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Jamey Rodemeyer Suicide: No Charges For Death Of Bullied Gay Teen, Police Say

Jamey Rodemeyer

CAROLYN THOMPSON   11/22/11 05:49 PM ET   AP

AMHERST, N.Y. — Police investigating the suicide of a bullied gay teenager said Tuesday that offensive comments he endured online and at school couldn't be considered criminal and that no charges would be filed.

Amherst investigators last month sent 14-year-old Jamey Rodemeyer's computer and cellphone to a forensics lab to help determine whether anyone should be prosecuted for the bullying he often talked about before taking his life Sept. 18. They also interviewed Jamey's family, friends and peers, uncovering five bullying episodes at Williamsville North High School, where he'd just begun his freshman year, Chief John Askey said.

"He was exposed to stresses in every facet of his life that were beyond what should be experienced by a 14-year-old boy," Askey told reporters during a news conference at police headquarters.

But neither the in-school bullying episodes, one of which involved pushing and an anti-gay remark, nor "insensitive and inappropriate" online comments were found to be prosecutable, Askey said, in part because the victim is dead and unable to help prove harassment or other charges that might have been filed.

"I'm not satisfied, to be honest," said Askey, adding that officers had devoted hundreds of hours to the investigation. "I would like to have seen something we could have done from a prosecution standpoint."

Jamey's father, Timothy Rodemeyer, had a similar response.

"We're not satisfied, but we somewhat expected this outcome," he told The Associated Press by phone after the press conference. "That's why we've taken on a mission trying to get laws passed that will make people accountable."

The investigation determined that three students had targeted Jamey in high school, one of whom hired a lawyer after Jamey's death. Those students weren't the ones commenting inappropriately in online forums, the investigation determined.

Anonymous posts on a Formspring account Jamey opened said "Kill your self!!!! You have nothing left!" and "Go kill yourself, you're worthless, ugly and don't have a point to live."

While Jamey had told his parents the taunting he'd endured in middle school had not carried over to high school, he posted online notes ruminating on suicide, bullying, homophobia and pop singer Lady Gaga.

"People would be like `faggot, fag,' and they'd taunt me in the hallways and I felt like I could never escape it," he said in a YouTube video posted in May as part of columnist Dan Savage's "It Gets Better" project, which seeks to give voices and hope to bullied gay and lesbian teenagers.

After he hanged himself outside his home in suburban Buffalo, activists, journalists and Gaga herself seized on the suicide, decrying the loss of another promising life to bullying.

Even though no criminal charges will be filed, Askey said there have been other consequences.

"The fact that it can't be prosecuted shouldn't be the measuring stick here. I think people know that it's inappropriate, know that it's unacceptable. ... I think a message has been sent," Askey said. The bullies' "friends know who they are and their peers know who they are and they know that it's completely unacceptable in the eyes of this community, this police department and their peers."

Jamey's death followed other prominent teenage deaths linked to bullying or intimidation – notably Phoebe Prince, an Irish immigrant in Massachusetts taunted by classmates after she dated a popular boy, and Tyler Clementi, a Rutgers University freshman whose roommate is accused of spying on his same-sex encounter via webcam.

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10:43 AM on 11/30/2011
I was going to reply directly to the person who wrote that no-one cares about my mythological book or my opinions but I must have flushed the delete file a little too soon. My comment about being a religious person who doesn't agree with certain people's choices in life was directed at people who are unable to disagree without being nasty about it and not at the people who I may or may not agree with. I might disagree with these choices but that doesn't stop me being friends with them or treating them with respect and valuing them as fellow human beings. We all make judgements as to a person's worth far too quickly and lose out on uncovering "diamonds in the rough". I have such a friend, we shouldn't be friends at all since we have very little in common. She is gay, I am straight, she is Israeli, I am technically Palestinian. She is somewhat Jewish, I am Muslim. I am soft spoken, she is outspoken. We disagree on practically everything and yet I find her an altogether valuable friend and I hope she feels that way too. You don't have to like everything about someone to treat them well and be treated well!
06:04 PM on 12/01/2011
Nothing about this is a choice. You'd think that a kid committing suicide because he can't change the way he is would be proof enough.
wacado
Responding to the world as I see it. . .
11:34 PM on 11/26/2011
A poet once wrote:
Sticks and stone are hard on bones
Aimed with angry art.
Words can sting like anything
But silence stills the heart.

Take it anyway you want. No one can make a person do anything he wasn't thinking himself. Although I am sad he is dead, others words should not have had so much power in his life. His parents should have loved him to death and insured him that their love and approval was all he really needs.
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02:12 AM on 11/28/2011
You obviously don't remember being a teenager.

Couple of things: The fault lies with the bullies and those who refused to stop them.

ANd the teenage brain is very different from the adult brain. An adult can understand that things will not be like this forever, that he does have worth and is loved even though some people say otherwise. Teen brains do not process information in the same way and these kids do not have the maturity to deal with constant harassment. Nor should they have to.
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John Hazelton Smith
Don't get caught...
08:39 AM on 11/28/2011
Well said, WACADO. too many people are putting the blame on the bullies because a lot of people blame others for problems in this country, go figure. I agree with you though. Not a lot of people seem to take this point either.
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Jimm Milenski
06:04 PM on 11/26/2011
As a kid who WAS bullied by thugs and tuffs in school, I would have gladly pulled the switch that was connected to the chair in which they would fry. But back then there were no sanctions against bullies because most of them had family names of the officials in town. Accordingly, the precious dears could not possibly be wayward unless an evil monster like me provoked them to be that way.
02:36 AM on 11/26/2011
I think verbal assault should be prosecuted in the same way that physical assault is. Both are harmful and can lead to a death!
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dbrett480
12:02 AM on 11/26/2011
While it may be disappointing to most, the police chief is absolutely correct in stating that none of the comments rose to a prosecutable level.
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duhtruth
11:26 AM on 11/28/2011
Yes. However, many school officials and teachers know about this stuff and let it go on because they don't want the hassle of getting involved. A parent or teen trying to fight the administration are up against great odds. The parents of bullies, if they are perceptive and aware of their darling's behavior, just let it go because their kids are not the object of bullies. The bullies need a good a-** woopin' by someone. Possibly schools should hire groups to accomplish this, if they are not up to the task. I am tired of schools saying it occurred off school property and we can do nothing about it. It continues on school property every day in full sight of the administration and teachers.
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dbrett480
12:48 AM on 11/30/2011
Then the school district should be held responsible for violating one's civil rights.
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10:53 AM on 11/25/2011
Jaimie wasn't bullied because he was gay. He was bullied because he didn't conform to his gender role as required. Ha was seen as effeminate. Many kids have been bullied who are too young to have a sexuality. And most make no mention of any sexuality that they have. This makes no difference to the bullies. They don't care about real sexuality. They care what someone looks like.

What these bullies really care about is kids who do not conform to prescribed gender role behavior. It could just be how they speak or walk. Nothing they can even control. In truth our society has a neurotic terror about gender role non conformity. It's a phobia that runs through all of society. A male being feminine or a female being masculine is seen as the most horrible thing any one can be and it terrifies people. It is the topic of half the jokes on TV, as a topic that is so terrifying and taboo that all you can do is laugh nervously about it.

Homophobia will not go away until gender role terror and neurosis goes away. When no one cares, or they even admire, feminine men and masculine women. Maybe their fear is that people WILL admire feminine men and masculine women and that they will then not look so good.
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05:05 PM on 11/25/2011
Too true.... I really have a dislike for people who are into their gender roles more than they are into who they are on the inside. Macho men and super prissy women get no attention from me, at least not the good kind!
04:42 AM on 11/25/2011
Bullying should be denounced. Kids involved in such taunts should be suspended from school for a short period of time in an effort to curb this abnormal behavior. It can cause great harm and even lead to the death of individuals as seen in this case. It is a pity that the bullies in this case cannot be prosecuted.
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Jtt
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11:46 PM on 11/24/2011
I appreciate the additional worlds by Police Chief John Askey. That was helpful and shouldn't be overlooked.
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lambdin1
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11:40 PM on 11/24/2011
There may be now crime to be charged, but all those at Williamsville North High School should hang their heads in shame!
chemistrydoc
There are some things so serious you have to laugh
11:34 PM on 11/24/2011
I still believe that the behavior of most of these bullies is known (and to some extent denied) by their parents. Thus, one of the most effective means of motivating parents to take more control and intervene more in this cycle is for the parents of such a child as Jamey to carry out wrongful death civil suits. There are probably a number of gay and sympathetic attorneys who would jump at the chance to do this pro bono.
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TotalTranquility
Shine On You Crazy Diamond.
10:16 PM on 11/24/2011
This is the first English translation of this...

1 Corinthian­s 6:9
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

A lot have bastardized some of this in most versions of the Bible.

They took the effeminate and changed it to men with men, and or homosexuals. When back then is was a word used in reference to decadents, men that would rather dress up and go to a party then work or fight. When they said someone was effeminate, they were talking about people that are weak, soft, and at times the wealthy were called it.

Abusers of themselves with mankind has also been bastardized in some versions to mean Homosexuality, when it is in reference to male temple or shrine prostitutes.

Please try working on correcting those problems, and then we can talk.
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TotalTranquility
Shine On You Crazy Diamond.
10:47 PM on 11/24/2011
Oops, I meant to send this to ( mensakid )
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07:40 AM on 11/25/2011
I don't really care either way. We aren't living in a theocracy, and some people just need to get over that fact.
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TotalTranquility
Shine On You Crazy Diamond.
01:45 AM on 11/26/2011
I do care, I am a Homosexual. I don't like that there have been incorrect changes in the Bible to condemn me and other Homosexuals. I know a lot of Christians have done that for a long time through ignorance, but this has only made it worse.
08:56 PM on 11/24/2011
This is unacceptable. Saying that "there will be other consequences" is utter crap, clearly since those who bullied Jamey have gotten away with murder.

The outcry from this may affect those bullies lives for a time, but the fact that they haven't been punished will just reinforce to them that they can continue to act and say the most disgusting and hurtful things possible, no matter what the consequences, and now they know they can get away with it.

An anti-bullying law with severe punishment and consequences should already be passing through Congress - it should have been made the second these kids got away with murder. It's not good enough, USA, to say that its disappointing or unacceptable. It's time to do something about it.
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02:17 AM on 11/28/2011
f and f

"But neither the in-school bullying episodes, one of which involved pushing and an anti-gay remark, nor "insensitive and inappropriate" online comments were found to be prosecutable, Askey said, in part because the victim is dead and unable to help prove harassment or other charges that might have been filed."

It seems that some students may get the idea that the authorities here are saying that if kids are going to bully another kid, they'd better bully him to the point of suicide so he can't be a witness against them.

We have to have strict anti-bullying laws in schools and enforce them.
08:38 PM on 11/24/2011
Bullies are -- quite simply -- cowards.
05:04 PM on 11/24/2011
"Unable to prove harassment?!" The fact that he is dead should be proof enough! It's not his fault, nor the bullies fault that tragedies like this keep happening to GLBQT teens as well as striaght teens. It's the fact that societal norms are dictating that sameness is cool and good and that different is bad and lame.
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02:18 AM on 11/28/2011
Well, actually, it IS the fault of the bullies, their parents who didn't teach them any better, and anyone who saw the bullying and did nothing to stop it.
10:00 PM on 11/28/2011
The bully part isn't always true; bullies can become bullies from being bullied themselves. I know this is true from personal experience. I had a bully who bullied me because they were bullied by someone else. And, a bullied-bully is only one reason for bullying. It can also come from popular cliques too as the old "populars vs outcast" deal, because popular kids are basically making fun of anyone who is different. Where do they get that from? Societal norms that glamorize being skinny, perfect, attractive, and of course, normal.
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02:02 PM on 11/24/2011
If man A authorizes another man B to kill a person. Man A can be arrested for the murder and/or conspiracy to murder as seen in the 1971 conviction of Manson, Charles Miles. (Sentence changed in California v. Anderson). Since murder is against the state and not the victim, if the bullies(Man A) told him(Man B) to kill himself, regardless of who carried out the murder, wouldn't this subject the bullies to a trial. The bullies being the conspirators.
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07:10 PM on 11/24/2011
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AstorsCatfish
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11:49 PM on 11/24/2011
I like your line of thought. But, in a case like this it might be very problematic to determine whose bullying pushed him over the edge or play how big a role in the eventual suicide. If it was just one guy bullying him, not so hard. Then you'd have to be able to show that without this bullying he would not have killed himself.
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Elle Shepard
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05:30 PM on 11/25/2011
Actually this isn't that hard. Just ask yourself one question...if he had not been bullied in any shape form or fashion BY ANYONE- if he'd been allowed to go about his life at school and in public as other young people, would he be dead today?