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China Could Post First Trade Deficit In Two Decades In 2012 As Demand Slumps In Europe, U.S.

China Trade Deficit

First Posted: 11/22/11 08:40 AM ET Updated: 11/22/11 08:41 AM ET

TAIPEI (Roger Tung) - China's trade balance faces the risk of sliding into a deficit for the first time in two decades in 2012 as export demand in Europeand the United States slumps, an academic adviser to the central bank said on Tuesday.

China needs a "very proactive" fiscal policy to spur domestic demand next year amid weakness in Western economies, Xia Bin told Reuters in an interview late on Monday during a visit to Taipei to promote his new book.

But he also said that the world's No.2 economy will not loosen monetary policy, which he said now has "about the right tone."

"The U.S. economy won't be good next year and Europe will be worse, meaning weak external demand for China. We can't rule out the possibility of a trade deficit," Xia said.

"To increase domestic demand, fiscal policy must be very proactive, reform of the tax system should be speeded up and wages raised to stimulate consumption," he added. He did not give a forecast for any deficit.

Xia, head of the financial research institute at cabinet think tank Development Research Center, sits on the 15-member monetary policy committee of the central bank but does not have real influence on key decisions on interest rates or China's yuan currency.

The People's Bank of China has loosened credit conditions recently to help small firms and promised to "fine-tune" policy if needed to support economic growth, which slowed in the third quarter to 9.1 percent, its weakest in more than two years.

But, barring a sudden and sharp blow to the economy, more aggressive policy easing such as a cut in banks' reserve ratios or interest rates is seen as months away.

Meanwhile, the cash-rich government is flexing its muscles by offering tax cuts to companies.

SLOWER YUAN RISE

Despite faltering Western demand, China's economy is still seen as on track to grow over 9 percent this year.

Xia said China expects to maintain economic growth at 8 percent to 9 percent in 2012 and sees further inflationary pressures, though Beijing will look to keep price rises to 2 percent to 3 percent next year.

Annual inflation hit a three-year high of 6.5 percent in July. Though it has eased in recent months, it remains elevated at 5.5 percent.

China's commerce ministry warned last week that the outlook for exports could be grim for the rest of this year and the early part of next, as Europestruggles to contain its debt crisis and the United States seeks to spur its fragile recovery.

China's imports surged 28.7 percent in October while exports grew at 15.9 percent, their slowest rate in months, suggesting Beijing's efforts to tilt the economy toward domestic demand may be offsetting the external weakness that has dragged on economic growth this year. That capped October's trade surplus at $17 billion.

The government expects the full-year trade surplus to narrow to around $150 billion in 2011 from last year's $183 billion, the third straight year of decline.

Despite the global gloom, Xia's view of a possible trade deficit remains a minority one.

Last month, Wei Jianguo, a former vice commerce minister and secretary general of think-tank the China Center for International Economic Exchanges, also raised the possibility [ID:nL3E7LI00G].

However, most economists say that while there is little doubt the trade surplus will continue to narrow, it might take a few more years for China to see a full-year trade deficit, unless exports collapse.

Also, there may be limited room for the government to spur domestic demand as economic growth slows.

The massive trade surplus has long been a source of friction with the United States and China's other major trading partners, many of whom complain that Beijing keeps its yuan currency undervalued to boost exports.

But U.S. trade and employment problems would not be solved by even a major appreciation of China's yuan versus the dollar, Chinese President Hu Jintao was quoted as saying last week.

The yuan has gained about 40 percent in real effective exchange terms since Beijing abandoned its peg to the U.S. dollar in 2005, and has rallied almost four percent against the dollar in nominal terms this year.

On the growing internationalization of China's yuan currency, Xia said that by 2020 the yuan will make up about 3 percent to 5 percent of the world's reserve currencies. But he saw the process only happening slowly.

(Additional reporting by Kevin Yao in BEIJING; Writing by Jonathan Standing; Editing by Jacqueline Wong & Kim Coghill)

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TAIPEI (Roger Tung) - China's trade balance faces the risk of sliding into a deficit for the first time in two decades in 2012 as export demand in Europeand the United States slumps, an academic a...
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Jannsmoor
11:34 PM on 11/23/2011
I was worried China was abandoning right wing delusional economic theory when I read they are raising wages in order to increase demand. But then - WHEW- I read they are lowering taxes on corporations. It has worked so well in the US. We're awash in jobs thanks to the Bush tax cuts for the richest few and corporate loopholes.
06:28 PM on 11/23/2011
Meanwhile, America's trade deficit has been significantly reduced since Barack Obama took the presidency, after it had historically skyrocketed in the previous eight years. Only, that's something nobody mentions ever, because if we mentioned it, we would have to admit that Obama is doing a good job. And that's something that should never be said aloud.
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LeftCoastEng
Obsessed with failed trade
04:29 PM on 11/23/2011
"But U.S. trade and employment problems would not be solved by even a major appreciation of China's yuan versus the dollar, Chinese President Hu Jintao was quoted as saying last week."

Why was no alternative view presented in the article? Perhaps a quote from the US government about how the Yuan is still way under valued and how that does have a dramatic negative effect on the US economy.
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09:02 AM on 11/23/2011
If demand in the US and Europe drops then China's economy has to follow in due course.
04:28 PM on 11/22/2011
It will be a rude awakening when the Chinese will have to buy their own crap.
wsdave
Abusive or Insulting? I won't be responding.
05:36 PM on 11/23/2011
They already do: They can't afford anything better.
06:36 PM on 11/23/2011
80% of the Chinese people cannot afford to even buy their own cheap crap, let alone imported products. That should tell you the state of things there.

(80% of Chinese, that's like 1.2 to 1.3 billion of people. Just sayin'.)
08:59 PM on 11/28/2011
So what? We've become the #1 market for almost everything now with only 20% of us buying stuff. Just imagine where we'll be in another 10, 20 years.
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NickTAZ
The blue = Job Growth
04:27 PM on 11/22/2011
"The People's Bank of China has loosened credit conditions recently to help small firms....more aggressive policy easing such as a cut in banks' reserve ratios or interest rates is seen as months away."

That is the most important part of this story. What did the US face in the late 80's and 90's? A lack of available credit. The reaction-- Dems pushed for home loans for poorer Americans (ballooning the amount of credit on the market) and Repubs pushed for deregulation and cuts to reserve ratios (also ballooning the amount of credit on the market). In the short term, this grew our economy greatly, but the problem soon returned about 5 years ago. Without any new avenues to expand credit again, our bubble burst plunging us into the recession.

Credit bubbles are the biggest threat modern economies face, and when China's bubble goes, look out!
02:51 PM on 11/22/2011
Geez. How will they buy our debt?
Karma2U
Blessed are the Peacemakers
02:26 PM on 11/22/2011
People forget that King Midas starved to death because of his greed.
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MikeyJaii
Socialism.
12:11 PM on 11/22/2011
I'm starting to see a little "Made in U.S." Just a tiny bit, that a little is better than nothing.
06:34 PM on 11/23/2011
I do too. I also know of more and more people who purposefully buy "Made in the USA" only or else, never buy "Made in China" products.
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piceaglauca
The picture says it all....
11:15 AM on 11/22/2011
Obama's "buy America " program must be working. Welcome back Walmart.
01:18 PM on 11/22/2011
Obama fully supports offshoring, H-1B work visas, and free trade with communist dictators. All that is happening is that the middle class is shrinking and working class folks have less money to spend. And its only getting worse because Obama and the Democrats kept in place all the same wage suppression regulations we have had since Clinton. Read up on H-1B if you don't understand what I am talking about.
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02:13 PM on 11/22/2011
You wouldnt want to try and run the country on people educated in the US education system.
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NickTAZ
The blue = Job Growth
04:34 PM on 11/22/2011
If you get caught up in partisan bickering you're always going to miss the truth. It's not just Obama and his team that support "globalization," it's the wealthy of both parties. The republican line is "free market" and the democrat line is "global equality," but both side support this practice. It is only the poor and middle class in both parties that truly support restricted trade, but the poor are never in charge.

If you want more isolationism and nationalism (which would create more American jobs in the short run, but may make us less globally competitive), vote for a middle-class candidate (good luck finding one).
10:10 AM on 11/22/2011
I wish we were a fiscally responsible country that was able to feed off of a larger, short sighted economy for 2 decades. . . must be nice!!!
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Mister Grumpy
An Angry American
10:07 AM on 11/22/2011
Too bad many of our former manufacturing plants have been abandoned and turned into rat infested dilapidated eyesores. By the time they could be refurbished, it will be too late.
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piceaglauca
The picture says it all....
11:16 AM on 11/22/2011
Thank Walmart and any other company who have moved their operations off shore.
NoBlueDogs
FIGHT Offshoring!!!
02:36 PM on 11/22/2011
Why aren't there mass protests against outsourcing? There's a lot of pro-outsourcing people around but ten TIMES as many people who oppose foreign outsourcing. We should be rallying and protesting and showing these pro-outsourcing people who the real majority is in America. Throw our weight around. Bully them out of the political scene!
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NickTAZ
The blue = Job Growth
04:40 PM on 11/22/2011
Both parties support offshoring because both parties are run by rich people. As a rule, rich people on both sides support offshoring because it allows American companies to stay competitive in a world that is increasingly globalized. This is why even democrats like Obama and Clinton support our "free trade" agreements-- they don't necessarily like it, but they believe that we must stay "globally competitive."

When Bush I and Clinton uttered the words "new world order," they weren't referring to some nefarious conspiracy theory to take over the world-- they were talking about this. The global market isn't going away and it's forcing us to change the way we play the game.
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frank day
Republican = FAIL
10:06 AM on 11/22/2011
That will pop the world's largest real estate bubble.
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01:44 PM on 11/22/2011
They are slowing letting air out of the bubbles, thanks to Japan's lesson.
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NickTAZ
The blue = Job Growth
04:43 PM on 11/22/2011
Not their credit bubble-- by lowering their reserve ratio they will be massively expanding their credit market. Many people don't understand that our "mortgage bubble" is simply another term for "credit bubble,"-- what is a mortgage but credit?
06:32 PM on 11/23/2011
Yup. That's coming too.
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becky bradshaw
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth
09:59 AM on 11/22/2011
Domestic demand does not help China's balance of payments. China is caught in a vicious loop. As their economy grew, their demand for oil and other natural resources also grew, and at a faster rate. This explains China's activity in the South China Sea (near Singapore). There is oil there.

Japan attacked Pearl Harbor in a quest to control the same region. China is now in a battle for natural resources with their regional competitor, India.

"Inevitably, there will be a fierce contest for raw materials, mainly in Asia. We see this already happening in Burma, in parts of Central Asia, Africa and elsewhere. This is only going to become fiercer. It's also a myth that somehow the two economies, with their different strengths, will be able to complement each other in the long term. India has to turn to manufacturing and China is not going to give up suddenly its own industries."

Reference: "The Coming China-India Conflict: Is War Inevitable?"
Ishaan Tharoor, Time Magazine, Mar. 23, 2010, http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1974028,00.html
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Trustfunded1
09:44 AM on 11/22/2011
China has more room for internal demand and growth than America.
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frank day
Republican = FAIL
10:06 AM on 11/22/2011
And how will they pay for the necessary imports?
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piceaglauca
The picture says it all....
11:17 AM on 11/22/2011
Minimum wage.
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01:45 PM on 11/22/2011
US and European luxury goods are doing hugely well in China.
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NickTAZ
The blue = Job Growth
04:45 PM on 11/22/2011
Absolutely right! They are going to expand credit to all those poor souls who have never had the opportunity to take out any credit. This will spur their growth for quite some time, however... I wouldn't want to be around when their credit bubble bursts. It will make ours look like a picnic. The bigger they are the harder they fall.