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NFLX: Netflix Hits 20-Month Low As Debt Worries Mount

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MICHAEL LIEDTKE   11/22/11 06:23 PM ET   AP

SAN FRANCISCO — Netflix stock's free fall accelerated Tuesday as the shares reached a 20-month low amid intensifying concerns about the video subscription service's ability to overcome public relations problems and competitive pressures.

The latest in a wave of share sell-offs followed Netflix Inc.'s decision to raise $400 million from investors by issuing debt and selling 2.86 million shares of its slumping stock. That served as a reminder that Netflix hasn't been bringing in as much money as management anticipated from a price increase that triggered mass cancellations and damaged the company's once-sterling brand.

Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter, who had predicted Netflix's crash when it was still a hot commodity, interpreted the fundraising as a sign of more trouble ahead. He lowered his price target for the company's stock from $82.50 to $45.

In a Tuesday research note, Caris & Co. analyst David Miller described the fundraising as "a rhetorical signal" that the company is still struggling to retain subscribers after a mass exodus in summer and early fall. He dropped his price target from $77 to $59.

Netflix, based in Los Gatos, Calif., described its fundraising as smart business. "It's not that we need the money, but it's always nice to have more money than you need," Netflix spokesman Steve Swasey said Tuesday.

The company ended September with $366 million in cash.

Analysts also questioned the wisdom of selling 2.86 million shares of stock at $70 apiece to raise $200 million after spending nearly the same amount in the first nine months of the year to buy back nearly 900,000 shares at an average price of $218, The stock sale looks more favorable if it's measured against all of the shares that Netflix has bought back during the past four years. Since 2007, Netflix has spent about $1 billion to buy back nearly 23 million shares at an average price of $45 apiece.

Many investors appear to be losing faith in Netflix's management team, which is led by company co-founder and CEO Reed Hastings. Netflix shares fell $4.02, or 5.4 percent, to close at $70.45 on Tuesday. The stock sagged to $69 earlier in the session, its lowest point since March 2010.

Netflix market value has plunged by $12 billion, or 75 percent, since its stock peaked at nearly $305 a share in mid-July. That's right around the time that the company announced plans to raise prices as much as 60 percent for U.S. subscribers to rent DVDs by mail and to stream video on devices connected to the Internet.

The higher prices infuriated so many customers that Netflix lost 800,000 subscribers during the July-September period – by far the most the company has suffered since introducing its DVD-by-mail rental service in 1999.

The backlash made it more difficult for Netflix to finance its expansion in Latin America and the U.K. while it also meets Hollywood's demands for higher fees to license movies and TV shows for Internet streaming. Netflix expects those financial pressures will mean a loss next year. It would be the company's first annual loss in a decade.

At the same time, Netflix is trying to fend off threats from other Internet streaming services from competitors like online retailer Amazon.com Inc. and satellite TV provider Dish Network Corp.

Technology Crossover Ventures, one of Netflix's earlier backers and still a major shareholder, is standing behind Hastings and the company. The venture capital firm is buying $200 million in notes that won't collect interest and can be converted into stock valued at $85.80 per share before they mature in December 2018.

The $200 million in Netflix stock is being purchased my mutual funds and other accounts managed by T. Rowe Price Associates Inc.

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AP Technology Writer Barbara Ortutay in New York contributed to this report.

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Branson Huggins
01:50 PM on 11/25/2011
Netflix is dead. Sorry, but they killed themselves the moment they got greedy, and they are not going to come back. There are far to many other services out there, and as much as I don't like it, media is going to strictly digital. With the rise of cheap tablets and laptops, and services like the cloud, there is no longer a need for hard copies of movies and the like. Netflix will have to increase it's digital content to keep up with other services like Hulu, Amazon Prime, etc. They lost to many customers due to a greedy move, and they are being punished for it. I don't see them coming back from this. To many other retailers have seen blood and are rushing in to finish them off. It's only a matter of time before Netflix is a thing of the past.
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MiserblOF
Fracking Kills.
11:21 PM on 11/30/2011
I agree with all you say, except.. is the quality of digital streamed video anywhere near as good as DVD, or even more to the point, Blu-Ray? I believe Netflix stabbed all us loyal customers in the back with this egregious price increase, but I dropped the streaming, not the DVD rentals. Could be that I just have a slow rural DSL connection, but for me, streaming was not of good quality and took too long to get cached, and then sometimes had to stop and download some more. I like the DVD's, and am even thinking of doing a little of the stock if it gets low enough.. say $55.. Then there is the issue of bandwidth if everyone starts streaming video. The ISPs are already starting to charge for "high usage," and that might get worse.. are we headed back to the days of hourly charges?? I pay thru the nose for DSL already being in a rural area with only one provider..
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drunkarate
12:09 PM on 11/25/2011
BUY BUY BUY!
06:40 AM on 11/25/2011
Looks like a great time to buy more Netflix stock. I love Netflix. I love streaming Netflix. I love watching Netflix DVDs. I bets the hell out of cable and/or satellite TV. Buying more stock to show my support.
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phantom power
my patronus is an x-wing
09:23 AM on 11/25/2011
smh...
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HunterHikes
11:34 PM on 11/24/2011
I suspect Netflix would bounce back in so many areas if stock holders would demand the resignation of Reed Hastings. If Mr. Hastings truly cared about the company, he would step aside, take his golden parachute of stock and let someone with better vision run Netflix.

As it stands, no one wants to negotiate with Netflix because Mr. Hastings is loathed by the studios. Fair or unfair, it inhibits Netflix growth in business relationships. The longer he stays, the faster Netflix stock plummets.

It's funny that six months ago Netflix was one of the most admired brands in the US. Now it's one of the most hated. Why? Because of Reed Hastings and nothing more.
Satirist1
All 4 d best in the best of all possible worlds
11:21 AM on 11/24/2011
You Reap What You Sow!
People have spoken . Corporate greed punished.
Every single member board of directors,should resign, immediately.
CEO must commit hara-kiri.
02:36 AM on 11/24/2011
Didn't Redbox just say they were also raising their rates? Why no pitchforks there? I mean, how dare they? I feel bad now. My emotions are all damaged by them, so I'll pay more to another company because of my tender feelings.
Satirist1
All 4 d best in the best of all possible worlds
11:17 AM on 11/24/2011
um....Redbox increase-- 25 cents. Not a subscription service.

Try a rational post, next time.
01:30 PM on 11/25/2011
25 cents...per movie. Which, depending on consumption, is a higher increase than Netflix's. Nobody cried though like with Netflix. I'm still confused.
11:23 PM on 11/24/2011
Sorry, but no pitchforks for Redbox because its increase is .20-.25 cents (and I don't have to subscribe). I can live with that. Also, Redbox never acted as condescending and patronizing as NetFlix's CEO.
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drunkarate
12:09 PM on 11/25/2011
The only thing condescending from Redbox is their movie selection.
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parabq
08:00 PM on 11/23/2011
What happened ?? Just a year ago Reed Hastings was boy genius ?? Evidently not !
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the964kid
Friends don't let friends vote GOP
06:46 PM on 11/23/2011
All any share holder has to know is that the Netflix stock was worth over $300/share back in July, and now its down 75%, or in very real terms: $12B in total value!!

What else can anyone think of that's lost 75% of their value in 5 months?? Rick Perry? And the reality is the vast majority of that loss can be directly traced to the actions of Reed Hastings and the rest of Netflix management, who basically brought the company's woes on itself.

Just wait til the Starz deal expires at the end of this year. Netflix has not found a new partner with the same caliber of content to license, and, at this rate, they won't be able to keep up with the annual payments for the deals they have on the table. If Netflix wants to right its ship, which might not even be possible at this point, they need to force Hastings out and give investors confidence in a long term future.
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HunterHikes
11:35 PM on 11/24/2011
Absolutely!!!! I posted almost the exact same thing, and have been posting this for months.
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the964kid
Friends don't let friends vote GOP
06:36 PM on 11/23/2011
I predict the Netflix stock value is going to continue to decrease so long as Hastings and his team are running that company (into the ground). Years from now there will be books written about how bad this Netflix management team was.
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CroatianCritter
is keeping people honest
06:20 PM on 11/23/2011
You guys can be angry with Netflix all you want. It is your right. But please do not come to Blockbuster owned by DISH Network. The management has no clue what it is doing and the service is basically useless unless you have a store near you. DISH has absolutely no idea how to compete in the entertainment industry. It has succeeded due to low prices but you get what you pay for. I can tell you that when the Blockbuster contracts start ending with the studios, DISH is infamous for its media fights with other corporations and local television stations. The loss of studio content on Blockbuster is very likely. Look elsewhere! If your choice is between Blockbuster and Netflix, Netflix is definitely the lesser of the two evils.
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the964kid
Friends don't let friends vote GOP
06:33 PM on 11/23/2011
Nobody is gonna be going to Blockbusters, since thats where most Netflix's members started before fleeing to Netflix. Now there's Redbox, Amazon, iTunes, Walmart and many others in the DVD/streaming rental game.

By the way, there's no way that the management at Dish Network could be more clueless than the original Blockbusters team.
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HunterHikes
11:41 PM on 11/24/2011
Actually, you're (unfortunately) wrong, the964Kid. People are flocking to Blockbuster. The first rule in business is if you're going to destroy the competition, see it through to their last dying breath. Netflix didn't knock out Blockbuster, just weakened them a bit (and they were terribly mismanaged with no vision whatsoever).

The absolute arrogant stupidity of Reed Hastings is such that he didn't think about his rate hike and absolutely stupid attempt to break the company in two and how it would drive users in other directions. If he'd been paying attention at all, he'd have seen that Amazon, Hulu, Redbox and others are devising strategies and cultivating profitable relationships with the studios that absolutely detest Mr. Hastings with a blinding passion.

His arrogant ignorance is destroying Netflix and driving customers to all the other options, including Blockbuster, which has seen record growth in the last 3 months.
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Bushisgone
12:23 AM on 11/24/2011
You have no clue what you are talking about.
I went to blockbuster
Its a better deal, who are you kidding
And you think people will listen to you, are you kidding. Begging them not to go to blockbuster

I was with Netflix from the beginning, I dropped it the day I got their email on the price increase
The management team got greedy
And netflix will be gone in a few years

Everyone use to say that the management team where brilliant

How brilliant can they be, they destroyed the company in 3 months

People won't go back, netflix will disappear because of bad and greedy managment
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Yam716
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08:56 AM on 11/25/2011
I hope not, as I love NF.
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CroatianCritter
is keeping people honest
09:12 PM on 11/27/2011
What you are describing is also DISH Network management. AS A PERSON WHO KNOWS, you ma'am have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. By 2020, everyone will be talking about BlockBuster in the past tense. Believe me, the management of the company is WORSE than Netflix. If you want me to prove it to you, I will send you links.
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portabello
Some of my best friends are Truffles
12:58 PM on 11/23/2011
It's fine that we're all still mad about Netflix, but they are opening up world wide in the coming years and already have the Western Hemisphere locked up.

The fact is, that when compared to cable, Netflix is very inexpensive and very convenient whether you watch it at home or on the go.

I canceled my $80 cable bill, resubscribed to Netflix and fill in the blanks with Redbox.
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ILoveGreatDanes
When the going gets tough, the tough take a nap.
03:06 PM on 11/23/2011
I disagree, portabello. I still pay $80 for cable, because it's not just about money for me. My cable company treats me well. On the rare occasion I've had a problem, I've always been able to get a friendly English speaking representative to help me. My signal's always good. They've raised my rate only once, by $2, in the five years I've had them. They give me loyalty discounts all the time. And of course I have my handy dandy commercial zapping DVR. Netflix lost me, and many other customers, when they got greedy and arrogant. The big banks did too.
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darth geekboy
05:16 PM on 11/23/2011
yes, but you still have to pay for the internet, and i imagine your 4G service, to GET netflix.
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Yam716
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08:59 AM on 11/25/2011
My story is similar to the poster. Yes, I still pay for internet, but the basic kind and I never have a problem with the service.
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cliff53
12:44 PM on 11/23/2011
Netflex was not broke, so why did they want to fix something that was not broke. They were getting ready to expand into other countries and take on millions more of new customers that would have brought in more revenue. I am a netflix user, and I just regret they crapped in their mess kit by trying to fix something that was not broke in the first place.
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oneyippie
Leaning far to your left
12:44 PM on 11/23/2011
American consumers are finally speaking up with their pocketbooks. Corporations have had a field day ripping us off, and now they will finally pay for their greed.

Just wait till consumers start organizing nationwide boycotts against Banks and other greedy corporations. They need to be reminded that the PEOPLE won't be ripped off anymore. Those days are gone!
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democratsaint
The GOP-The Humpty Dumpty of economics
11:39 AM on 11/23/2011
the people are getting tired of being ripped off,netflix was doing good,till it got greedy.let me turn the whole netflix problem around .they were charging for streaming and for 2 bucks more you got 1 dvd at a time.they argued they were losing money on shipping.now lets say they charged the 7.99 for 1 rental and 2 dollars for streaming,the 7.99 was what they were charging for 1 rental.opps now no shipping problem,they still make money on streaming,the point is they were not losing money on shipping ,cause they were making a ton on streaming.but they wanted to make a ton on both.that is called greed,a modest increase might have gone by,say 1 buck.
macchugsid
Conservative Progressive: Hey, it could work.
12:02 AM on 11/24/2011
I agree totally! I just received an email from Sirius/XM that my subscription fee was going up $1.54 a month. I pay quarterly so it works out to about $0.05 a day. That is a much more reasonable increase and I will probably continue with my service. I may start paying for a year at a time because you get a month free that way.
A 60-65% increase in price was unconscionable to me so I dropped my Netflix. I hardly used it but at the previous price point it was a nice fall back on a night that seemed to have nothing else available. Now I will stick with VOD or Redbox. A buck increase I might not have balked at but I have a real problem with naked greed.
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TruEngineHearing
Happiness needs new pursuers...
10:29 AM on 11/23/2011
The Captain says that we're raising Third Class ticket rates, dropping Second Class lunch, and removing some lifeboats so First Class has more room to promenade.

You know, the Titanic didn't hit an iceberg - an iceberg chased it down and sank it for being such a dick...