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Michael Bloomberg In MIT Speech: Cut Teachers By Half, Large Classes OK

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First Posted: 12/02/11 11:21 AM ET Updated: 12/02/11 02:37 PM ET

In remarks Thursday that have since sparked some controversy, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg tackled school improvement -- through a suggestion to halve the teaching force. Bloomberg's office responded Friday by saying the statement was taken out of context.

"If I had the ability to just design the system and say 'ex cathedra this is what we're going to do,' you would cut the number of teachers in half and weed out all the bad ones," Bloomberg said while speaking at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, according to CBS New York. "And double the class size with a better teacher is a good deal for the students."

The mayor also told the audience that in districts across the country, teachers are no longer hired from the top of their classes and instead, are culled from "the bottom 20 percent and not of the best schools," DNAinfo.com reports.

At a news conference later Thursday, Bloomberg emphasized a focus on teacher quality, saying that while he would prefer smaller classes with more effective teachers, he's "in favor of" putting highly effective teachers in front of larger classes if finances are limited.

But in a statement to The New York TImes Friday, Bloomberg's spokesperson said the mayor's remarks at MIT were taken out of context -- Bloomberg wasn't making a formal proposal, just speaking euphemistically about improving educational quality. The full context of Bloomberg's remarks from The New York Times:

Education is very much, I’ve always thought, just like the real estate business. Real estate business, there are three things that matter: location, location, location is the old joke. Well in education, it is: quality of teacher, quality of teacher, quality of teacher. And I would — if I had the ability, which nobody does really, to just design a system and say, ‘ex cathedra, this is what we’re going to do,’ you would cut the number of teachers in half, but you would double the compensation of them, and you would weed out all the bad ones and just have good teachers. And double the class size with a better teacher is a good deal for the students.

Still, plenty were angered by Bloomberg's remarks. United Federation of Teachers President Michael Mulgrew told CBS New York that the mayor's comments are much like his appointment of Cathie Black as schools chancellor, despite the fact that she was a former magazine editor who had no teaching experience.

“So the mayor thinks this is a good idea, in high schools to have class size in high schools of 70 kids. Clearly the mayor has never taught," Mulgrew told CBS. “And probably the mayor’s having another Cathie Black moment.”

Bloomberg ousted Black in April after just three months in the position. The move was "in the city's best interest," Bloomberg said at the time.

Black's tenure was marred by low approval ratings and an instance during which she quipped that birth control could solve school overcrowding. She questioned after the ousting whether sexism was a factor in deciding her departure.

Bloomberg continued Thursday to emphasize the importance of quality teaching by questioning the effectiveness of technology in the classroom, though a recent Department of Education report shows tripling enrollment in digital learning.

“It may be heresy in this day and age to say so, but there’s not a lot of evidence that when you introduce a lot more technology in the classroom the results are better," he said, according to DNAinfo.com.

Bloomberg faced a flood of criticism and protests in the spring when he proposed axing more than 4,000 of the city's teaching jobs. A $66 billion budget deal reached in June aimed to protect those jobs, but a categorical technicality still forced some teachers out of the system amid budget cuts, and by October, 777 New York City Education Department were casualties of the largest layoff at a single agency since Bloomberg took office in 2002.

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07:47 PM on 01/06/2012
Double the class size...so instead of 28 students--in a room that's wall to wall desks--I'd have 56 freshmen...in one class? And I'm supposed to prepare them to meet ACT's benchmarks? These people are making me crazy; I'm so very glad that I don't teach there!
02:40 AM on 01/03/2012
He doesnt have a clue does he?

These are the kinds of people who are shaping education policies in many states. They don't have an understanding of....anything when it comes to education.
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07:48 PM on 01/06/2012
I don't think he even knows where to buy a clue.
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PELAGIUS2
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05:26 PM on 01/02/2012
Like Newt's idea of a senior custodian, Bloomburg would cut the teaching staff by half, designate them "senior" teachers and hire the laid off ones back as teachers aides to keep the crowds in order and pay them minimum wage.
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Justice belongs to all, or it belongs to none
05:10 PM on 01/02/2012
Michael, what say you try teaching for a week or so. Full schedule of six classes per day. Leave your security at the door and wear a name tag that says Mr. anything but Bloomburg. Good luck, you'lll need it.

The best teachers I ever had were part Einstein part snake oil salesman.
01:11 AM on 12/07/2011
Well, if teaching is just like selling real estate, I want my students reappraised!
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rdsathene
Pedagogy of the Oppressed by Paulo Freire
05:49 PM on 12/06/2011
Bloomberg's incompetence is only exceeded by his ignorance. Those of us in the reality community, familiar with all the copious amounts of peer reviewed research, know that while improving teacher quality isn't a bad thing per se, that the importance of teacher quality pales in comparison to out of school factors. This is why Bloomberg, like all the other right-wing corporate ed-reformers focus on the one thing that won't cost him and his class a dime.

We have his regressive counterpart here in Los Angeles, another Mayor who is at the beck and call of Broad, Gates, et al.
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10YearTeacher
10:31 AM on 12/06/2011
Let him talk all he wants. Just further evidence he has no clue. Even the most adamant "reform" supporters don't agree with doubling class size.
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CherokeeIrishMarine
11:02 PM on 12/05/2011
Well, well, what a surprise here. Smaller government, and think of all the teachers who could then compete with teenagers for jobs at McD's!
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Yossarian22
09:07 PM on 12/05/2011
This man needs to be forced to resign. This is just unacceptable.
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03:33 PM on 12/05/2011
It makes sense that a person who has worked on Wall Street his whole life would have no idea who to run a school or how to run any education program effectively.
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09:02 AM on 12/05/2011
Kids that want to learn and are motivated will learn in any environment. My parents and grandparents learned in a one room school house heated with a wood stove. And those are the people who built this country. It's time we focused on them rather than the riff-raff. No child left behind is about as dumb as its originator.
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ladyangelnyc
Living on a prayer...
01:03 PM on 12/05/2011
Our country was built on the backs of the poor, our country flourished because of the educated and those who made advancements to this country. If we do not start giving ALL our kids a stronger foundation and education then we will not be able to compete long term with China, India, etc. We need industry growth and we won't get that by denying anyone their God given right as an American.
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DeepThought24
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01:20 PM on 12/05/2011
Of the OECD nations the US is the 2nd highest while I’m guessing China’s and India’s will be just a fraction of ours. Yet they seem to be doing better than us??? Your turn?
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Marc Driftmeyer
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10:48 PM on 12/04/2011
Bloomberg's always been a pro-oligarch business man. By the end of his 3rd term as mayor his brand will be destroyed politically.
12:51 AM on 12/05/2011
When he doesn't like what the experts say, he buys his own.
12:51 AM on 12/05/2011
Many of us knew the emperor had no clothes from day one.
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reasonshouldrule
10:43 PM on 12/04/2011
Another poorly educated republican who thinks he knows something. Large classes at the high school and elementary level will assure that the majority of children learn nothing. I'm beginning to think that's really what the republicans want.
12:49 AM on 12/05/2011
It took you a while. Welcome aboard.
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reasonshouldrule
08:42 PM on 12/05/2011
I've thought that--and worse--for a while now, but I'm still trying to give some of them the benefit of the doubt. :-)
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reasonshouldrule
10:38 PM on 12/05/2011
Btw, you have a wonderful moniker, one with a message of truth. Sweden (and many other scandinavian countries as well) does work and works well, with a higher standard of living, higher literacy and education rates, lower mortality, and even a higher GNP than the U.S. It isn't just luck that Sweden's economy has suffered less than most other countries' economies during the big recession.
07:58 PM on 12/04/2011
Just a few ideas: 1. Require all preschool and daycare teachers to have an education degree and certification and pay them what "regular" teachers make because they are the people RAISING OUR CHILDREN!!! 2. Get rid of the high stakes tests that teachers spend all their time teaching the students how to take and that determine teacher and student failure or success in schools (thanks to NCLB) 3. Bring back technical/vocational schools because not all children should be pushed into college and we need skilled workers like plumbers and electricians. 4. Start mandatory military service with a guarantee of college credits for service and help with tuition.
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reasonshouldrule
10:44 PM on 12/04/2011
Very good ideas all. Except for the military service part, which I wouldn't like to see. But otherwise, you have made some excellent points.
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Marc Driftmeyer
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10:49 PM on 12/04/2011
Better idea: Roll Pre-School into Public Grade Schools so Parents aren't paying 2 paychecks out of 4 a month just to have someone watch their kid and teach them nothing.
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ladyangelnyc
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01:04 PM on 12/05/2011
*Applause*
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03:13 PM on 12/04/2011
It's all part of a bigger plan by the rich and powerful to dumb down people, starting from the young on up.
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reasonshouldrule
10:45 PM on 12/04/2011
That's exactly what I'm beginning to fear as well.