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National Defense Authorization Act: Senate Moving To Complete $662 Billion Bill

National Defense Authorization Act

DONNA CASSATA   12/ 1/11 09:33 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — Ignoring a presidential veto threat, the Democratic-controlled Senate on Thursday overwhelmingly approved a massive, $662 billion defense bill that would require the military to hold suspected terrorists linked to al-Qaida or its affiliates, even those captured on U.S. soil, and detain some indefinitely.

The vote was 93-7 for the bill authorizing money for military personnel, weapons systems, national security programs in the Energy Department, and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in the fiscal year that began Oct. 1. Reflecting a period of austerity and a winding down of decade-old conflicts, the bill is $27 billion less than what President Barack Obama requested and $43 billion less than what Congress gave the Pentagon this year.

Shortly before final passage, the Senate unanimously backed crippling sanctions on Iran as fears about Tehran developing a nuclear weapon outweighed concerns about driving up oil prices that would hit economically strapped Americans at the gas pump. The vote was 100-0.

"Iran's actions are unacceptable and pose a danger to the United States and the entire world," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said. "Iran supports terrorist groups, arms the killers of American soldiers, lies about its nuclear program, violates its citizens' basic rights and threatens Israel's security."

The Senate's version of the defense bill still must be reconciled with the House-passed measure in the final weeks of the congressional session.

In an escalating fight with the White House, the bill would ramp up the role of the military in handling terror suspects. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and FBI Director Robert Mueller both oppose the provisions as does the White House, which said it cannot accept any legislation that "challenges or constrains the president's authorities to collect intelligence, incapacitate dangerous terrorists and protect the nation."

Late Thursday, a White House official said the veto threat still stands.

The bill would require military custody of a suspect deemed to be a member of al-Qaida or its affiliates and involved in plotting or committing attacks on the United States. American citizens would be exempt. The bill does allow the executive branch to waive the authority based on national security and hold a suspect in civilian custody.

The legislation also would deny suspected terrorists, even U.S. citizens seized within the nation's borders, the right to trial and subject them to indefinite detention. Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., had sought an exception to the provision for U.S. citizens, but her effort failed, 55-45.

Lengthy negotiations produced a face-saving move that the Senate backed 99-1, a measure that said nothing in the bill changes current law relating to the detention of U.S. citizens and legal aliens. Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin, D-Mich., repeatedly pointed out that the June 2004 Supreme Court decision in Hamdi v. Rumsfeld said U.S. citizens can be detained indefinitely.

The series of detention provisions challenges citizens' rights under the Constitution, tests the boundaries of executive and legislative branch authority and sets up a showdown with the Democratic commander in chief. Civil rights groups fiercely oppose the bill.

"Since the bill puts military detention authority on steroids and makes it permanent, American citizens and others are at greater risk of being locked away by the military without charge or trial if this bill becomes law," said Christopher Anders, senior legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union.

The bill reflects the politically charged dispute over whether to treat suspected terrorists as prisoners of war or criminals. The administration insists that the military, law enforcement and intelligence agents need flexibility in prosecuting the war on terror after they've succeeded in killing Osama bin Laden and Anwar al-Awlaki. Republicans counter that their efforts are necessary to respond to an evolving, post-Sept. 11 threat, and that Obama has failed to produce a consistent policy on handling terror suspects.

The Senate rejected an effort by Feinstein to limit a military custody requirement for suspects to those captured outside the United States. The vote was 55-45. Feinstein said her goal was to ensure "the military won't be roaming our streets looking for suspected terrorists."

The issue divided Democrats, with nine senators, many facing re-election next year, breaking with their leadership and administration to vote against the amendment. Republicans held firm, with only Sens. Rand Paul of Kentucky, Mark Kirk of Illinois and Mike Lee of Utah backing Feinstein's effort.

"We need the authority to hold those individuals in military custody so we aren't reading them Miranda rights," Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H., said in defense of the legislation.

Last week, the administration announced a new set of penalties against Iran, including identifying for the first time Iran's entire banking sector as a "primary money laundering concern." This requires increased monitoring by U.S. banks to ensure that they and their foreign affiliates avoid dealing with Iranian financial institutions.

But lawmakers pressed ahead with even tougher penalties despite reservations by the administration.

Sens. Bob Menendez, D-N.J., and Kirk had widespread bipartisan support for their amendment that would target foreign financial institutions that do business with the Central Bank of Iran, barring them from opening or maintaining correspondent operations in the United States. It would apply to foreign central banks only for transactions that involve the sale or purchase of petroleum or petroleum products.

The sanctions on petroleum would only apply if the president determines there is a sufficient alternative supply and if the country with jurisdiction over the financial institution has not significantly reduced its purchases of Iranian oil.

Testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, David Cohen, a senior Treasury Department official, and Wendy Sherman, an undersecretary of state, warned that the amendment could force up oil prices – a financial boon for Iran.

"There is absolutely a risk that in fact the price of oil would go up, which would mean that Iran would in fact have more money to fuel its nuclear ambitions, not less," Sherman said. "And our real objective here is to cut off the economic means that Iran has for its nuclear program."

Cohen said the amendment would tell foreign banks and companies "that if they continue to process oil transactions with the Central Bank of Iran their access to the United States can be terminated."

"It is a very, very powerful threat," Cohen warned. "It is a threat for the commercial banks to end their ability to transact in the dollar and their ability really to function as major international financial institutions," and one that could push allies away from contributing to a coordinated effort against Iran.

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Associated Press writer Bradley Klapper contributed to this report.

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10:42 AM on 12/05/2011
Heading towards police state status....yes, we are. The New World Order has taken hold. Occupy! Occupy! Occupy!
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12:05 AM on 12/04/2011
fd
06:03 PM on 12/03/2011
This really is bad news for all Americans.
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DanAsta
09:19 AM on 12/03/2011
The sanctions against Iran are not going to work when it comes to natural resources. There are no alternative supplies for many countries especially in this economic climate. No distributors and dealers are going to be selling oil on credit to Greece, for instance, so sanctions against Iran is about posturing. Countries that deal with Iran do it because they have to. Iran is often the only country that will supply fuel on credit, and since the commodity markets are in private hands that can't be forced to sell to this or that country if they don't want to, this naturally means that nations can't force other nations to stop buying necessary goods when the private markets refuse to supply them.
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
04:59 PM on 12/02/2011
Of course because the detention piece is tied to a bill that provide funds for the the military, both sides of the isle will claim that the president doesn't support the troops if he vetoes the bill.

The president doesn't have to worry so much about running against the republicans next year. He has to run against the democrats in congress every day.
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
04:56 PM on 12/02/2011
Congress:

Full time pay, part time work, with no results at any time.

Bumbs and cowards.
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
04:46 PM on 12/02/2011
The detention provision of the bill is pretty stupid. How do you allow the military to detain US citizens when congress has never bothered to define the terms domestic terrorist and domestic terrorism?

Yes, some measures need to be in place to ferret out terrorist activities and to detain all participants. But this bill is a judicial challenge waiting to happen. I hope the president hangs tough and vetos this bill. Congress is a bunch of cowards for not dealing with all of the salient issues here. If they pass it - and the presidnet signs it - it also sets up a scenario where the courts will be able to declare it unconstitutional or legislate from the bench. They need to work out the details and get it right. They should not be given the chance to screw it up and infringe on the rights of citizens, nor be able to fail to protect us from internal attacks we know will eventually come, simply because they said "oops, we screwed up. We'll fix it in the next version of the bill."

Man up and do what you are paid to do - and get it right.
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04:10 AM on 12/02/2011
Slip-sliding into a police state - one little exception at a time.

American citizens have rights under the Constitution. This concept protects us all. Some future US administration might take the Orwellian step you think impossible - lock YOU up as a terrorist. It just takes someone to make that charge.

Good for Rand Paul sticking by his Libertarian ideals some of which make perfect sense.

Watch for the Congress, Supreme Court and some future administration to build on this foot in the door to take down our most sacred rights.
10:23 PM on 12/01/2011
Everything about the President is a disgrace. When are the real Democrats going to stand up and declare a challenger or is the Democratic Party leadership going to allow the country to be further ruined by this insipid, intellectual poseur?
markgoode
a voice from the center
12:05 AM on 12/02/2011
You can run.
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04:14 AM on 12/02/2011
You talk like Al Quieda. Under this bill, if it becomes law, some government agent could be making note of your anti-government rant. There could come a day when military police pick you up and whisk you to a secret prison, never to be heard from again. All because you sound like a "terrorist" which you do. .

Hmm - Perernales.
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06:05 PM on 12/02/2011
Perernales does not sound like a terrorist to me,the senate sounds like terrorist,you possibly sound like the kind of person that has got us in this mess!
09:52 PM on 12/01/2011
This is a timely series of event with OWS gaining momentum. The writing is on the wall. Congress does not represent the people they represent the corporations. It is call fascism and they are about to close the deal by creating a military state. This could be the start of a true revolution. Wake up America! Wake up!
09:45 PM on 12/01/2011
Obama should veto this, even though it will likely get overridden by Congress. At the very least it would show he's looking out for regular people. And, he should let it sit on his desk for the maximum length of time before vetoing it, thus causing Congress to miss their early Christmas break.
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
04:53 PM on 12/02/2011
Exactly. And if they miss the early plane out of town, then maybe they can do something about unemployment compensation that is about to expire - in their spare time.
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06:05 PM on 12/02/2011
But He's Not
09:40 PM on 12/01/2011
Who are we defending ourselves from again?
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06:07 PM on 12/02/2011
We are defending ourselves from....Ourselves, go figure.
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carolineeaton
I am a Goddess who runs with the wolves
09:14 PM on 12/01/2011
The ship is sinking. Anyone still think the system works?
09:44 PM on 12/01/2011
Well, if I was making over $1 million a year, I would say it works. But I don't. So..no. Rome didn't fall in a day. Neither will the United States. But by the time I retire, it may.
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carolineeaton
I am a Goddess who runs with the wolves
09:45 PM on 12/01/2011
This old ship has been listing for a long time, but people are only just beginning to catch on. Hope you make it to retirement, but you may have nothing to retire on once you are there.
01:38 PM on 12/04/2011
The system works great when the Politicians make decisions for what is in the best interest for the people not their own interest. I say since the folks in washington can not make decisions because they add some many items into a bill, they need to go veto on one item at a time. I know they would have to work for a living now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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carolineeaton
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01:47 PM on 12/04/2011
HUFF POST MODERATORS: I have this poster stalking me that sometimes goes as "Underabridged," sometiimes as "TaximanZeroOne," and now as "WeDeserveBetter," Sometimes this person is name calling, sometimes not, but always agressive, even when not addressed, and I see in initial two poster names stalks people. Will post this at other sites also.
08:35 PM on 12/01/2011
We certainly not allow the President and Commander In Chief to authorize a Miranda Warning without the apptoval of the three amigos - McCain, Lieberman and Lindsay G.
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07:11 PM on 12/01/2011
So... will we have a funeral for the Constitution or just dump it in a ditch somewhere?
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08:31 PM on 12/01/2011
It'll get dumped in a ditch. They have already lost any respect for the document.