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George Soros Buys $2 Billion Of MF Global's Europe Bonds

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The Huffington Post   First Posted: 12/09/11 12:43 PM ET Updated: 12/09/11 12:43 PM ET

Safe to say George Soros isn't scared off by a little risk.

The billionaire investor bought about $2 billion worth of European bonds formerly owned by now-bankrupt MF Global -- the same debt that pushed the firm to collapse, according to The Wall Street Journal. KPMG, MF Global's bankruptcy administrator in London, offered the firm's leftover European debt to a variety of big investors and most passed, but Soros decided to buy, getting the bonds at below market price.

While some may take Soros' decision to buy the bonds as a vote of confidence in Europe, he said earlier this week that European debt crisis is putting the global financial system in a "self-reinforcing process of disintegration." Borrowing costs for Italy and Spain recently hit record highs and interest rates on 10-year bonds of countries such as France and Belgium, which are considered more financially sound, spiked last month.

MF Global filed for bankruptcy on October 31 after its risky position on European debt pushed the firm to collapse. Jon Corzine resigned as the MF Global CEO shortly after its fall and the company got rid of more than 1,000 employees. Corzine ducked responsibility for the collapse in Congressional testimony yesterday, while admitting that he didn't know where customers' missing money is.

This is far from the first big risk taken by the 81-year old Soros. He garnered fame for his risk taking when in 1992 he risked $10 billion on a single bet against the British pound and turned out to be right.

Soros, who has an estimated net worth of $14.2 billion, returned an average 30.5 percent per year on his investments between 1969 and 2000, according to Seeking Alpha. The billionaire investor even took home an 8 percent in 2008, a notoriously bad year for hedge funds.

Investors put such weight on Soros's decisions that his investments have the ability to move markets. He dumped almost all of his $800 million stake in gold in the first quarter of this year as some other hedge funds did the same. A commodities slump followed later in the year, which some blamed in part on reports that Soros was liquidating his holdings.

But Soros isn't the only famous billionaire making seemingly risky bets. Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway invested $5 billion in Bank of America in August in exchange for special shares of stock. After the deal was announced, BofA’s stock priced surged, signaling that investors saw Buffett’s move as a vote of confidence in the bank.

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Safe to say George Soros isn't scared off by a little risk. The billionaire investor bought about $2 billion worth of European bonds formerly owned by now-bankrupt MF Global -- the same debt that ...
Safe to say George Soros isn't scared off by a little risk. The billionaire investor bought about $2 billion worth of European bonds formerly owned by now-bankrupt MF Global -- the same debt that ...
 
 
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11:58 AM on 02/01/2012
Global Debt Crisis

The greatest private fraud of human history.
Who are the great fraudsters who are becoming the murderers of the human kind? How does the economy "illness" threaten Democracy and the freedom of people?

http://eamb-ydrohoos.blogspot.com/2012/01/global-debt-crisis.html
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By knowing what happened in indebted Greece, where loan sharks created “bubbles” and the current inhuman debt, one can understand the inhuman plan in total ...understand where this plan started just to bring all states at the same end ...understand how this type of plans are established...

Authored by PANAGIOTIS TRAIANOU
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drbob601
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04:23 PM on 12/13/2011
"We already knew previously that shortly after it filed for bankruptcy, George Soros bought $2 billion in Italian bonds from the bankrupt MF Global....Today, the WSJ has disclosed another facet of the bankruptcy which like Lehman will expose gigabytes of dirt on the corrupt US financial system. Namely, that after liquidating, MF Global sold Italian bonds....to none other than JP Morgan and "one large hedge fund."So far so good. Where it gets disturbing is that as the WSJ discloses, "buyers paid about 89 cents on the dollar for the Italian bonds, compared with a market price of about 94 cents at the time, according to the trader who bought them...Today, those bonds trade at more than 96 cents, according to Tradeweb." Our question is first, why did the bankrupt MF Global estate proceed to unload post-filing assets and under whose discretion: after all, the company had entered bankruptcy, and it is up to the estate, which includes bondholders and other stakeholders to determine what assets and under what conditions, can be liquidated....if the firm did not get prior-permission form a bankruptcy judge to liquidate these assets, this is an act far worse than commingling and even the firesale of Lehman's US Brokerage to Barclays for pennies on the dollar - this is flaunting bankruptcy law front and center."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/who-gave-permission-bankrupt-mf-global-sell-italian-bonds-jpm-5-discount-market-value
08:08 AM on 12/13/2011
Buffett and Soros are both supporters, big supporters, of Obama so you know there are many facts under the sheet we will never know. Buying of the Global bonds and support for BOA will boost Obama's position and never forget the political donations ...
This smells bad
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Smarty5
Buy land, they're not making it anymore.
09:33 PM on 12/12/2011
Well, he bought them at deep discount cos of panic selling and now because of the european treaty and stuff the price would go up. Easy money for him.
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imusintheevening
With,without,who'll deny it's whatthe fights about
08:07 PM on 12/12/2011
One thing I learned trading futures was you can be 100% right about the trend, but if you blow the timing, you can loose big.
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Charles Queen
I am a disabled nam vet
05:59 PM on 12/12/2011
Meanwhile everyone is still waiting to find out what happened to the billion(s) that they some how lost?I don't care how big a company or cooporation may get ,their gonnaknow if the lose a billion or so and their also going to know what happened to it and or where it went to.Corzine I believe is stil trying to play mr.innocent but i think it won't be much longer until the truth about the missing money comes to a head
11:12 AM on 12/12/2011
DUH!!!!! No we're seeing the kind of people who are manufactruing this CRISIS, and who are thereby benefitting from it. JUST FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!!!
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09:49 AM on 12/12/2011
George Soros is Hungarian, his Open Foundation is everywhere in Eastern and Central Europe...he knows these markets, which, with the exception of Hungary, are actually the motor and future motor of a more integrated Europe. Read on here: www.huffingtonpost.com/vivian-norris-de-montaigu/optimism-for-the-euro-and_b_1143029.html
rdk70816
Yellowhammer
09:21 AM on 12/12/2011
Now that he has his patsy in office as president, he can do pretty much as he pleases.
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Roy E Pearson
A man in search of the right questions.
11:08 AM on 12/12/2011
Who is the President of Europe? MF Global is an international company - hence the Global in its name. These bonds are European debt and the Administrator is in London. I know it is hard to digest, but today everything is not about the USA. Get used to that. The center of political and economic gravity is moving to the east of the US.
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authorized-user
No right way to do a wrong thing
08:44 AM on 12/12/2011
Soros is ready to ring the register again with his short positions on Europe. He knows they won't do anything to fix their mess.
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Greg Logan
01:23 AM on 12/12/2011
I don't get what is evil about George - other than he is Beck's whipping boy... But is that a basis??
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Roy E Pearson
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11:10 AM on 12/12/2011
Nor do I.
08:27 PM on 12/12/2011
Maybe because he is a convicted Felon one who has used tragedies like 9-11 to amass a fortune by shorting markets that he directly influences? Just Google this creep...
JB1977
My micro bio is empty
12:30 PM on 12/13/2011
A convicted felon? It was insider trading in a French court. Spare me the fake outrage.
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Greg Logan
04:02 PM on 12/13/2011
Is he a creep because you don't like his politics??? Sounds like a regular good ol' boy capitalist to me.... What's not to luv?
12:04 AM on 12/12/2011
What bet - Obama, the Federal Reserve and friends will put up taxpayer dollars to make sure that 'Ole George' makes a bundle on this. Just look at the next article.
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Steelsil
Alan Grayson for President!
02:08 AM on 12/12/2011
OK, name just one deal of Soros' that was paid for by taxpayers money.  Then tell us about Shrub's little gift to the US, TARP.
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Roy E Pearson
A man in search of the right questions.
11:23 AM on 12/12/2011
There isn't any. This is just the rambling of people who listen to Fox, Beck, and Limbaugh. The get a little bit of information and a lot of misinformation and think they know something.

These bonds are European Debt, that means that they are held by Europeans. These Dealing are in England.
01:10 PM on 12/12/2011
Watch the IMF bailout.
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1776 or 1984
IT'S AN EMPIRE, NOT A REPUBLIC!
09:27 AM on 12/11/2011
I don't trust this guy at all, just like the Kochs
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Steelsil
Alan Grayson for President!
02:09 AM on 12/12/2011
Between 1979 and 2011, Soros gave away over $8 billion to human rights, public health, and education causes.
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authorized-user
No right way to do a wrong thing
08:45 AM on 12/12/2011
Just like the Koch's did, right?
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1776 or 1984
IT'S AN EMPIRE, NOT A REPUBLIC!
10:17 AM on 12/12/2011
Good tax write-offs and is a high-society thing to do. I still haven't found a good explanation from anyone why he invested in the rise of GWB through Harken Energy, along with some dubious characters from Marco's Philippines and Saudi Arabia.

Could this guy be a gate-keeper on the left. You know, you should never be too happy that billionaires have so much power over one's movements, elections, action groups, etc. How much power do the rich folks' foundations have over public discourse and what gets acted upon? Quite too much IMO.
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1776 or 1984
IT'S AN EMPIRE, NOT A REPUBLIC!
09:27 AM on 12/11/2011
catastrophe
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Steelsil
Alan Grayson for President!
02:11 AM on 12/12/2011
Soros immigrated to England in 1947 and, as an impoverished student, lived with his uncle, an Orthodox Jew. His uncle paid his living expenses while he attended the London School of Economics, where he received a Bachelor of Science in Philosophy in 1952.[19] While a student of the philosopher Karl Popper, Soros worked as a railway porter and as a waiter. A University tutor requested aid for Soros, and he received GB£40 from a Religious Society of Friends (Quaker) charity.
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Pooter1
09:23 AM on 12/12/2011
And what about prior to 1947?

As a Jew that lived in Europe during WWII that managed to live through the Holocaust, I would think this would be the most interesting part of his bio.
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1776 or 1984
IT'S AN EMPIRE, NOT A REPUBLIC!
09:26 AM on 12/11/2011
1%
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Obrand
liberalis
03:35 PM on 12/11/2011
He's probably a 0.1%er
But then if you want to follow money, he's been pretty darn successful.
12:05 AM on 12/12/2011
Yep - where are the 'Occupiers'?
JB1977
My micro bio is empty
12:38 PM on 12/13/2011
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02:44 PM on 05/25/2012
3.1428571428571428571428571428571e-7%er is about the most accurate estimate I can come up with. (7 billion estimated people on the planet as of March this year, George Soros is the 22nd richest man on the planet (Forbes)) 22/7 billion = 3.1428571428571428571428571428571e-9, multiply by 100 to get percentage.