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POLL: Tea Party, Occupy Movements Fail to Capture Americans' Hearts

Tea Party Occupy Poll

First Posted: 11/18/2011 12:38 pm Updated: 11/18/2011 10:52 pm

By Lauren Markoe
Religion News Service

WASHINGTON (RNS) In a war between the Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street movement to capture the hearts of Americans, who wins? According to a new poll, it's a draw.

Less than a third of Americans say either movement represents their values, according to a poll released Wednesday (Nov. 16) by the Public Religion Research Institute in partnership with Religion News Service.

One thing, however, is clear: neither movement can make a strong claim to speak for Americans. Near identical majorities say neither movement represents their values -- 57 percent for the Tea Party, and 56 percent for Occupy Wall Street.

What's more, one in five Americans say each of the movements has a negative impact on society, and about four in 10 Americans see both as largely irrelevant.

"They're mirror images of each other, but the symmetry at the national level hides a very different distribution," said Robert Jones, the research firm's CEO. "Support for the Tea Party is more intensely concentrated among Republicans, but support for the OWS movement is less intense among Democrats and more evenly spread among other groups."

The poll -- designed to gauge Americans' views about economic hardship and the proper responses to it -- also revealed some striking divides and ambivalences, particularly in the way people view opportunity in America.

A significant majority (eight in 10) believes the gap between rich and poor has widened during the past 20 years, a finding that held true across generational, religious and political lines. Nearly half of those polled believe the American Dream -- the idea that if you work hard you'll get ahead -- once held true but no longer does.

And while two-thirds of Americans agree that the government should do more to reduce the gap between rich and poor, an even higher proportion (71 percent) say poor people have become too dependent on government assistance programs.

Jones said that ambivalence speaks to a long-standing conflict between two strongly held beliefs in American culture: people should pull themselves up by their own bootstraps, and the government should provide a safety net.

Overall, he said, people seem to favor raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans and reject the idea of cutting programs for the poor.

"They feel government has a responsibility not to let people sink," Jones said.

A strong majority (69 percent) says increasing taxes on people who make at least $1 million a year is an appropriate way to decrease the budget deficit.

About the same proportion reject cutting federal money for social programs that help the poor (67 percent) or cutting federal funding for religious organizations that help the poor (66 percent).

When it comes to both their feelings about inequality in America and the Tea Party and OWS movement, Americans break down along clear religious and generational lines:

  • White evangelicals are the most likely to say the Tea Party shares their values (49 percent), followed by white mainline Protestants (32 percent), Catholics (26 percent), the religiously unaffiliated (19 percent) and minority Christians (19 percent).

  • Occupy Wall Street drew the strongest support from the unaffiliated (38 percent), followed by minority Christians (34 percent), mainline Protestants (30 percent) and Catholics (29 percent).

  • Younger Americans, 18 to 29, are much more likely to say the OWS movement shares their values (34 percent) than the Tea Party (26 percent).

The poll also asked Americans whether churches and clergy are doing enough to respond to the economic crisis, and found they are evenly divided, with 46 percent saying they have not provided enough moral leadership on the country's most pressing economic problems, and 45 percent who think they have.

This near-even split is true across all major religious groups except members of minority Protestants: 64 percent say churches and clergy have failed to provide sufficient moral leadership on economic problems.

Jones said it's not surprising that members of African-American churches would feel this way given black pastors' history of taking vocal stands on civil rights and inequality.

"There's a tradition of these clergy taking a strong leadership role on major issues facing society," he said.

The PRRI/RNS Religion News Survey was based on telephone interviews with 1,002 adults between Nov. 10 and 14. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

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Robert SF
08:37 AM on 12/08/2011
And while two-thirds of Americans agree that the government should do more to reduce the gap between rich and poor, an even higher proportion (71 percent) say poor people have become too dependent on government assistance programs.
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This is because the wealthy have conditioned us to always "hate down." Whenever the ills of the country are discussed, look to those worse off than you: they are always the reason. It's always their fault.
09:14 PM on 12/02/2011
Consider the source of this poll. Seems quite biased.
01:53 AM on 11/22/2011
I support the Occupy movement 100%.
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mheister
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10:18 AM on 11/21/2011
#OWS is two months old, sprung up organically, critiques both major political parties, is leaderless in that everyone's a leader, does not have huge financial backing from billionaires, but does have the collective ire of the wealthy and Wall Street against it, as expressed in the unconstitutional police beatings and pepper-sprayings it suffers.

The Tea Party is more than three years old now, has astroturf written all over it, has clear and identifiable leaders, is funded by the Koch Brothers, is deeply involved with the Republican Party, and has yet to draw head-cracking cops decked out in full paramilitary riot gear to any of its events.

And these people at the Public Religion Research Service think it's all well and good to draw some sort of equivalency between these two things?

It's a false equivalency. It's also further evidence of the moribund system that #OWS so clearly rejects.
07:36 AM on 11/21/2011
So misleading!!!! Shame on you Huffington... for the story is a joke at hand.. You really think people believe this...... Failure Report is all this is...
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verylargehat
03:23 AM on 11/21/2011
The biggest unfortunate difference is that there are baggers in Congress, but not much representation on behalf of the 99%.
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Tarpon22
04:47 PM on 11/20/2011
The Headline and article is a LIE.
Over 70% of the Public support the Occupys.

This is a Corporate hit piece on the Movement.

I have copied this article and Headline and posted it on 2700 Occupy Facebook pages.
I will not tollerate this type of Fraudulent Propaganda without Challenging it.

OccupytheMedia
07:01 AM on 11/21/2011
Good for you!!
04:19 PM on 11/20/2011
Considering the source of the poll, I'd take the headline with two tablespoons of salt. The demographic split by religious affiliation and age really paints the more accurate picture.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/11/20/MNK41M19OC.DTL&type=newsbayarea

This article shows that whatever people say in a poll, they are showing up in support of Occupy______.
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Chris Isner
Nous sommes les sans culottes!
03:51 PM on 11/20/2011
Wait til cops kill some students. polls will go up.
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JannielB
DAR=My ancestors were Progressive.
11:29 AM on 11/20/2011
The 'Public Religion Research Institute'?
Who are they and whom did they poll?

If I and a few friends give ourselves a fancy name and take a poll, will we also get a story on HuffPost?
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Robert Breedlove
Curmudgeon of Lucidity
10:55 AM on 11/20/2011
There is an old saying that a liberal is often a conservative who's been hungry. The situation we are in was caused by the last thirty years of tax policy combined with deregulation allowing our financial/corporate industry to spin out of control with unrestrained greed. We've been here before, it was called the Great Depression. Only the TARP program(socializing loses), the Detroit loans and the woefully inadequate stimulus kept the whole economy, worldwide, from going the same route. Conservative Fiscal policy has FAILED! And the Republicans are unable to regroup and actually listen to their constituants, the Democrats too compromised by bribery(a common Congressional problem in both parties)to actually grow a spine. OWS has already succeeded in changing the conversation to be about jobs, infrastructure, poverty, the mortgage/foreclosure mess, student loans, income inequality...instead of the debt. And a country which allows a mother to receive two years in prison because she lied on a welfare application to feed her children while not one of the Banksters who stole Billions while destroying the economy is even charged is not to be seriously called a Christian nation, or religious or even decent nation.
03:28 AM on 11/20/2011
When will people realize that they elected people to congress that caused this problem? But year after year, they continue to vote these people back in, and piss and moan because they don't like the results.
03:18 AM on 11/20/2011
"...a poll released Wednesday (Nov. 16) by the Public RELIGION Research Institute in partnership with RELIGION News Service.
Does NO ONE ELSE look at the source of these polls and question their POSSIBLE bias in conducting it? (The direction of which would be rather obvious.) These people aren't "Gallup" or "Reuters," not that even these are perfect.
Since the corporate "absorption" of HuffPost, have they already forgotten to question and follow up, even in non-editorial, factual pieces?
06:06 AM on 11/20/2011
I was thinking the same thing reading it. I also think the headline is misleading, since after all, even coming from this potentially bias source, a majority of Americans think the gap between rich and poor widened too much and that the government should tax the rich without cutting programs for the poor. That sounds like supporting a major message of OWS to me.
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spyslowhands
01:47 AM on 11/20/2011
If the Tea Partiers had their way, America would eviscerate Medicare and Social Security, and give tax breaks to the rich while jacking up the middle-class.

If the Occupiers had their way, there would be higher taxes on the rich, Medicare-for-all, and major cuts in corporate welfare.

Hmmmm....which one represents the values of Americans the most and which one do mainstream Americans in all the polls side with? 75% of the country wants higher taxes on the wealthy, doesn't want Medicare touched, wants corporate influence reigned in.

Boy is America stupid. Why is this poll split? Doesn't make any sense.
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Jessica Ann Stallings
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01:07 AM on 11/20/2011
The problem with the Occupy movement is that there is nothing set in stone. For example, Occupy Eugene started out with strong local support, but quickly started losing it by alienating a lot of supporters, by opening their camp to the local homeless population (some of whom have warrants, criminal histories, and addictions), not seriously enforcing no drugs/alcohol, causing problems for local businesses and traffic, and the biggest problem: a lack of action, while attacking everyone who utters any kind of suggestion or criticism that they don't agree with, and still expecting the city to allow them to camp, against the wishes of a growing percentage of Eugene's population. They had my support right up until I sided with someone who mentioned that they smelled pot and saw a group passing a joint while walking by the camp. They told me and everyone else who voiced their concerns about drug use in the camp to just stay home if we had a problem with it.

Occupy in general? While I don't neccessarily understand the point to camping out, I *DO* agree that the banks and corporations need to be held accountable. Occupy Eugene? They've pretty much just turned into a hippy homeless camp that bitches about anything and everyone.