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Sebastian Thrun: Google's Driverless Car

First Posted: 12/06/11 09:36 AM ET Updated: 12/09/11 03:01 PM ET

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Watch Stanford AI Lab's director Sebastian Thrun's TEDTalk above and then explore his thoughts in this companion essay.


All it took was a roughly 60-second lap around the top of a parking structure at high speeds to convince TED attendees that autonomous vehicle technology has come a long way. Navigating hairpin turns with precision unmatched by many human drivers, the car in Long Beach merely hinted at its real potential. I'm excited to say that progress on the project has continued rapidly since I was at TED, and I'm more motivated than ever to realize what has been my dream and that of many others for a long time.

Like most people, my connection to driving is very personal. I lost my close friend Harald to a car accident when I was 18, after he lost control on an icy road and collided with an oncoming truck. Then, roughly a year ago, my lab manager Suvan was killed after a distracted driver hit her Prius from the side while she was crossing an intersection. Sadly, these tragedies are not uncommon.

In fact, the statistics are sobering. After the U.S. Department of Transportation recorded 32,788 traffic fatalities in 2010, Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood referred to distracted driving as "a deadly epidemic." Think about all the distractions you face when driving -- the kids in the backseat, a ringing cell phone, the stalled vehicle on the side of the road. These moments are part of life and therefore are hard problems to solve. When you have a very hard problem, the key is sometimes to approach it from an unexpected angle. In the first legislation of its kind from any state or nation, the state of Nevada recently passed a law paving the way for drivers to operate a self-driving, autonomous car.

As you might expect, this means that a vehicle may drive itself without the active control of a human operator. More specifically, the car technology we have been working on at Google uses radar, GPS, cameras, a rapidly spinning LIDAR laser, and other devices to navigate properly and understand a complex driving environment.

I believe wholeheartedly that self-driving cars can make traffic safer. After all, they never blink or focus on switching the radio station. They have no blind spots, and they can simultaneously process information at a rate that no human can match. Driving is a completely different experience when you know the exact speeds and locations of all the vehicles around you, and when you can interpret and call upon detailed maps of road infrastructure and street-level signs. These capabilities may one day open up driving to the elderly and disabled who today do not have driving privileges. It's an exciting future.

But self-driving cars are not just about safety. I estimate that the average car is immobile 97% of its lifetime. Think about how many occupied parking spaces and underused cars that means. With less than 5% of Americans using public transportation to get to or from work, are we tackling this problem correctly? Self-driving cars can open up new models of car sharing that we can only imagine today. One way or another, America should take the helm of this kind of innovation.

Most of my professional life has involved my attempts to turn science fiction into reality. Thanks to the hard work of a world-class team, our self-driving cars have completed nearly 200,000 miles of autonomous driving on public highways. I envision a future in which this technology is available to anyone, and that's a vision I would like us all to keep on our horizon.

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AmericanCynic
Sarcasm: It's a way of life
10:37 PM on 07/23/2012
Imagine how cool the first programming error (bug) will look. All these driver less vehicles running rampant without a driver? That doesn't take in the sadistic hacker the infects the software. Oh, that's right software never has a problem. Personally, I am still waiting for the Fifth Element they knew how to travel.
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firewired
Compared to what?
11:25 PM on 06/25/2012
Just imagine this: Someday in the not too-distant future, kids will accept driver-less cars as normal and cars with steering wheels "antique!" I'd say within 40 years, driver-less cars will be quite normal and under-appreciated, just like phones have become.
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yonoton
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04:51 PM on 05/17/2012
Wouldn't it be great to have a self-driving electric mini-RV to take to work each day? You can set the navigation parameters, make some coffee, cook some breakfast, respond to some emails, and grab a nap before arriving at the office. Heck, you can even operate on some days completely from your mini-RV, shuttling from meeting to meeting. Too cool.
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AmericanCynic
Sarcasm: It's a way of life
10:42 PM on 07/23/2012
It would be like the 60's back in the days of the oil rich sheiks coming to buy everything in sight (one even wanted to buy the Alamo for his son). SUV's back the were called Winnebago and had a new fascinating technology called cruise country. The poor rich fool though that meant auto-pilot turned it on and went back to make a sandwich. This then created a massive accident by running off the road and killing both the driver and the Winnebago.
07:33 PM on 01/23/2012
Is there any partial dump of some of the driving algorithms available??

Regards,
Jim Pruett, Director
WikiSPEEDia.org
"Eliminating speeding tickets worldwide"
03:41 PM on 01/04/2012
what if technology fails...or the rise of the machines....looks too mooviesh to me....
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RedRat
Ignorance is fixable, stupidty is forever
06:11 PM on 02/13/2012
Well humans driving cars fail too! Every day, we hear of traffic deaths and injuries because cars crash--stupid human errors are made all the time. If we are going to judge technology against human endeavors, let us compare errors made by both.

Redundancies can be built into auto driving on the tech level. Yes, computers fail, the power goes out. But I have heard and seen the results of drivers having heart attacks or strokes on the road too. Frankly, I can't wait for these automated cars to come along. Computers don't get drunk or use drugs, but humans sure do.
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AmericanCynic
Sarcasm: It's a way of life
10:44 PM on 07/23/2012
No, they get hacked and poisoned....
11:45 PM on 12/27/2011
So everyone will have their own self-driving cars? Why doesn't everyone then just take public transportion. Sounds like money is being spent on the wrong idea.
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TallMagnolia
10:20 PM on 01/03/2012
No, everyone could reserve a car to pick them up and drive them to work and the car/system will automatically schedule for ride sharing and calculate the fastest most efficient route. When all cars are driverless, traffic jams and high idle times will become almost non existent. And all that public transportation will be driverless as well, so we won't have bus drivers crashing busses full of people with no seatbelts killing the riders and anyone in its way.
10:58 PM on 01/03/2012
I hope so! Wasn't that supposed to happen in the year 2000?

WAIT! You got idea from a movie. ;)
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RedRat
Ignorance is fixable, stupidty is forever
06:15 PM on 02/13/2012
Public transportation (PT) works very well for high density living, as New Yorkers can attest. However, for the suburban and rural areas, PT does not work too well. Buses cost perhaps 10 times or more the cost of a cheap commute car that can perhaps haul 1 or 2 people. Unless that bus is carrying at least 20 or more people every day, it ain't such a great bargain.

However, if are to use buses, then an automated driverless bus is a great idea. Right now, the major cost of PT is labor, mostly the drivers. They could provide a real economy on keeping PT cost low.
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AmericanCynic
Sarcasm: It's a way of life
10:49 PM on 07/23/2012
You need to go to Hong Kong! Since back in the 90's , they have had English style double decker buses run by computer. Although they can be a bit nerve racking at first when one pulls and stops about 3 inches from the one in front of it. Great city and a wonderful party town.
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Lo Chiaro
Knowledge + wisdom defeats ignorance
11:13 AM on 12/25/2011
The better version of a "self driving car," is called High Speed Rail. In America, more cars are owned than there are drivers licenses. No more reason is needed to campaign against bad city planning and excessive auto dependence.
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RedRat
Ignorance is fixable, stupidty is forever
06:18 PM on 02/13/2012
High Speed Rail (HSR) works very well where you have long distances to traverse, but it is not necessary for daily commute distances of less than 20-50 miles. The higher cost of installing HSR for reducing commute costs by only a few minutes is a waste. HSR would work very well for commute distances of 50+miles; however, you would have to eliminate all the stops in between because this would reduce the effectiveness of the "high speed".
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AmericanCynic
Sarcasm: It's a way of life
10:51 PM on 07/23/2012
Yeah, but wait until the first car drives across the tracks at the wrong moment or High Speed assisted suicide. Gonna be cool with a 200 mph impact.
10:00 PM on 12/07/2011
It could work fairly well in a tighter urban environment where you can't drive fast to begin with, but most of the world driving isn't in crowded cities. In those environments (at least in the United States) we should really be thinking of incorporating more worthwhile public transportation like bullet trains and light rails, part of the technology is to save fuel costs and it's not going to save that much fuel as we all know a few thousand in reality isn't that much in the whole of things.

What happens when components such as brakes start to wear out or react in different weather conditions? Are these vehicles going to be able to accurately adjust? Sure it can drive itself 1000s of miles in fair weather conditions in California, that's not most of the world. It's still a cool idea and could be a good option for some people, kind of like how a smart car is a good option for some people. A quick manual override system must be in place otherwise people won't have to be scared of themselves driving now, their cars can scare the hell out of them on their own when they don't react in an unsuspected incident to its programming. Here in the Midwest the road conditions can get harsh, unexpected and you need to be able to adjust. I can't believe some people are saying they'd like to see the day where nobody drives a car, that's just paranoid.
12:49 PM on 12/12/2011
whoa! you ARE worried, are you not?
Chill... this is just a first approach, don't be so hard on it!
This isn't about perfection­.
01:07 PM on 12/12/2011
I would actually think that self driving cars would be ideal for just the situations you've outlined. AI can attempt to adjust to new situations based on underlying goals, like staying on the road and not colliding with other objects, and such a system be trained as thoroughly as its designer cares to train it. Many drivers do not deal well with unexpected road situations, for example where I live in Vancouver it snows infrequently so people are typically unprepared to drive snow and we have more accidents, whereas a properly trained self driving car could be just as prepared navigate snow as it is to navigate the sunny streets of California.
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AmericanCynic
Sarcasm: It's a way of life
10:54 PM on 07/23/2012
I used to live in Colorado where it snows every year and the people all drive like they are from Hawaii.
02:51 PM on 12/07/2011
How much money will retrofitting the entire fleet with fly-by-wire stabilatrac or will it simply be illeagal to enter the roadway without a new up-fitted vehicle. Can you say Fleet Renewal???
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ajustman
01:58 PM on 12/07/2011
no drivers license until 21 years old, give them all bicycles
01:57 PM on 12/07/2011
I cant belive none of you who have posted so far get it, including Mr. Thrun. The number one reason for accidents resulting in major injury and death is speeding. So I ask all of you, in the entire US the avrage max speed is 60-65 mph. which by the way is to high. So way has our country in the last thirty plus years allowed the making, selling and allowing us to buy cars that all go over 100 mph and upwards of 120-140 mph, when there is no place in the entire country you could drive it legally at those speeds. Now I ask all of you, have you not gone over the speedlimit once or twice in your life time? let me answer that YES. so why dont they just sell us cars that go say just 30-35 mph Its called crusie control and we have it. O' I know people wouldent be getting into as many accidents and when we did it wouldent be so coastly and deadly, not good for insurance companys, cops giving tickets and every other agencey and company who makes there money and living off of our mistakes. Not to mention who would spend 2-3 houndred thousand on a sports car that can only go 35 mph. Its like crime and drugs we dont want it to exsist, except for the sevral millions of pepole who make a living off of it. Wake-up America
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Grimmsd
Independent
03:27 PM on 12/07/2011
You are incorrect. Speeding is a common contributing factor, but impaired driving is the most common cause.

In the areas where the speed limit is 60 or 65, freeways, speed is only a contributing factor 14% of the time. Slow drivers are just as dangerous as fast ones. Lane changes are risky and minimizing them is a good idea. Slow drivers staying on the right is the best way to reduce accidents.

Reducing speed limits just cause more people to ignore the limits and makes traffic worse.
10:00 PM on 12/07/2011
Yeah it's actually safe to drive at higher speeds than 65mph. Look at the autobahn in Germany. People drive over 100mph on there every day and there's less accidents than a typical highway capped at 65mph.

Another thing to think about is how many sensors are on these cars and what happens when they fail? I'm all up for automatically driving cars, but if there's no way to manually override and people become so reliant on it that they're terrible at driving for real then that could just be trouble. And yes anyone who has survived a wreck or knows anyone who died in a wreck will think "oh wow great idea" because they have fear of driving, but when the first one of these cars actually does have an accident there will be a huge anti-technology push on them.
02:36 AM on 12/08/2011
The speed limit you're quoting is generally only applicable to freeways and rural areas. It drops right down to 25/30 in most residential and urban areas (some up to 50, but not many). Also, according to the NHTSA for 2009 (doesn't list 2010 yet) out of 45,435 fatal crashes only 9,669 were speed related. 10,125 were driver alcohol related, so speed is not the number one reason.

As Rchd11 says above, you only have to look at Germany and even the UK where people regularly drive a lot faster than 60/65mph and the accident rate is lower. The driver fatality rate is actually decreasing year on year based on population samples in most western countries. The problem is all the accidents get reported a lot more, and a lot of it is just fear mongering.
01:17 PM on 12/08/2011
Jayne/Rchd11, Let me exsplain this once again as I said previously. SPEED is the #1, second to none reason for death & serious injuries when it comes to automobile accidents. As a retired police officer of 34 years, I have never seen or heard of two cars both going 30mph and hitting each other and someone dying or being severley injured. As both of you mentioned alcohol is in fact a big reason for a lot of accidents (The Cause) But Speed is still the reason that pepole die or are badley injured. When a drunk crosses the centerline at speeds of 60-70 mph and hits another vehicle who is also going 65 mph the impact is often refered to as a smll bomb going off. But more important is that niether one of you addressed my main point as to why our goverment allowes the making and selling of Cars, trucks, SUV's Motorcycles and even a concrete truck can get up to 100+ mph, when htere is absalutly no need for it. O' the Otto Bond that you are reffering to and are correct about and I agree, but please dont leave out the fact that when an accident does occure that 98.9% of the time no one survies and the ones that do wish they were dead.
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sban226
01:57 PM on 12/07/2011
This guy's heart is in the right place but I can tell you that this form of control will not come to realization. We are human flaws and all and will not and maybe cannot allow this type of control of our lives. I for one would rather risk all the perils of driving rather than have a machine do it for me. Why because as a human I need to have the feeling of control whether it be real or imagined. I really feel this is a noble idea but not one that will come to be at least not for all situations.
12:52 PM on 12/12/2011
Did you know that you already trust machines a lot more than this while flying on an airplane?
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RedRat
Ignorance is fixable, stupidty is forever
06:29 PM on 02/13/2012
Well speak for yourself. A rather romantic notion of driving, imbued into us by the rugged individualistic slant of our culture, basically the cowboy and his horse. There are many who have never learned to drive, mostly in highly urbanized areas, who would welcome such a vehicle. Frankly, I have driven my whole life, I would love to have an automated car that I would allow it to drive me to all kinds of points here in the west. Have you ever driven mile upon miles of empty flat land?
01:49 PM on 12/07/2011
is it programed to acknowlegde if a child is alone in the car to not go any where? kids will be leaving home all the time if they can get in it and start it up. who needs a license? we may very well have some lost children for sure! there has to be some type of finger print or eye scan screened to be recongized for use of the vehicle and even a home device that tracks it to give it's whereabouts.
01:48 PM on 12/07/2011
The holy grail is the automated taxi system.

The U.S. has more registered cars than licensed drivers. The national car fleet is 97% idle on average. We simply can't afford to make the kind of efficiency improvements we need to make on a fleet which is so grossly over-sized. More of the population is flocking to cities in search of jobs or closer proximity to their jobs, and we can't park all of these cars in dense population centers.

We need a smaller fleet of efficient cars that can be effectively and conveniently shared by a large population. An automated taxi system fits the bill, especially within population centers, but such systems could also be useful for connecting suburban households to commuter transit lines. It can cost $150-200 a month to park at a commuter rail station, and we wonder why ridership is low!
01:21 PM on 12/07/2011
The most useful endeavor I've seen posted in a long time. The entire paradigm of human powered vehicles needs to be changed. Anyone who has been affected by a driving death would imagine such a system. It would give disabled and elderly a means to get around. It would reduce the need to purchase oversized vehicles for safety purposes over time. It would reduce the number of traffic violations. The roads would end up needing to be optimized to allow the system to work in all conditions. 30K+ deaths a year make the need a no brainer.