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Chevy Volt Fire Investigation: GM To Offer Free Loaner Vehicles To Owners Worried About Cars Catching Fire

Chevy Volt Fire

By TOM KRISHER   11/28/11 03:55 PM ET   AP

DETROIT -- General Motors, concerned about the image of its Chevrolet Volt, is offering free loaner vehicles to owners who are worried about the electric cars catching fire.

The move comes after a government safety agency said on Friday that it is investigating fires involving the Volt's lithium-ion battery packs following crash tests. Thus far, the Volt tests have not raised concerns about the safety of other electric cars, the agency has said.

GM said on Monday that the vehicle is safe. But it will contact owners of the more than 5,000 Volts sold in North America since December 2010 to reassure them. It will also offer loaner cars to ensure that owners are satisfied and confident in their purchase. GM has not put a time limit on how long customers can keep the loaners, but said the offer is not a response to demands from customers.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said a Volt battery pack that was being monitored caught fire on Thursday, a week after it was hit in a side-impact crash test. The agency said another battery that was crash-tested recently gave off smoke and sparks. The latest fires are in addition to a battery fire at a test facility in Wisconsin back in June.

The Volt, which can travel about 35 miles on electric power before a small gasoline generator kicks in to run the car, has helped Chevrolet's public image, and GM is eager to protect that good will. The company has promoted the car extensively as a first step toward independence from foreign oil, and the Volt has helped counter a gas-guzzling image left over from years of GM selling mainly pickup trucks and inefficient sport utility vehicles.

Mary Barra, GM's senior vice president of product development, said both fires reported by NHTSA occurred seven days to three weeks after the crash tests, and could have been prevented if the battery charge had been drained as GM has called for in its post-crash procedures.

She said only a few Volts have crashed on public roads. None have caught fire, nor have the battery packs been compromised.

"We don't think there's an immediate fire risk," said GM North American President Mark Reuss, who addressed the media in a conference call along with Barra. "This is a post-crash activity."

NHTSA wasn't aware of the post-crash procedures at the time of the June fire, GM officials have said. In the U.S., GM is notified of any severe Volt crashes through its OnStar safety system, and it sends a team to the car within a day to drain the battery charge to prevent any fires.

In the Volt's system, Lithium-ion battery cells, which essentially are a single battery, are assembled into a pack of cells, and coolant is pumped between the cells to keep them from overheating. In the June fire at a test facility in Burlington, Wis., coolant leaked from the battery and crystallized, and that could have been a factor in the fire, GM has said. The fire came three weeks after a side-impact crash test and was severe enough to cause several other vehicles parked nearby to catch fire as well.

Barra said that in all the Volt incidents, the battery cells were not involved in the fires, only the electronics within the battery pack. But she would not be more specific until NHTSA's investigation is over.

Reuss said GM won't sell any Volts in other countries until it makes sure emergency responders, salvage yards and dealers have been trained to discharge the batteries after a severe crash.

The Volt and Nissan's Leaf, with a total of more than 8,000 cars on the road in the U.S., are among the first mass-marketed plug-in electric cars. They went on sale in the 2011 model year. Other automakers are also working on electric vehicles.

The safety testing hasn't raised concerns about electric vehicles other than the Volt, but NHTSA is asking manufacturers who have electric cars on the market, or who plan to introduce them, for more detailed information on battery testing. The agency also is asking for the companies' procedures for discharging and handling batteries, including recommendations for reducing fire risks.

Lithium-ion batteries, which are rechargeable, have been the subject of several recalls of consumer electronics. Millions of laptop batteries made by Sony Corp. for Apple Inc., Dell Inc., Lenovo Group Ltd. and other PC makers were recalled in 2006 and 2007 after it was discovered that they could overheat and ignite.

The Federal Aviation Administration issued a warning to airlines about the potential for fires in cargo containing lithium-ion and non-rechargeable lithium metal batteries after a United Parcel Service plane crashed near Dubai last year, killing both pilots. The plane, which was on fire, was carrying thousands of lithium batteries.

Incorrectly packaged, damaged or overheated batteries can catch fire, the FAA said.

GM, Barra said, is confident that its batteries are stable and the chemistry is not a fire hazard. She said the company is working with NHTSA and an auto engineering trade association to develop standards for how to handle batteries after a crash.

Responding to a question about whether GM should have caught the problem in its own testing, Barra said the battery pack was tested extensively following all known procedures before the car went on sale. It also won top safety ratings in testing by NHTSA and the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, she said.

Nissan's Leaf has not had any fires after crash tests or on the road, company spokesman Brian Brockman said. The Leaf's battery pack is air-cooled and differs from the Volt's in other ways.

GM will not change its marketing plan for the Volt, which has been extensively advertised on television and has helped the Chevrolet brand attract customers, said Joel Ewanick, the company's global marketing chief. People who are aware of the Volt are 60 percent more likely to consider buying a Chevrolet, he said.

GM's Reuss, a former top engineer for the company, said he is sure the Volt is safe.

"My daughter drives this car every day with two kids in it," he said. "She continues to drive it."

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DETROIT -- General Motors, concerned about the image of its Chevrolet Volt, is offering free loaner vehicles to owners who are worried about the electric cars catching fire. The move comes after a go...
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cmr11
how do you want it
03:19 PM on 01/06/2012
the sad attempt from the right to vilify this car and our president is simply pitiful....... willful ignorance at it's finest. it is the most technologically advance car on the face of the planet and the right it to self absorbed to see it..... how sad.
05:04 PM on 12/03/2011
My girlfriend and I own a Volt, and there's no way that we'd give it up!

Many years ago I had an accident in a Nissan. I was trapped in the vehicle and gasoline was pouring out under me. It was 20 minutes before I was cut out and taken to hospital. I could very easily have become BBQ.

It is those 20 minutes while someone is trapped in a vehicle in which it is critical that it does not catch fire. Beyond those 20 minutes it can be dealt with procedurally, and in fact there are procedures for dealing with it (which were not followed in this case).

The fire in the Volt should not have occurred in the first place, because the battery should have been discharged after the accident, just like gas tanks are drained.

It is hard to explain what a smooth, road hugging performance the Volt gives, the only way to appreciate how much better it is to drive than other vehicles is to drive it. The handling alone makes it safer.

It might be nice if the battery was automatically discharged and disabled until taken for service in the event that air bags are deployed, but it would also be nice if gasoline tanks were also some how made safe in the event of air bags being deployed.

Tthis is the first vehicle of its kind, and improvements come with time and learning.
So don't go bashing this wonderful piece of American made engineering.
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LeftInTheWest
End Prohibition AGAIN!
12:16 PM on 12/20/2011
From one Volt owner to another, Fanned.
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cmr11
how do you want it
03:09 PM on 01/06/2012
i am ordering a loaded up white peal one later this afternoon. i love this technology and this is the most technologically advanced car on the face of the planet.
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Capitalism Is King
Obama Has Made Things Worse!
03:49 PM on 11/29/2011
It looks like President Zero picked another failure.
07:19 PM on 11/29/2011
If any president picked the Volt, it would have to be GWB. The Volt was developed starting in 2006, and the first production model shown in 2008.

In fact, it was also GWB who signed the electric car tax rebates into place. And GWB engineered the GM bailout. So maybe GWB did want to push the Volt.

Is that what you mean by president Zero? Because that's how I remember George, too.
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LeftInTheWest
End Prohibition AGAIN!
11:09 AM on 12/18/2011
Ge0rgh Bush. President of the very worst administration any democracy has been forced to endure.

I too, own a Volt, in color Veridian Joule, and love it.
02:45 PM on 11/29/2011
Here's a link to the 5-star crash test rating given to the Volt by the NHTSA:

http://green.autoblog.com/2011/06/03/chevy-volt-earns-five-star-nhtsa-crash-rating-w-videos/

It's their highest rating. They don't consider the battery problem to be serious, and neither should you.
04:44 PM on 11/29/2011
Should we consider it serious when paramedics and tow truck drivers have been cautioned about electric shock hazards when the battery packs are damaged? Damage can make the batteries run in series, dramatically boosting amperage, making them extremely dangerous.

The equivalent in a gasoline powered car would be if your gas instantly turned into nitro glycerin in the event of a crash...

Top it off that these cars do NOTHING to reduce carbon footprint. You still need a fossil fuel electric plant to power them. And given the energy lost in transmission, they actually increase carbon output over a gasoline engine.

The volt doesn't make sense for anyone but a politician or a kool-aide drinking environmentalist.
07:03 PM on 11/29/2011
Gosh, scaremongering much? What's with the doubletalk gibberish? Mix some nuclear radiation in next time if you really want to frighten people.

"Damage can make the batteries run in series"?? EVs batteries already run in series. This increases voltage, not amperage.

Damage to batteries does not suddenly "rewire" them. The only thing damage does to batteries is cripple them.

The guide paramedics are given on the Volt:

www.evsafetytraining.org/resources/auto-manufacturer-resources/~/media/Files/PDFs/VoltRespondersGuide.pdf

High voltage wiring doesn't run into the passenger compartment. There's no reason to run dangerous wiring (or fuel lines!) there. There's no special danger cutting or prying people from electric cars.

Arc flash is the risk, not shocks. The same danger welders face - sunburns and blindness. Shocks from an EV are very unlikely, the DC wiring is not grounded.

The car will also disable high voltages in a crash automatically.

The fossil fuel argument is old and ignorant. Coal is not what most electricity is made from - see diagram:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/83/2008_US_electricity_generation_by_source_v2.png

Most electricity comes from cleaner sources than oil or coal. EVs are more efficient, too, and burn less fuel per mile.

Electricity transmission: losses are only 7%. See link:

http://www04.abb.com/global/seitp/seitp202.nsf/c71c66c1f02e6575c125711f004660e6/64cee3203250d1b7c12572c8003b2b48/$FILE/Energy+efficiency+in+the+power+grid.pdf

Compare this (93% efficient) to the equivalent delivery step for gasoline - TRUCKING gas to thousands of service stations.
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Captain Archer
Resistance is Futile
12:43 PM on 11/30/2011
Wow! Did you make up that nonsense on your own or is this a copy and paste venture?

The car can run up to 50 miles on a charge with no gas. You do NOT need fossil fuel to power the car but with it you can get over 60mpg.

I guess you're against hybrid cars too right? their batteries are also in series.
10:11 AM on 11/29/2011
It's a new product. Just like any other it has to shake out. This will take a little time. So far there are more positives than negatives.
02:34 PM on 11/29/2011
Exactly. NHTSA doesn't even consider this to be a serious problem.

You wouldn't know from the slanted press coverage, but NHTSA still gave the Volt a perfect 5-star crash test rating.
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Mitchman57
I might be indecisive. But... maybe not.
08:57 AM on 11/29/2011
The cautionary tale here is that our first responders need to follow a new set of guidelines when arriving at the scene of an accident.

GM isn't the only car company putting fire-prone chemicals and contraptions in their cars.

It's a learning curve. We've met this challenge before, we'll do it again.
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1oldhippie
yes, WE can again!
08:47 AM on 11/29/2011
Do the "loaners" come with gas coupons?
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robert horwitz
08:33 AM on 11/29/2011
Well though it said it all I really never liked the name (Chevy Volt). Though its a catchy name it really doesn't express the sense of power and speed that the American Public has grown up on from the Auto Industry. Now we have a good reason to change the name of this car to something that expresses what our Auto Industry and Advertising Agencies have been expressing why we have been buying these things for decades. Let's rename it the (Chevy Fire). I like it!
09:38 AM on 11/29/2011
And what should the Nissan Leaf, or the myriad of other Hybrid cars be called.

They were lucky enough not to have been tested yet!
12:49 PM on 11/29/2011
Okay, let's have some fun! How about the Nissan AAA because that's who you'll be calling when it prematurely runs out of battery on your way to work. Or, maybe the Nissan Hitchhiker (catchy, eh?). Then there's the Nissan Walk (bring your umbrella). To be fair though I'm sure there are plenty of satisfied Leaf owners as well as Volt owners (me being one) who enjoy reading all these points of view, both positive and negative. Great entertainment over morning coffee.
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MyResponsibility
Action over hope
08:19 AM on 11/29/2011
5000 Volts sold in 11 months?? That is a pathetic number. Toyota sold 18,600 in the month of March alone.
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Mitchman57
I might be indecisive. But... maybe not.
08:57 AM on 11/29/2011
They'll sell one to you.
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MyResponsibility
Action over hope
09:51 AM on 11/29/2011
Who is they?  They will sell one to anybody who is willing to buy. They may offer me one, but I'm not a buyer.  Apparently this is the general attitude of the market - there is not much of a market for the Volt.  Where are all the pro-union environmentalists?
12:28 PM on 11/29/2011
GM has sold every Volt made.

In 2011, GM has sold the car just to test markets, and has made very few of the car in order to be on the lookout for potential problems (just like this.)

The factory was retooled this summer, and 1,000 new workers have been hired, in order to ramp up Volt production for 2012.

So the national rollout of the Volt is just starting now. GM plans to make up to 60,000 of them next year.

In other words, the 5,000 number doesn't mean anything.
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MyResponsibility
Action over hope
01:20 PM on 11/29/2011
No, they have not sold every car made.  A floor-plan sale to a dealership is not a sale, it's inventory.  

This is not a retooling issue - The Buick Lucerne is made on the same line as the Volt, and their sales did not stall during the retooling.  They had planned on selling 10,000 Volts in 2011 (even with the understanding that they were only selling in test markets), they will have to double sales over October's record (1,108 units) in November, and then increase another 50 in December to hit that goal.  It is possible, but not likely, to meet that lofty goal.  Given that the Volt's sticker price is $40K, it costs more than a 2012 BMW 328i xDrive Sedan, this is not a price point reachable by the 99%.  The only good thing going for GM is that it is the last month of the tax year, and this may be enough to get buyers in to get quick advantage of the $7500 tax rebate offered on the car.
08:19 AM on 11/29/2011
If the Chevy Volt is so great, why aren't the Democrats who lecture everyone else on efficiency buying them?
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Mitchman57
I might be indecisive. But... maybe not.
08:48 AM on 11/29/2011
Are you in high school?
09:39 AM on 11/29/2011
You can tell, huh? It is pretty obvious.
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Capitalism Is King
Obama Has Made Things Worse!
03:52 PM on 11/29/2011
Because Liberals say one thing and then do another. President Obama is a great example of this .... all hat and no cattle.
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cmr11
how do you want it
03:14 PM on 01/06/2012
i am ordering one this afternoon.
KenInd
We too shall get through this.....
02:55 AM on 11/29/2011
Now if they powered cars using crematoria gases (see related HuffPo story).........
KenInd
We too shall get through this.....
02:53 AM on 11/29/2011
Wow. 5000 Volts produced in 12 months.

Hardly ground breaking success.

More a fizzle than a spark.
12:30 PM on 11/29/2011
The 5,000 number reflects the number built, not demand for the car. The national rollout of the Volt doesn't happen until 2012. It's just been sold to a few test markets this year.
04:46 PM on 11/29/2011
The spark will kill you if you get in an accident. Just think, you could get into a fender bender, drive home, and have your whole house go up in flames. Is this Obama's answer to the housing crisis? Issue a volt to everyone underwater on their mortgage and then collect the insurance? lol!
07:09 PM on 11/29/2011
Why do so many here want this to be Obama's car? The Volt was developed from 2006 - 2008. GWB was president, not Obama.

And GWB engineered the GM bailout.

So what part of this has anything to do with Obama?

And of course, the car will not go up in flames. Read the actual articles about this. Fires occur in a very specific crash-test scenario, and only after the battery sits for days or weeks afterward.

The NHTSB doesn't consider this to be a serious problem. They still give the Volt their perfect 5-star rating.
03:47 PM on 12/02/2011
Yep, much worse than a Exploding Pinto or Crown Vic.

And if it takes three weeks to catch on fire after a accident, even the average Tea Partier would probably have enough time to turn off the turn signal, park on their lawn and get out in time to watch Fox News.
02:38 AM on 11/29/2011
GM had a wonderful electric car 10 years ago, the EV 1, and they destroyed it and sold the patent to Chevron. What a bunch of losers!
http://documentarystorm.com/who-killed-the-electric-car/
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04:09 AM on 11/29/2011
Wonderful? Time listed it in their 50 worst cars of all time. And they didn't sell the patent, they sold their share of the battery division, GM Ovonics Battery Systems.
09:49 AM on 11/29/2011
Perhaps you should read Time's assessment... too expensive to build, batteries technology wasn't advanced enough, yet they were so bad that EVERY owner wanted to keep them.

"GM... had done more to advance EV technology than any other,.."

What horse do you have in this race? I've noticed a series of GM and US manufacturing attacks over the months and a preference to certain foreign manufacturers.
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SavageLeto
The Fulcrum
02:12 AM on 11/29/2011
Woah...

Hang on a second people-

The car ignited 3 weeks AFTER the accident... I seem to recall more than a few gasoline powered vehicles involved in accidents giving its human occupants substantially less time than the 3/4's of a month it took for the Electric car to catch fire, and burn them to death.

In fact I am sure that we average at least 2 people burning to death in accidents each day in America... I mean at least in an electric vehicle you have a chance to gnaw off an arm or seat belt strap and crawl away before being burnt to death.
04:47 PM on 11/29/2011
You have to adjust the numbers for the number out there. You'll have to start watching for electrocutions too! Also, what’s the cost for insurance going to be if you need to change out the battery when you’re in a fender bender?
07:15 PM on 11/29/2011
There have been no electric car electrocutions, and there won't be.

Electric car DC is not grounded. So you would need to touch two separate wires to get a shock, not just one.

DC is also much safer than AC. It takes a larger DC voltage/current to be hazardous compared to AC.

And where do you get the idea that a fender bender will damage the Volt's battery and cooling system? The crash testing scenario involved was a pretty extreme one. NHTSB has made clear that this sort of accident is very unlikely to occur on the road (and they didn't take back the Volt's 5-star safety rating.)
01:47 AM on 11/29/2011
These headlines are pumped at us to instill FEAR in the general public. That is FEAR of anything that threatens the OIL COMPANIES from losing us as drone SLAVES to them as we are now!!!
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04:12 AM on 11/29/2011
Did you miss the part where it says the range is 35 miles before the GASOLINE engine kicks in? Don't sell your gas cans quite yet.
12:12 PM on 11/29/2011
I've had my 2012 Volt for just over two months, 1200+ miles, and haven't used even one gallon of gas yet. Purposely ran the batteries down a couple weeks ago just to see what the engine driven generator mode was like. Worked great. At this rate, a tank of gas might be used over the next year. Maybe not. The 35 mile range is more than plenty for my daily driving and should I need to go further, the Volt won't leave me on the side of the road like the Nissan Leaf.
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Capitalism Is King
Obama Has Made Things Worse!
03:53 PM on 11/29/2011
Just far enough to make it to the next gas station.