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Biden Slams College Costs At Florida High School, As Campaign Stresses Middle Class Plight

First Posted: 12/ 9/2011 2:26 pm Updated: 03/ 9/2012 3:26 pm

NEPTUNE BEACH, Fla. -- Vice President Joe Biden raised alarms about the rising cost of college to a sympathetic audience of high school students, parents and teachers Thursday, as the Obama 2012 campaign lays out its central theme of saving the middle class.

"A degree is no longer a luxury," Biden said to the audience at Fletcher High School. "The incredible cost of college education is for the first time crushing hundreds of parents."

Biden, who appeared with Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, peppered his speech with personal anecdotes about paying for his and his children's college education. "I come from a family like a lot of [yours], I come from a circumstance where I know how hard it is and how much debt is accumulated by our sons and daughters," Biden said.

As Duncan later told The Huffington Post, "This is a very personal battle for him."

Although Biden never overtly discussed the reelection campaign, he linked the administration's limited accomplishments in the realm of college affordability to the struggles of the middle class, the campaign theme that President Barack Obama recently laid out in Kansas.

"What's happened now is that, as I said today in the speech, my perspective, the president's perspective, is the bottom really fell out of middle class households," Biden told HuffPost in an interview on Air Force II.

The idea to push the middle class education message, he said, arose during budget negotiations with Congress. "When I was asked to try to come up with a budget deal with the Republicans, it amazed me: The first thing they wanted to cut was education," Biden said.

"At the same time, they're saying we've got to maintain tax breaks for the top 1 percent," Biden continued. "The president and I ... said, for real, we gotta do more. We gotta figure this out. That's why we decided to try to tie this in where it is with the plight of middle class families. It's sort of in America's DNA."

Isaiah Kinder, a Fletcher High junior who wants to be a nurse, feels the financial crunch Biden described. "I'm not concerned about getting into college," he said. "I'm concerned about paying for it."

As Biden outlined in his speech, the Obama administration has been chipping away at the issue of college affordability. Pell grants have been expanded, for example, and a $2,500 college tax credit was written into the 2009 stimulus package. But the evidence is still mounting that college, while increasingly important for economic mobility, is becoming a "rich man's" luxury, in Biden's words.

College costs are rising at a rate faster than inflation. States with recession-driven budget holes are cutting funds for and driving up the costs of public universities. Tuition keeps hitting record highs, according to a College Board report. It's now $8,000 for a full credit load at a public university, an 8 percent increase over last year. This year, the $1 trillion in student-loan debt exceeded credit-card debt. The class of 2010 graduated with an average debt of more than $25,000.

In October, as the Occupy Wall Street protests began highlighting the plight of college students, the administration announced some tweaks to help students pay back college loans in a more manageable fashion. The plan allows future graduates to consolidate their federal loans at a slightly lower interest rate. The administration also accelerated an existing plan to cap student loan payments at 10 percent of discretionary income and to forgive remaining college debt after 20 years, instead of 15 percent and 25 years.

But the new loan repayment caps only apply to current and future students, leaving indebted graduates in the lurch.

"We can't make it retroactive," Biden told HuffPost, adding, "The contracts have already been sold. ... Without cooperation, and putting the money in the budget where it should go in the budget, we have some limitations of what we can do." The vice president said that will change when Democrats "win back the House."

Education Secretary Duncan was also on message last week when he talked to financial aid officers at the Federal Student Aid conference about the "urgency" of containing the "spiraling costs of college" and reducing the "burden of student debt." This past Monday, Obama and Duncan discussed affordability with college presidents.

Next, the administration will push a proposal to create incentives for colleges to contain costs. For example, Duncan's 2012 budget proposal includes a new "First in the World" $25 million competition that would reward colleges for reducing their net prices.

Universities "can't continue to look to federal assistance as their way out," Biden said.

But with a gridlocked Congress, it is unclear whether Obama and Biden's efforts can help students pay for college now as much as their rhetoric could help their reelection campaign win the youth vote next year.

"Their chances of getting more money now is about zero," said Jack Jennings, a former Democratic congressional aide who now runs the Center for Education Policy.

Biden acknowledges that "what we can do is make the case to the public."

But students want to see action. "Joe should push in some legislation to help me pay for college," said Kinder, the Fletcher High junior. "We need support."

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NEPTUNE BEACH, Fla. -- Vice President Joe Biden raised alarms about the rising cost of college to a sympathetic audience of high school students, parents and teachers Thursday, as the Obama 2012 campa...
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weebils 08:33 AM on 12/10/2011
My son graduated from college this year and I am so glad because the costs were ridiculous. Every year he was in college there was a big increase and fees were added for everything. Granted I went to college decades ago but the costs were never ever this out of control. On top of it depending on what they study many kids have to buy software in addition to books. Even the student versions of the software is  Read More...
03:53 PM on 12/19/2011
forget universal hc what we need is universal college for all us citizens.
one09flat04
Octogenarian
08:48 PM on 12/17/2011
We have lots and lots of "commentaries" but no solutions! Here's one: Put together an internet
university where all lectures by well regarded professors are on tape and some assistants are given free M.B. classes in return for answering questions! The aim will be to give students the best education and the lowest possible price! You can call it the Rolanhd C. Woodaka Internet University
as a reward for my solution to the current inflationary costs of attending one of the "elite" universities!
Any problems can be solved by others! Roland C. Woodaka
one09flat04
Octogenarian
08:26 PM on 12/17/2011
Joe Biden is right...but he needs to face the music head on! In this economy why are college
professors, assistants, clerks and universirty staff still getting cost of living and performance increases? We might throw school teachers in this mix as through the hiring of experts and top lawyers they also are succeeding in salaries and benefits that allow them to live like Dukes and Duchesses while the rest of the nation work like "scrubeanies" to pay the taxes that pay for their excesses! Of course we believe they should be paid a middle class salary but not the equivalent
of a lottery like windfall so they can live like princes and princesses! Hey Bro! Can you spare a dime? Roland C. Woodaka
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Lloyd Wilson
02:20 PM on 12/14/2011
In India, you can get a first- class degree for a few grand, and not have to learn another language. If I were a HS senior, I would think about a cultural experience..
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07:09 PM on 12/13/2011
Face it. From now on an advanced education is ONLY for the very wealthy.
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10:50 AM on 12/13/2011
Well Joe, you are big on regulations, about people making too much money, costs going out of sight. Put it up Joe, clamp down on the rising costs, cut it to the bone Joe, they have been causing pain for our citizens, cut into them Joe, cut it Joe, make them hurt like we do.
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07:08 PM on 12/13/2011
May be a good idea to keep sharp objects locked up when you are around?

; o }
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AcademicFreedom
Often banned; always factual
09:01 AM on 12/13/2011
Everybody gets a trophy, everybody gets a degree - a "C" is a guarantee. Then, let's regulate CPAs at the federal level so that the exam(s) is/are easier to pass; then, we'll have more CPAs and everyone knows CPAs make pretty good money.
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AcademicFreedom
Often banned; always factual
08:51 AM on 12/13/2011
Joey - take that $24K you get from the government for rental of your guest house and donate it to a university !
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AyeChart
Retired Army, half-retired physician
04:59 PM on 12/12/2011
Some economics student ought to study why college costs so much and SHOUT OUT THE NEWS!

(Hint:  College costs are driven by governmental actions.)
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SRPinPGH
Winter is coming
03:40 PM on 12/12/2011
Look who came out of his bunker, or closet, or wherever Obama's been keeping him to keep him from putting a foot into his mouth in front of a camera.

Welcome to the party, Joe! About time you paid attention to something real, rather than the "jobs summer" fantasy you were last promoting.
02:29 PM on 12/14/2011
Biden has been busy ending the war in iraq....note the news today.
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blitznstitch
BAZINGA!!!
02:11 PM on 12/12/2011
30 years ago, people could work their way through school - they could work part time, borrow very little, and get their bachelors. Today - that is not possible. The competition for jobs is fierce, so you have to study constantly to be at the top of the class. Second, the cost is so high, the part time job barely covers the cost of living or just covers the cost of living. So after grants and scholarships - you have to borrow. Then after you graduate - you hope to find a job but in the meantime - those loans are getting bigger. You move back home to cut costs and work wherever you can just to keep current on your bills. That is what happened to my generation - so many parents were unprepared or simply just did not earn enough to help their kid avoid this mounting debt.
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AcademicFreedom
Often banned; always factual
08:52 AM on 12/13/2011
Also, need to major in something that is marketable.
theaustralian
to the far left of right wing democrats
11:01 AM on 12/12/2011
all the politicians are in the hands of the banks and elite universities, sounds like precampaign blabber to me. but atleast the democrats lie, the republicans say outright they hate the middle class and only love the billionaires.
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SRPinPGH
Winter is coming
03:41 PM on 12/12/2011
Have you got a quotation somewhere that says just that, or are you paraphrasing?
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AyeChart
Retired Army, half-retired physician
05:00 PM on 12/12/2011
Republicans do not say that.  Are you lying or just delusional?
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JubalTHarshaw
Just Passing Through...
08:10 AM on 12/12/2011
How sorry does anyone feel for some idiot who ran up a six figure debt picking up a BA in Gender Studies or Cross Cultural Self Abuse? How many graduates proudly waving degrees that are going to take them a decade to pay off that qualify them the job they had in high school do we need to see before we start recognizing that a huge chunk of the problem is the glut of people who bought into the notion that without a college degree you are a second class citizen. We have a shortage of plumbers, electricians, trim carpenters, HVAC experts and a slew of other high paying trades. There is such a shortage of skilled mechanics (not oil change technicians) that Jay Leno and a group of investors created their own high tech school to train them so that in twenty years we will have people who know how to repair an automobile with a problem that isn’t automatically diagnosed by plugging it into a computer. Colleges are meeting the demands of those who insist that their butts need to be on college classrooms and the cost is being driven by what people are willing to pay. I’ve spoken with an amazing number of young people who think that picking up two years of credits at an acedited community college is beneath them. There's plenty of blame to go around.
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JubalTHarshaw
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08:27 AM on 12/12/2011
"Accredited"; wouldn’t want to run afoul of the Spelling Police…
JStading
Trust me, I'm an attorney...
10:40 AM on 12/12/2011
We actually have way too many HVAC experts, carpenters, and plumbers. There is a massive glut in my local market (St. Louis) and it's causing a mass failure of their businesses because when those people can't get jobs, they throw a decal on the side of their truck and claim to be an independent company. It's really hard times for all those professions. Sure, some businesses have a dearth of people, e.g. machinists, but the depression has shown that companies are firing off people without degrees in droves. A second major problem is that many of the schools have gotten away with what would properly be termed consumer fraud in most other circumstances. Rather than report unemployment rates, many of these colleges and graduate schools simply engage in false advertising and fraud to boost enrollment figures. It's gotten so bad that the American Bar Association looks like its about to lose its ability to accredit law schools and there is a senate investigation into law school advertising that has been launched by Barbara Boxer.
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10:56 AM on 12/13/2011
What is wrong with unemployed people becoming independent contractors?
03:27 AM on 12/12/2011
Cut the federal aid which goes to for profit colleges.
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JubalTHarshaw
Just Passing Through...
08:30 AM on 12/12/2011
Can we cut the federal aid that goes to foreign aid first? After all, we might have sufficient funding for the domestic problems we need to address if we weren't borrowing fifty cents on every dollar that we spend. Just think how much money could be freed up by ending Pax Americana, admitting that the War on Drugs has been a failure, and acknowledging that a huge population of illegal aliens is a drain on the economy not a boon as some would have us believe…
JStading
Trust me, I'm an attorney...
10:41 AM on 12/12/2011
Or allow student loans to be discharged with bankruptcy. That will immediately correct the prices, since banks won't lend to those nonsensical schools.
04:02 PM on 12/12/2011
Why shouldnt the students just pay for what the received. The did receive the education promised, correct?
12:34 AM on 12/12/2011
The cost of higher education is way to high and Biden is correct on this one, Independent voter.
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JubalTHarshaw
Just Passing Through...
08:34 AM on 12/12/2011
Education costs respond to market pressures. We need to stop teaching our students that they need a college degree to be either successful or happy. Deciding to go to college is an economic question that needs to be addressed with eyes wide open. To invest years of time in a seat obtaining a piece of paper that won’t get you a job and that will take you decades to pay off is a stupid decision.
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SparkyDash
Save a pretzel for the gas jets.
10:41 PM on 12/12/2011
Rubbish...
02:56 PM on 12/13/2011
Sure, even if you do get the degree, you might not get the job.

But if you don't get the degree, you probably won't even get the interview.

That's just how it works now, even for some entry-level unskilled positions where the idea of requiring a level of formal education is laughable.