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California High-Speed Rail Plan Doesn't Meet The Rules, Analyst Finds

California High Speed Rail

First Posted: 11/30/11 05:39 PM ET Updated: 11/30/11 05:45 PM ET

By Juliet Williams, Associated Press

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- The state's legislative analyst says California's plan for a $98 billion high-speed rail system to connect Northern and Southern California does not comply with some parts of the 2008 ballot measure voters approved to provide the seed money, providing the latest obstacle for the embattled project.

It says Proposition 1A required rail officials to identify all sources of committed funds for a usable segment of the line and to clear all environmental requirements before the $9 billion in bonds could be sold.

The latest plan from the California High-Speed Rail Authority proposes to start with a 130-mile stretch of track from Merced to Bakersfield that would serve as a test track for 220 mph trains and could be used by existing Amtrak routes until the next segment of high-speed rail is finished.

The report by the Legislative Analyst's Office, issued Tuesday to a legislative transportation committee, said that stretch would not be a stand-alone operating segment of the high-speed rail line, as required by Proposition 1A.

With federal funding for high-speed rail drying up and speculative financing for many of the rail authority's plans, the analyst's office said it is increasingly likely that the stand-alone, 130-mile stretch planned for the Central Valley "may be all that is ever built."

"It is highly uncertain if funding to complete the high-speed rail system will ever materialize," the report said.

The rail authority plan released earlier this month boosted the estimated price tag for the entire system, linking Anaheim to San Francisco, from $43 billion to $98 billion and moved final completion to 2034 from 2020. The authority needs legislative approval to begin its plan to start building a stretch of track in the Central Valley, which it hopes to do next year.

High-speed rail authority officials have conceded that much of the funding for future segments remains speculative, but they hope to attract private investors after initial segments are built.

"My fear is that with (an uncertain) price tag and no dedicated revenue stream, any money we do get will go to that project, to the detriment of the state's existing transportation systems," said Assemblywoman Bonnie Lowenthal, D-Long Beach.

Still, she said high-speed rail promises "extraordinary benefits such as jobs, private investment and economic growth that has to be considered," according to comments reported by the San Jose Mercury News. She is chairwoman of the Assembly Transportation Committee, which held a hearing on the rail project Tuesday.

Dan Richard, who was appointed to the high-speed rail board by Gov. Jerry Brown, acknowledged during the hearing that the project faces greater hurdles if it does not have a dedicated revenue source.

Even so, board members believe the draft business plan and funding proposal are consistent with Proposition 1A and have promised to work with the nonpartisan legislative analyst to address concerns, rail authority spokeswoman Rachel Wall said.

The high-speed rail commission had said in its report that while the $98 billion price tag is high, the state otherwise would need to spend more than $170 billion in upgrades to the state's transportation infrastructure to accommodate future population growth. That would include wider freeways, more airport gates and upgrades to commuter trains and tracks.

The analyst's report does not go into details but calls that comparison "very problematic." It notes that the state will still need to maintain its existing infrastructure, fund urban transit and increase capacity on freeways to address higher demand.

"In light of this, the Legislature should consider where to invest limited state resources," the report said.

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By Juliet Williams, Associated Press SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- The state's legislative analyst says California's plan for a $98 billion high-speed rail system to connect Northern and Southern Cali...
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nkdgolf
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11:31 AM on 12/01/2011
This article only gives some of the disturbing facts.
The original plan approved by the California voters was for $43 billion and was for a train from San Francisco to San Diego. The new estimate is $98 billion to $118 billion and only goes from San Francisco to Anaheim. This new estimate does not even include the link to San Diego, the second largest city in the state.
The original plan was approved by the voters 52-48. Do you think it would have any chance to pass now given these new estimates? I don't.
InLosAngeles
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10:20 AM on 12/01/2011
I would love to see a breakdown of costs associated with this project.
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02:50 AM on 12/01/2011
The High Speed Train is out dated already and in five years it will be past the point of completion due to new developments in Technology's I'm working on right now. This is a waste of money from the investment point of view and the California Tax payers. Look, it's like drill an oil well project that will last a month. In the middle of the drill, say a week out a company shows the world how to use water as a fuel source and oil sinks in value to a point of in completion. What happens to the investor's? You get nothing. This "out dated" train is at that point right now as my new industry will change the face of the World with Abundant 100% Green Energy. But, who cares and reads any of this "Socialist" Huffington Post postings anyway? I know my time writing was a waste of my time.
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kinney1a2b3
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02:32 AM on 12/01/2011
California is not an all up north and an all down south State. It the train going to go from town to town at 100 miles an hour? I guess in that way of use the "people" would get to use it. What will happen when we can manufacture maglev parts and systems and power the Mag Train with my magnet motor? No fuel and no huge foot print on the earths surface. This is a way to try to keep up with the commies or something and California is broke and anti-Business so the State will become even more of a waste of time and investment. California needs to cut it's pork spending to zero and balance the books. This out dated train is a waste of money California and her people don't have.
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02:20 AM on 12/01/2011
Too many special interests protecting their turf are going to kill this. It is the same for everything else in America...the status quo is going to destroy America. there was a time when we had the confidence to build...now, we don't even maintain what we have....the rest of the first world is passing us by....kinda sad.
02:18 AM on 12/01/2011
98 billion dollars for a railroad? No way. You can fly from LA to SF in about an hour. Why do we need a gamblers express to Vegas? If you want to get there fast you can fly there from LAX in about 40 minutes
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02:23 AM on 12/01/2011
What a small mind...oil will not last forever and it is going to be even more expensive..as for Las Vegas, there is far more there than gambling...wholesaling, shipping, etc...not to mention nearly 2 million people and a system that would eventually tie into Phoenix, Alburguerque, Dallas.....oh, well....
03:37 AM on 12/02/2011
We can make planes that fly on bio fuels and other alternatives. You know that this project is going to go much higher than 98 billion dollars. This is waste of money and it will not be completed for 20 years. We would be better to expand the transportation infrastructure we already have like our airports, local public transportation and existing rail lines
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01:31 AM on 12/01/2011
Anyone want to bet that California politicians have been secretly buying property along the projected right of way and selling it back and forth between each other at ever inflated prices so that they can sell it back to the state at a "fair market price" based upon recent sales in the neighborhood?

In Illinois, they did that when they were planning to build the deep tuinnel project, and the cost of the right of way mysteriously was more than the cost of the tunnel itself. Illinois politicians have been buying farmland in Peotone waiting for the third Chicago airport to be built.
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02:23 AM on 12/01/2011
property there is already owned by the richest people and corporation in the country.....check out JG Bosworth and co.....
01:20 AM on 12/01/2011
Why can't America seem to get things done anymore?
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02:24 AM on 12/01/2011
selfish and greedy....
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kinney1a2b3
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02:35 AM on 12/01/2011
Public unions. The costs have gone threw the roof.
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Mike Davis 747
11:37 PM on 11/30/2011
The logo on the side of the train looks like Obama's logo.
10:27 PM on 11/30/2011
I want to,(Diffidently) again mention the Trans California Canal. It's SHovel Ready.
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09:42 PM on 11/30/2011
The first proposed leg of this system will not even be high speed rail and is in an area without any true ridership. It is why no private investor are providing funding for the project
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ynori
12:07 AM on 12/01/2011
I was just going to say the same thing. It would make more sense to start it between San Francisco and Sacramento or something, two big urban areas that might attract more train riders. Instead, they're starting it between Madera and Bakersfield in the central valley. No one from Bakersfield needs (or wants) to go to Madera, and vice versa. It will receive no return on investment until it moves on to larger cities, which is why no one will invest.
09:16 PM on 11/30/2011
High-speed rail from San Diego through Los Angeles to San Francisco might make some sense. But the big push was for high speed rail to ship the high rollers to Las Vegas. FAIL!
08:44 PM on 11/30/2011
Do the math. Using 20 year amortization on the original cost estimate of $100 billion at 0% interest. you will need to sell 275,000 tickets at $50.00 each per day every day for 20 years to recover just the cost of construction. 11500 passengers per hour every hour of every day or a train every ten minutes with 2000 pasengers on it. That's a lot of trains........
10:26 PM on 11/30/2011
Sir! There are democrats here ,Sir! (Though,not very many. Too bad there's not something vile to say about Sarah Palin. yhat would bring them out.) Still,Democrats/math ? Does not compute.
qand,Atlas is merely Twitching.Think what will happen when He Shrugs.
08:22 AM on 12/01/2011
Fix your space bar.
08:08 PM on 11/30/2011
How does the rail authority have a modicum of credibility....

"The rail authority plan released earlier this month boosted the estimated price tag for the entire system, linking Anaheim to San Francisco, from $43 billion to $98 billion and moved final completion to 2034 from 2020."

So the cost from the original estimate went up by a measly 120% and the time taken to completion is off my a tiny 14 years, and I am betting neither one of those estimates will be correct.

Kill high speed rail!
08:05 PM on 11/30/2011
Actually , I doubt California will still be there by 2034.
08:23 AM on 12/01/2011
We will be here. States to the east will have slide into the Atlantic.
12:46 PM on 12/01/2011
are you sure that you won't be bought at a bankruptcy sale by the Chinese ,and hauled west by billions of people doing a rope tug ?