPLE, our CHILDREN, OUR SISTERS,BROTHERS, MOMS & DADS.
Watching police pushing and beating and generally show disrespect for humans has created a state where police are violent tyrants and abuse of power runs wild.
I had no idea the police where so willing to be bullies for the 1%.
Mr. 1% bloomberg has his head up his a.ss. acting as a typical 1% (above the law) control freak.
Time to take police names and put them to print.
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Jeanette Schotl
12:31 PM on 11/17/2011
People in America have the right to protest. It's a hard thing to define,as to how long to let an area be a site for the OWS. They are right about their need to make a change. I think the $$ corruption will not allow it to change America's course very easily, the rot has been in the system for way too long
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Jeanette Schotl
12:21 PM on 11/17/2011
It's going to be difficult to change the corrupt culture in congress. Reminds me of when the bishops, had total power behind kings and had massed huge amounts of money, gold, treasures. They were able to manipulate the nation.
11:39 AM on 11/17/2011
In this day of flash mobs, Occupy Wall Street doesn't need a physical location.
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11:18 AM on 11/17/2011
It looks like even the die hard protesters aren't all that interested in their cause. Or could it be that see that their movement has been a complete failuer?
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June25
10:04 AM on 11/17/2011
Don't you just want to hand out a bunch of clown outfits to these lost souls and film a silent film honeoring the great Euopean Existential movies.
01:39 PM on 11/18/2011
Haha!
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June25
09:48 AM on 11/17/2011
So something seems missing from Zuccotti Park.Let me walk my dog there and I will be able to rectify that .
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Captain Archer
Resistance is Futile
09:47 AM on 11/17/2011
Obama shut them down and they'll still vote for him.

Priceless!
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mikala
09:58 AM on 11/17/2011
What is priceless is moronic statements like this which try to blame the President. If people vote for Obama it is because the alternative is unthinkable.
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Captain Archer
Resistance is Futile
10:12 AM on 11/17/2011
Obama and his corporate interests have outsourced more that 500,000 jobs to China. His czar in charge of jobs is also the CEO of GE. GE has already sent over 30,000 to China and plans to send more. GE is one of over 30 corporations in his pocket.

How do you like them apples?

Anybody but Obama in 2012.
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prettyfnliberal
and not a single frack was given that day.
10:17 AM on 11/17/2011
lol @ you complaining about outsourcing, but voting for mitt anyway

silly GOP
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Eric Israel Fogelgaren
09:35 AM on 11/17/2011
This movement is a mile long and an inch deep.
11:41 AM on 11/17/2011
Its a worldwide movement. Compare that to the Tea Party, which is limited to the US.
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Eric Israel Fogelgaren
01:37 PM on 11/17/2011
Worlwide only in the sense that many disparate people have grafted on to this amorphous, aimless slogan filled happening with no real specific goals. Amalgamation of self styled anarchists, socialists, armchair revolutionaries sprinkled with homeless and criminals. I just now walked back to my office. City hall park is closed and I walked through the protesters who were heading for Police Plaza. What a congregation of crazies.
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Jeanette Schotl
12:24 PM on 11/17/2011
Time to pull over and put some more air in your head
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Eric Israel Fogelgaren
01:43 PM on 11/17/2011
I don't know where you are but I just now was in the midst of the, you should excuse the expression, demonstration. I am sure the mental ward in Bellevue isn't all that different. I have no griope with anyone who is dissatisfied with our political and financial institutions nor would I be in favor of abridging anyone's right to protest, but these people are, by and large, infringing on the rights of those here downtown far in excess of what the first amendment requires.
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Captain Archer
Resistance is Futile
09:25 AM on 11/17/2011
Their leader has been caught in Pennsylvania. Sorry kids time to go home.