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Oakland Police Chief Howard Jordan's Deposition Sheds Light On His Views Of Occupy Wall Street

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Posted: 11/21/11 03:45 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- Last week, civil rights attorneys in Oakland filed a motion for a temporary restraining order and a civil suit against the Oakland Police Department, alleging officers had used excessive force against Occupy Oakland activists.

With the recent pepper spray incidents at UC Davis, Seattle and Portland, and the continued police clashes in New York City and elsewhere, civil litigation is inevitable. And the Oakland Police Department has exhibited some of the most brutal responses to Occupy activists.

At issue is the decision by the Oakland Police Department -- and its various support agencies -- to use rubber bullets, bean bag pellets and tear gas on the Occupy Oakland encampment in late October and the subsequent protest march. Their responses have produced images of a wheelchair-bound protester caught in a fog of tear gas and critical injuries to two military veterans. Interim Oakland Police Department Chief Howard Jordan has promised to investigate any allegations of excessive force. Mayor Jean Quan has vowed to monitor the investigations closely.

But is there an explanation for the Oakland cops' dramatic display of force? Did Jordan look out at that sea of activism and see anarchy? He shared such sentiments in a April 2005 deposition in which he stated that he considered anti-war groups to be anarchists.

The deposition was taken as part of an excessive force case in which the police department had fired non-lethal weapons on activists at the Oakland port in April 2003. Plaintiff attorney James Chanin asked Jordan about his views, noting that the police official had labeled three anti-war groups -- Not In Our Name, International ANSWER and Direct Action To Stop the War -- as anarchist groups in a report.

As Chanin began interrogating Jordan, it became clear that the officer had done little research on the subject.

"What led you to conclude that these groups were anarchist groups?" Chanin asked.

"From some of the stuff I saw on the Internet and watching TV," Jordan answered. "There had been a number of demonstrations in San Francisco where I'd seen those slogans portrayed on TV."

After a little back and forth, Chanin asked: "What did you see on the Internet that made you think that these groups were anarchist groups?"

Jordan answered: "Some of the things that they were saying. Stop the war, and the government slogans, some of the things that they had -- anti-government things they had spoke about doing at port, which was to shut down the port."

Chanin asked what Jordan meant by "anarchist group."

Jordan responded by stating, "To me, an anarchist is someone who is opposed to any kind of government action, someone that takes action against things being done by the government. For example, paying taxes."

Chanin followed up by asking if he noticed whether the anti-war groups called for non-violent demonstrations. Jordan admitted he did not notice.

Jordan later highlighted one of the goals of the group Direct Action to Stop the War as proof that they were anti-government. The group had wanted to "to transform our cities and towns from profits, oil and war, to resistance and life."

Jordan explained: "I think this is a statement against the government, against the government entity. That's my interpretation of it."

But there was more of Direct Action's rhetoric that set off Jordan's alarm bells. He answered that he believed the following statement was that of an anarchist group: "Uproot the system behind the war (and behind the war at home; racism, poverty, corporate globalization); help catalyze mass movements to challenge corporate and government power and create socially just, directly democratic ecological, peaceful alternatives."

"It's a statement against the government," Jordan stated. "It's something that would promote anti-government behavior."

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dbrett480
10:09 PM on 12/10/2011
For those that claimed the Oakland Police used excessive force, go to http://www2.oaklandnet.com/Government/o/OPD/a/PublicReports/OccupyOaklandPublicRecords/index.htm to see what really happened. This is the dispatch records, audio recordings, and video from the Occupy Wall Street protests.
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DMSmith
06:31 PM on 11/23/2011
This man should be in prison - with access to education while there.
He is the man behind the police actions years ago that resulted in the police in Oakland be under restrictions - which they violated with his recent actions. He should have been fired then. He sure as heck should be now - especially after this outright stupidity. He doesn't understand democracy, OR anarchy. Let alone understand his duties and WHO PAYS HIM to protect them (us).
He's an embarrassment and the law suits resulting from his stupidity will cost the city a fortune - and they should.
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teragramus
01:22 PM on 11/23/2011
warning: 'occupy' is an aggressive act, it is not non-violence, to everything there is a season

the oil companies are extremely powerful, global warming is real, the people are sheep, up against this kind of power, we cannot use the peacenik templates, we must take aggressive actions or fail
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bbrecht
"pray for the dead, fight like hell for the liv
11:27 AM on 11/23/2011
Someone should explain democracy to the officer. In fact, all police should be required to learn about our constitution, bill of rights, history of political movements, and more.
10:20 PM on 11/22/2011
ANSWER is actually a front group for the Workers World Party, which is a Marxist-Leninist group. NION has similar connections (Internatinal Action Center affiliated). The last group IS anarchist in terms of structure, but probably not all members consider themselves anarchist. For the record, the consensu model used at OWS and affiliated protests comes directly out of anarchism.
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bbrecht
"pray for the dead, fight like hell for the liv
11:26 AM on 11/23/2011
The consensus model is used by many people other than anarchists.
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rtgmath
There has got to be a better way!
02:25 PM on 11/22/2011
Interim Oakland Police Department Chief Howard Jordan's interpretation of "anarchy" is interesting.

We are being told by "authority" that any challenge to "authority" or "the law" is "anarchy" and wrong. In that case, the Founding Fathers were wrong to go to war against Britain for our independence. Also, people in a dictatorship are wrong to fight for their freedoms.

This is precisely the position led to by those who advocate law and order at any cost. Acquiescence and obedience no matter how oppressive the situation is the goal. Militarized police departments use force against unarmed and peaceful demonstrators, because obedience must be instant and mindless. Democracy is for the Rich. The poor must suck it up and just obey.

For people such as Jordan, there are no rights to petition for redress of grievances, there is no first amendment, there is no Constitution, and there are no innate civil rights. Authority is absolute. As a police officer, Jordan is sworn to "serve and protect" -- the rich only. The poor and the protestor he is sworn to oppress and beat senseless, choke with tear gas, and kill if necessary to end resistance.

Jordan and those like him will be essential components of the Police State, when it finally occurs. I have no doubt they can create a kind of "Final Solution" to the problems of the 99% if given a chance. He has the right attitude and aptitude for it.
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Kevin Rayburn
honesty in politics is a guilty plea
02:39 AM on 11/22/2011
i cannot help but think true anarchists would #1 be better armed weapon wise, #2 not be as interested in political action as much as totally halting the function of our government, #3 i also think anarchists would have also ad electric guitars along with the drums. #4 i would be totally impressed if anarchists were the ones doing this, instead of a group of know more than they know youngsters who have a good idea but lack the skills to honestly lay it out there.
05:02 PM on 11/22/2011
I'm justing using the anarchists own definition­: "the name given to a principle or theory of life and conduct under which society is conceived without government - harmony in such a society being obtained, not by submission to law, or by obedience to any authority, but by free agreements concluded between the various groups, territoria­l and profession­al, freely constitute­d for the sake of production and consumptio­n, as also for the satisfacti­on of the infinite variety of needs and aspiration­s of a civilized being."
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cabinetmaniac
"Without a struggle, there can be no progress. "
12:06 PM on 11/25/2011
Great definition.

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08:01 PM on 11/21/2011
I admire the protesters.I sure hope the Tea Party doesn't think they are speaking to them,
because most of them are the 1 % Sarah Palin they are stealing your thunder.we have more
99% than the 1 % you are.
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Kevin Rayburn
honesty in politics is a guilty plea
02:36 AM on 11/22/2011
HUH? you sound like a little spoiled child, please return once you have grown up.
05:02 AM on 11/22/2011
????
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plmyfinger
A life without knowledge is death in disguise
07:44 PM on 11/21/2011
dead on
06:51 PM on 11/21/2011
umm the term "wheelchair bound" is type ableist.

and what does this dudes opinion of anarchists have to due with the amount of force used on regular people excercising their right to protest?
06:28 PM on 11/21/2011
Oakland Police, just like most Police in every City across America love this stuff
Major Overtime Pay and an open opportunity to berate and beat the American Public.
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07:32 PM on 11/21/2011
A lot of police think they are above the law.
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BillKen
01:31 AM on 11/22/2011
They are, it's 'professional courtesy'.
Semper Fi
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Captain Archer
Resistance is Futile
05:59 PM on 11/21/2011
These criminals don't want to work.
04:26 PM on 11/22/2011
I don't blame them. Most work sucks. Work forces you to trade in your time so someone else profits. Work destroys the environment. Work allows for this false sense of the American Dream.
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cabinetmaniac
"Without a struggle, there can be no progress. "
12:07 PM on 11/25/2011
What do you mean they don't want work?

They are cops.

That's work.

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05:49 PM on 11/21/2011
The teabaggers who advocate 0 taxes and 0 government are the real anarchists. I don't see cops using excessive force to break up their protests. And some of them open carry...
06:06 PM on 11/21/2011
they' don't break the law and open-carry is legal. pretty much the defining difference between the two movements as they share similar complaints. Tea party has effectively worked through the established political system to great success I might add. OWS wants to replace it using direct action. They do not appear to be succeeding in their goals from what I've seen... But perhaps too early to tell.
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dmgoss
Sapere Aude
11:03 PM on 11/21/2011
Cute. I'd like to see how many seconds the NYPD would let ANYONE at a protest be allowed an open carry, and just what their response would be to such a show of "patriotism". The difference might be a case of putting your money where your mouth is. There shouldn't be any problem with such people so exercising their constitutional rights, right?

Sounds like a case of selective bravery. OWS risks regular arrest and the threat of bodily harm from the police to exercise a legal right. Show us your own dedication to your personal beliefs by bringing your favorite firearm to a political rally in NYC. Should be interesting.
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bptrav11
Just hoping common sense wins out in the end!
07:14 AM on 11/22/2011
They also have the funds at their disposal to get permits, porta potties and all the costumes, banners, corporate jets and money they need from the Koch brothers, Karl Rove and the right wing wealthy. They are not a movement but a well paid section of the Republican party and corporations that want to continue on with the destruction of the middle class. Welcome to the western hemisphere combination christian Iran and Russia!
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07:45 PM on 11/21/2011
You said what I was going to say. F&F
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Fredday
Nyak Nyak Nyak
05:40 PM on 11/21/2011
"Jordan responded by stating, "To me, an anarchist is someone who is opposed to any kind of government action, someone that takes action against things being done by the government. For example, paying taxes."

Well, I can only presume he thinks Republicans are anarchists. lol
06:06 PM on 11/21/2011
What's the difference between a libertarian and anarchist? Suit and tie...
04:44 PM on 11/22/2011
A LIBERTARIAN is an Anarchist who wants Police Protection from his Slaves.
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bldr1bob
05:06 PM on 11/21/2011
So a 2005 deposition about an event in 2003 is relevant? This has nothing to do with something that happened in 2011. Nice try HP..........maybe he kicked a dog in 1975, maybe that's why they treat doggies badly too.........
tavote08
IN IT TO WIN IT... 1 4 ALL N ALL 4 1
01:00 AM on 11/22/2011
Guess ur not a lawyer huh???