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Alabama Immigration Law Leads To Charge For Japanese Honda Employee

Alabama Immigration Law

JAY REEVES   11/30/11 08:11 PM ET   AP

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. — A Japanese man temporarily working at Honda's car factory in east Alabama became the second foreign auto worker charged under the state's law on illegal immigration, the company said Wednesday.

The employee at Honda Manufacturing of Alabama in Talladega County received a ticket but wasn't taken into custody, unlike a Mercedes-Benz manager who was previously arrested in Tuscaloosa, Ala.

Yet Republican lawmakers in Alabama cast doubt on whether the citation was actually made under the immigration law, saying it did not seem to match the law's requirements.

Philip Bryan, spokesman for Senate President Pro Tem Del Marsh, R-Anniston, said there is "no instance or violation" under the new law that calls for writing someone a ticket.

"Therefore, regardless of human error, it is not legally possible for anyone ever to be written a ticket if they violate the immigration law," Bryan said in an email to The Associated Press. "None."

It wasn't clear where the Honda worker was stopped. But a person with knowledge of the case said the man was ticketed at a routine roadblock set up by police even though he had a valid Japanese passport and an international driver's license. The person wasn't authorized to release the information and asked not to be identified.

Parts of the law have been blocked by federal courts in response to lawsuits by the Obama administration, immigrant rights groups and others. Police are still required to ask for driver's licenses as proof of citizenship during routine traffic stops.

The law states that foreigners are presumed to be in the country legally if they have forms of identification including a valid passport, so it is unclear why the man would have been ticketed under the law if he had a passport. State Homeland Security officials, who are monitoring enforcement of the law, said they were seeking details on the case.

On Nov. 16, a German manager with Mercedes-Benz was arrested under the law for not having a driver's license with him while driving a rental car. Tuscaloosa city attorney Tim Nunnally said the charge was dismissed after the man provided the documents in municipal court.

Mercedes-Benz opened the door for Alabama's multibillion dollar automobile industry with its decision to build its first U.S. assembly plant about 40 miles west of Birmingham in 1993. Honda has been building cars and minivans for a decade about 45 miles east of Birmingham in Lincoln, where it has a 3.5 million-square-foot plant, and Hyundai and Toyota also have factories in the state.

While some industrial recruiters are worried fallout from the law may harm Alabama's image, development leader Ron Scott said he was unaware of any effect on ongoing recruitment efforts.

Scott said he's getting more and more questions about the law and its effects on the state, though.

"Most of the calls I've gotten are about the possible impact on the state from local economic developers," said Scott, executive director of the Economic Development Association of Alabama.

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BIRMINGHAM, Ala. — A Japanese man temporarily working at Honda's car factory in east Alabama became the second foreign auto worker charged under the state's law on illegal immigration, the compa...
BIRMINGHAM, Ala. — A Japanese man temporarily working at Honda's car factory in east Alabama became the second foreign auto worker charged under the state's law on illegal immigration, the compa...
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09:37 PM on 12/28/2011
You're going down Alabama..!
01:11 PM on 12/03/2011
Leeds, Alabama. The citation was for something else. Why don't you do some better reporting on this? Also, there are civil penalties for police who don't enforce the law. The pressure needs to be on the politicians not scapegoat police caught in the middle.
10:29 AM on 12/03/2011
That tells you that cops are waisting time in stupid stuff instead of dealing real crimes
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Joan Bartos
05:21 PM on 12/02/2011
Alabama is a state that's been on a collision course with reality and modernity for a long,long time.
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BlairCase
01:04 PM on 12/02/2011
According to revised news reports, the Japanese auto worker was issued a ticket for driving without a driver's liscense. He wasn't detained becuase he had a passport that showed he was in the United States legally. The ticket was dismissed after the auto worker went home and got his international driver's liscense. It's hardly rises to the status of an international incident. Foreign workers know that they need to carry their driver's liscense with them when they drive in the United States.
01:14 AM on 12/02/2011
The Italian is next. Do they sell Fiat 500 in Alabama?
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Mason Hernandez
08:33 PM on 12/01/2011
Message received; stay away from Alabama, unless you are white, straight, christian and republican
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Mark Lindley
01:58 PM on 12/02/2011
What ridiculous race baiting and anti-conservative remark to make. None of it even remotely resembles the truth!
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Joan Bartos
04:38 PM on 12/02/2011
Sorry to say it,but yes, it does. Alabama lawmakers are making a huge mistake in taking the state back to the days of segregation. The perception will linger longer than the reality,perhaps,as most of the provisions of this law will be struck down by higher courts.
In the meantime, savvy international businesses will seek to do business in other states that aren't known for targeting people of color (other than white) and/or any other ethnicity (than Anglo Saxon).
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BlairCase
05:16 PM on 12/01/2011
The Alabama authorities say that the Japanese auto worker simply got a traffic ticket during a routine traffic stop. He had his passport and foreign driver's liscense and wasn't detained or charged under the immigration law. Sounds as though something was "lost in translation."
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BUTCHER99
04:02 PM on 12/01/2011
Just where in Japan is Mexico located?
Could it possibly be that yet again, the popular feeling has nothing to do with reality?
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inthedesert
Those who never question will fall for anything.
12:12 PM on 12/01/2011
More efforts by the pro-illegals forces in America to cast Alabama's attempts to halt illegal immigration as racist and unlawful. It's not going to work. The tide of opinion has finally turned against illegals. Everything they do will work against them so they need to walk a very fine line between whining and complaining and calling those of who want them out racist, Nazi pigs. LOL. The more visible they make themselves, the more people will turn against them. It's a no win for them and with the 2012 elections coming up and a very distinct possibility that a fervent, anti-immigrant right winger could be elected does not bode well for Mexicans.
12:40 PM on 12/01/2011
Translation: "I don't like to respond to the actual article, because that might be uncomfortable."
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BlairCase
05:18 PM on 12/01/2011
The article points out that the Japanese auto worker wasn't charged or detained for violating the state's immigration law. He got a traffic ticket.
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chevyliddle
what's a micro-bayou?
05:29 AM on 12/02/2011
The article is pretty clear. If you have a foreign sounding surname and get a speeding ticket in Alabama....you're going to get your 15 minutes of fame. Of course, some minor details will have to be intentionally omitted for clarity.
12:55 PM on 12/01/2011
Brokeback Mountain wants its wardrobe back
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Joan Bartos
04:39 PM on 12/02/2011
It's okay...They're still wearing their duds from "Deliverance"...
10:50 AM on 12/01/2011
The radical anti-immigrant folks should be all a rage about this situation where an alien failed to carry his documents. This Japanese man according to Alabama is a criminal just for not having his papers on his person. So why didn't he go to jail like the German last week? Well obviously there are good foreigners and bad. The bad ones go to jail the good ones get a "ticket?' In Alabama it will be easy for the police. Just ask are you an auto executive or do you work in a chicken processing plant. Executive gets a ticket. Chicken plucker goes to jail.

On the "build the dang fence" front. Bad news another tunnel this one a third of a mile long with rail cars, electricity and wooden floors has been found in California.
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Mark Lindley
01:47 PM on 12/01/2011
What anti-"immigrant" folks? There is opposition to illegal aliens, not immigrants. None of us know all the facts of this particular case but you have decided to put your spin on it to fit your agenda of anti-enforcement of our immigration laws?

If the chicken plucker is in our country illegally then he deserves to go to jail.
03:11 PM on 12/01/2011
If you don't see the anti-immigrant movement in this country you just aren't looking or are attempting to justify prejudice. The argument that we like immigrants just not illegal has long ago been lost in this wave of new laws.

In Alabama you ask for proof of citizenship of immigration. If the person fails to produce documentation that fits the law he/she is arrested. While in custody the suspect is allowed to present evidence of citizenship or immigration, but having failed to have proper documents the alien is punished by the Alabama law.

To put my spin on it I am not anti-enforcement rather I believe in the system that currently exists where only trained and qualified persons enforce the immigration laws. I don't want immigration enforcement turned over to a local sheriff who's only qualifications is an election. The States have no right being involved in immigration it is and always has been a federal issue. Alabama has a long history of discrimination, one-sided enforcement and abuse of civil rights I do not want this state or any other to be the new Border Patrol.
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BlairCase
05:21 PM on 12/01/2011
The Japanese auto worker didn't go to jail because he has his foreign driver's liscense and passport. He was not in violation of Alabama immigration law, but simply got a traffic ticket. The German executive who was driving without his driver's liscense and passport did go to jail.
05:46 PM on 12/01/2011
The Japanese auto worker didn't go to jail because the Police have huge questions about their duty and responsibility under the new law. That is way, according to AP reports 16K police in Alabama are going to take a four hour class on the law. The reason the class didn't happen before the law went into effect?
Again according to the AP: Alan Benefield, head of the Alabama Police Officers' Standards and Training Commission, said Thursday the panel decided last month to take the unusual step of requiring four hours of training for every sworn officer in the state because of the law's complexity and the lingering confusion...Benefield said the police training couldn't be held earlier because commission workers needed time to sort through the law and court rulings. "We had to understand what we were training on before we could do it," he said. "There was a delay on it."

In Alabama today you must have paper/documentation on your person at all times to prove you are a citizen or in the states legally. If you have a Military ID or a licence from a state that doesn't require you to produce a birth certificate you will go to jail to wait until you prove your citizenship or legal status. This auto worker got off because of confusion not because he had Japanese or international identification.
07:59 AM on 12/01/2011
It's interesting how we somehow know that this is related to the immigration law, but no one knows the details of the ticket. Irresponsible reporting to push an agenda?
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chevyliddle
what's a micro-bayou?
05:40 AM on 12/02/2011
Yup....coupled with some irresponsible reading too. It just proves that some people will believe what they want to believe....regardless of facts presented. #4
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fiLthyLiberaLdotcom
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07:36 AM on 12/01/2011
"routine roadblock "

Isn't that what non-free countries do?
ALABAMALEFTIST
What is to be done?
05:55 AM on 12/01/2011
This law has become a nightmare for law enforcement and for the state. With all of the confusion, the negative economic effect and the terrible publicity one might expect the blockhead Republican legislature to repeal. Well, don't count on it. The law wasn't passed to be effective particularly. I was passed to pander to visceral xenophobia and racism. Repeal would also be nearly impossible because of the well known inability of southern white men to acknowledge our own fallibility. We just don't make mistakes down here. So as our towns and cities go bankrupt, the schools fail for lack of funds and our prisons fill up to 200% of capacity, we will continue to stop and arrest foreigners on their way home from work and to project the blame for all of our problems on these good people.
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voyager48
Illegitimi Non Carborundum
09:33 AM on 12/01/2011
Absolute nonsense!

With or without any of these laws, City and State police absolutely have the right to enforce federal immigration laws and legal precedent exists in the highest courts supporting this.

Even LAPD special order 40 is not an immigration silver bullet as the pro-illegal lobby would have you believe. All that says is that people should not be stopped solely for the purpose if determining legal residence status. Even the much quoted "Morton Memo" says clearly that it is against federal law to be here illegally and that the memo in no way changes that or provides any protection from apprehension, detention or removal.

In the course of a legal stop (which seems to be the case here) any officer anywhere in the country may inquire about legal residence status.

Secondly, illegals comprise 2% of Alabama's population. If all it takes is their removal to cause the state to collapse - they have far bigger problems to worry about.
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Mark Lindley
01:50 PM on 12/01/2011
What nonsense! Enforcement of our immigration laws has nothing to do with race and xenophobia. Don't you ethnocentrics a far left libs ever get tired of pulling the race card?

No state or city should exist on illegal activity. They must stay within our laws. What is so hard to understand about that? It is nonsense that we need illegal activity to boost our economies.
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J Michael Norris
Don't mistake narrow-mindedness for perspicacity.
02:23 AM on 12/01/2011
Well, looks like the law that is already crippling their agricultural industry may very well drive away international business with its xenophobic intent.

Good Job Alabama!
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07:37 AM on 12/01/2011
I love it when a plan comes together.
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Mark Lindley
01:51 PM on 12/01/2011
There are unlimited visas for foreign, legal agricultural workers so why would the agricultural industry be crippled? It is just the greedy farmers whining for their cheap, illegal workers and you are buying right into it.
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J Michael Norris
Don't mistake narrow-mindedness for perspicacity.
02:41 PM on 12/01/2011
The reality is that the agricultural industry is failing in Alabama because of this law. The people who are paid to do this work have been paid above minimum wage. Is this enough? I don't know. But that is a different issue. Your type likes to deflect from the subject at hand, which is that the agricultural industry in Alabama is failing because of this law.