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Does 'Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer' Promote Bullying? (VIDEO)

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The Huffington Post   First Posted: 12/06/11 03:01 PM ET Updated: 12/06/11 03:01 PM ET

The holiday season is here, and with it comes the reappearance of classics like "It's A Wonderful Life," "Miracle on 34th Street," and the 1964 film "Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer."

Before you warm up a mug of hot chocolate and set up camp on the couch, take a minute to look at the questions posed by Fox & Friends anchors about the stop-motion classic, Mediaite reports.

"Comet is saying to children, don't ever play with this reindeer again," George Giuliani, professor of special education at the C.W. Post Campus of Long Island University, said in the debate. "And he tells him to go home and he bullies him and mocks him, and the other kids start mocking him. Can you imagine if your child's teacher said to the class 'Don't ever play with this child again'?"

Bullying in "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer"? Giuliani seems to think so, and his argument according to Mediaite, comes in the end of the movie between Santa Claus and the reindeer himself.

"Santa Claus is saying, 'You cannot be on my team because you have a disability.' Now, at the end, [Rudolph] helps Santa Claus get through the snowstorm. Because he has done something extraordinary, he is finally accepted."

After much back-and-forth, host Gretchen Carlson put an end to things, exclaiming "It's a cartoon!"

On Friday, conservative pundit Bill O'Reilly took another aim at the holiday season by criticizing Rhode Island governor Lincoln Chafee for erecting a "holiday tree," calling it "amazingly dumb."

The news organization also claimed to be "winning the war on Christmas" in a Fox Nation bog post, citing Walgreens as proof:

"Walgreens is the latest store to return to explicit references to Christmas, switching its position a day after some Christian groups threatened to boycott over its generic holiday wording.

The American Family Association and the Liberty Counsel—Christian groups that maintain lists of “naughty” and “nice” retailers based on which stores reference Christmas—applauded Walgreens’ switch, along with several other big stores who are coming off the naughty list for the first time in years."

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The holiday season is here, and with it comes the reappearance of classics like "It's A Wonderful Life," "Miracle on 34th Street," and the 1964 film "Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer." Before you wa...
The holiday season is here, and with it comes the reappearance of classics like "It's A Wonderful Life," "Miracle on 34th Street," and the 1964 film "Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer." Before you wa...
 
 
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04:27 PM on 01/16/2012
This is the sort of silliness that gets academics laughed at. 1st & obviously, can we get an estimate of how many people have modeled their lives & values after the story of Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer?

Then, we have a lot of people puzzled about how it might *promote* bullying, when most of us seem to think the opposite. Perhaps our brains are not sufficiently oxygen-starved.

Doesn't every PhD course have a 15 minute orientation about, "don't be a tool"?
jinsin
Always Question Authority!
04:05 AM on 12/13/2011
I always thought the moral of the story was that each and every one of us is special in some particular way.
Finding that particular something can be a difficult journey for some; full of adverse circumstances and ignorance but the important thing is that we believe in ourselves.
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special38x2
Live, Love, & Laugh
11:25 AM on 12/11/2011
Did this professor finish the end of the story? Fire him, he's overpaid for his input...
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special38x2
Live, Love, & Laugh
11:20 AM on 12/11/2011
If anything I think it helps people be more sensitive of it - Rudolph was the hero of the story, overcame the obstacles, and gained respect in the end....
Chestnut horse
with a white blaze
10:27 PM on 12/09/2011
Next, they will call Frosty the Snowman porn because he is not wearing pants.
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special38x2
Live, Love, & Laugh
11:21 AM on 12/11/2011
Truly laughing :) But what a scary thought!
foresure
Brash and Harsh
03:05 PM on 12/09/2011
If you want to know who or what promotes "bullying"

It is the teachers. Having been deprived of all legitimate authority in the classroom, have been completly convinced that they have absolutely no power in the school, and having been informed that anything, and everything they say in the classroom, "will be held against them"

They resort to bullying to gain complaiance.

But, of course if they are "friends" with the good students, nobody will complain.

The teachers are the role models for the bullies.
02:32 PM on 12/09/2011
Bullies don't love their targets after they torture them. Listen to the lyrics, then get a life!
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stopnlisten
Hitch your wagon to a star!
01:25 PM on 12/09/2011
It doesn't promote it. It exposes it. Good teachable moment for any parent on their toes.
02:29 PM on 12/09/2011
Amen!
wacado
Responding to the world as I see it. . .
10:25 PM on 12/07/2011
There are people out there that have too much time on their hands and will find fault in just about anything. Why don't we stop talking, watching TV and movies, reading news, etc? Everyone is so offended these day. Take a prozac!! It is just a cartoon.
02:30 PM on 12/09/2011
Dynamite comment!
wacado
Responding to the world as I see it. . .
03:28 PM on 12/09/2011
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02:00 PM on 12/07/2011
Rudolph teaches children that what makes us different is our special talents. There is strength in uniqueness. Once Rudolph discovered how to use his talent, all the other reindeer loved him. That is the message of the story. It is a fable which illuminates how bullies (if reindeer can be bullies) are ill-informed, and the bullied (if Rudolph was in fact bullied) needs to always be true to him or herself. www.HereSheIsBoys.com
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El Chingaso
Fighting for mental superiority...
01:44 PM on 12/07/2011
Professor Giuliani, you have w-a-y too much time on your hands, fella.
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SeaBlood
cynical about religion
12:47 PM on 12/07/2011
Before condemning all of the other reindeer, let's get one thing straight!. Rudolph's red nose was caused by a deadly skin fungus that reindeer get if they get close to one with a red nose. Would you have the whole herd get wiped out to save an afflicted individual ( who might die anyway) I say this: let reindeer them spend billions of reindeer tax dollars to do research in the prevention and cure of Rednosedness.
foresure
Brash and Harsh
03:06 PM on 12/09/2011
Hey, but what adult cannot remember be degraded and humiliated as a student. I was an "honor student' and was on the wrong end of that a number of times.
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SeaBlood
cynical about religion
03:59 PM on 12/09/2011
Actually, my post was meant to be a colbert-style joke. I, too, was picked-on in school.
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SF TKF
Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
11:26 AM on 12/07/2011
Did they watch the same cartoon I did? It’s about believing in yourself and about those who are different overcoming and being triumphant. The bullies lose and have to own up to the fact that they were wrong.
wacado
Responding to the world as I see it. . .
10:26 PM on 12/07/2011
THe version you are writing of is the one I watched too.
10:41 AM on 12/07/2011
By the end of the story, the bullies learn that Rudolph has value, and learn A Very Valuable Lesson. The take away is supposed to be "Everyone has worth, even if YOU don't see it, so be nice to everyone." To say Rudolph "promotes" bullying would be like saying "Psycho" promotes murdering blondes taking trips. I know that'd give Nancy Grace a "small O" at least, but it doesn't make it true.
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Conuly
11:53 AM on 12/07/2011
That's what the message is supposed to be, but the one I always saw was "It's okay to bully kids, because they'll be so pathetically needy they'll fall all over themselves to help you for the merest chance of recognition and an end to the abuse. So go for it, it won't hurt you at all!"

God, I hate that song and special.
10:24 AM on 12/07/2011
I think it shows how mean and hurtful bullying can be, no? And I can't believe I'm bothering with replying.