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Virginia Tech Shooting: Investigators Say Gunman Committed Suicide, Not Connected To University

Virginia Tech Shootings

BOB LEWIS and ZINIE CHEN SAMPSON   12/ 9/11 10:50 PM ET   AP

BLACKSBURG, Va. — A dean's list student who killed a Virginia Tech police officer had no ties to the university and did not know the patrolman, authorities said Friday without offering a motive for a crime spree that spanned two days and ended in suicide.

Ross Truett Ashley, 22, first drew authorities' attention when he robbed his landlord's office at gunpoint Wednesday. He took the keys to a Mercedes-Benz sport utility vehicle later found in Blacksburg, home to Virginia Tech, about 10 miles away.

Ashley, a part-time business student at Radford University, was described by those who knew him as a typical college student, though he could be quiet and standoffish. He liked to run down the hallways and recently shaved his head, a neighbor said.

Police said he walked up to officer Deriek W. Crouse on Thursday and shot him to death as the patrolman sat in his unmarked cruiser in the midst of a traffic stop. Ashley was not involved in the stop and did not know the driver, police said.

Ashley then took off for the campus greenhouses, ditching his pullover, wool cap and backpack as police sent out a campus-wide alert that a gunman was on the loose, terrorizing students on a campus still coping with the nation's worst mass slaying in recent memory.

A deputy sheriff on patrol noticed a man acting suspicious in a parking lot about a half-mile from the shooting. The deputy drove up and down the rows of the sprawling Cage parking lot and lost sight of the man for a moment, then found Ashley shot to death on the pavement.

Ashley lived in an apartment on top floor of a gray, three-story brick building that looked a little beaten up on the outside.

On Friday night, students popped in and out of the building visiting friends. Mandy Adams, a Radford grad student, said had Ashley had recently shaved his head. Other than running down the hallways, he was quiet, she said.

"He would just run down the hallway, never walk, always run," said Adams, who was out on a rear fire escape with a glass of white wine and a cigarette to calm her nerves. "It's going to be really creepy when they come to take his stuff out of here."

Ashley's apartment was above a yogurt shop, consignment store, barber shop and a tattoo parlor. It overlooked the business section of Radford's main drag.

Neighbor Nan Forbes, a Radford senior, said he was rarely seen or heard from. She said she knew he was in trouble when she saw two police officers guarding the door to Ashley's apartment

"It does freak us out because we live in this building, but there was not one peep of trouble, nothing unusual," she said.

Ashley made the dean's list in 2008 at the University of Virginia-Wise, which is located in southwest Virginia. Officials at Radford or UVA-Wise were not immediately able to talk in detail about Ashley.

At the Virginia Tech campus, thousands of people silently filled the Drillfield for a candlelight vigil Friday night to remember Crouse, a firearms and defense instructor with a specialty in crisis intervention. He had been on the force for four years, joining about six months after a student gunman killed 32 and himself on April 16, 2007.

The vigil included a moment of silence and later closed with two trumpeters stationed across the field from each other playing "Echo Taps" as students raised their candles.

"Let's go!" one student then shouted. "Hokies!" everyone else responded.

Kathleen O'Dwyer, a fifth-year engineering majors, said it was important to come for Crouse's family.

"Also it's for the community, to see the violence that happens isn't what we're about," said O'Dwyer, who will be graduating next week.

Her plans when she leaves school?

"First, go home and hug my mom," O'Dwyer said.

Nobody answered the door at Ashley's parents' home in Spotsylvania County in the northern part of the state. The house was dark and no vehicles were in the driveway. The two-story, log cabin-style home in a semi-rural area sits about 200 yards off the road up a narrow gravel drive.

Billie Jo Phillippe, who lives three houses down, said she didn't really associate with the family.

"They stay off to themselves a lot," she said. "He was a clean-cut young guy but standoffish."

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Lewis reported from Radford. Associated Press writers Michael Felberbaum, Larry O'Dell, Steve Szkotak and Dena Potter in Richmond, Va., Brock Vergakis in Norfolk and Eric Tucker in Washington contributed to this report.

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Police officials examine the body of a police officer shot to death in a parking lot on the campus of Virginia Tech, Thursday, Dec. 8, 2011, in Blacksburg, Va. The school said a police officer pulled someone over for a traffic stop and was shot and killed. The shooter ran toward a nearby parking lot, where a second person was found dead. It was the first gunfire on campus since 33 people were killed in 2007 in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history. (AP Photo/Don Petersen)
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04:59 AM on 12/15/2011
Isnt it weird that nobody ask why guns are so good? They are there for feeling safe . Great how you manage that.We in europ must manage the copycats but lucky we have much better ways to control guns.So less in the hands from weird ppl and as result much less abuse from guns. See the latest results from those NY researchers.They can buy guns even when they are not alowed to buy it. So good luck. The news media loves the freedom in the USA.Plenty to write and video about in the future.
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JimInHouston
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12:47 PM on 12/15/2011
"So less in the hands from weird ppl and as result much less abuse from guns."

Yes, but your violent crime rate is equal to or higher than hours. In the UK, it's not even legal to fight back.
01:59 PM on 12/15/2011
I guess it never occurred to you... that psychopath bent in killing others will always go to gun-free zone... Could it be because they don't want any body to fight back.

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And yes, things are so much better in Europe, you're lunatic are using hand grenades!

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PS: The next time the disarmed population of Europe is taken over by some lunatic leader and his army... You can fight them off yourself. We saved your but twice, we are not doing it a 3rd time.
09:41 PM on 12/16/2011
Did you safed us? Or was it selfprotection. Dont forget you ''safed'' us only 1 time. Get your history right. And the second time as you named it was bc you was attacked. First we asked but the USA didnt want to fight in Europ. And a 3th time i think we may safe your but. And the lunatic was indeed bad. but it was not Holland. We had it a few months before. A copycat that started shooting in a mal. Yes. Thats why we dont like and want guns in oure community.
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11:44 AM on 12/12/2011
This was very tragic for all involved.It was thoughtfull of the gunmans family to call and extend their sympathy to the slain officers family.It was not their fault he blew a head gasket over which nobody still doesn't know was all about.He committed suicide and was not killed by police.Very tragic indeed
05:22 AM on 12/12/2011
Hmm. Right. But its a one type of blank minded terrorist. So, always shout this type minded person.Top MBA Colleges in India
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rewith85man
01:11 AM on 12/10/2011
I swear that school is cursed. It won't surprise me if it attracts more nutjobs.
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05:15 AM on 12/10/2011
These shootings are so disheartening to me--I received three graduate degrees in education there. Blacksburg is not like that. It was a nice, desirable educational community.
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delatierra
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07:33 AM on 12/10/2011
He wasn't a Virginia Tech student. He was a student at Radford University, about 10 miles away. The article states this.
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10:41 AM on 12/10/2011
Yabbut, the shooting happened AT Virginia Tech. That's the curse.
11:46 PM on 12/09/2011
What is with people these days... Got a problem? Solution: go postal!! Someones bullying me! solution: kill myself!! Someone gotta teach these kids to not be so Damn selfish. When you kill someone you wound the whole community, when you kill yourself, You hurt your friends and family far more than any bully could hurt you. Life is just too cheap these days.
08:29 AM on 12/10/2011
I agree. What really upsets me is killing someone else when all you wanted to do was kill yourself. Why do these people feel the need to take innocent people with them? It's really sad.
01:45 PM on 12/10/2011
Its a symptom of complete self absorption where nothing in their life is as important as themselves and their feelings. Not their family, their friends nothing trumps the poor me feelings. When people think about others first they are less likely to be depressed or be mean. My grandmother spent most of her life doing things for others and she lived to be 102 naturally despite having lost a lung to TB in her teens. Gotta be something in that charity work that makes you healthy physically and mentally lol
07:46 PM on 12/10/2011
To sarac comment: Why do these people feel the need to take innocent people with them?
I have thought about that exact question many times. . .trying to reason it out for myself and I think that they are so over whelmed for whatever reason that is going on in thier life that they rationalize (no way saying that it is right) and some how come to the decision that they will not be able to live if they actually do take another life. Not they really want to, but, it is giving them the strength somehow to actually take thier own life. knowing that they have comitted such a terrible act that they have to die.

Why else would someone who has never behaved in such a way do such a horrible thing?
And then. . . my next question is to the family.
What was going on?
Something was.
10:29 PM on 12/09/2011
Just so very sad, way too many troubled children in America.
09:57 PM on 12/09/2011
I also question what is the point of the State of Virginia having a conceled and carry law if you can't cary a gun on campus? Obviously, this is where two nasty shootings occured.

For those of you have commented that "well we need more restrictions on guns because a cop got shot or that the cop had a gun and see it didn't do him any good."

But you're missing the point, put yourself in the cops shoes. He's writing a ticket, even if he has his seat belt off he has a stearing wheel in front of him that he is most likely using as makeshift dest, he has a computer terminal to one side next to his radio console, which he also monitors as he looks of DMV info on the computer for assistance on information to put down on the ticket. It would be very difficult to pull out your own gun in defense with all of that other stuff in the way. Seconly, I doubt that even if he could have "drawn" the shooter was already in his face. He was dead from the get go.
09:47 PM on 12/09/2011
Ashley has been identified by Radford City Police as the individual responsible for the theft of a white 2011 Mercedes SUV from a real estate office in the City of Radford on Dec. 7, 2011. The Mercedes was stolen at gunpoint at approximately 11:25 a.m. Wednesday from Gilbert Real Estate in the 600 block of Calhoun Street. A male entered the business armed with a handgun and demanded the keys to an employee’s vehicle. No one in the real estate office was injured. The subject got away in the SUV, which was located the next day (Dec. 8) on the Smart Road at Virginia Tech. At the time of the armed robbery, Radford City Police had issued a multi-state “Be On the Lookout” (BOL) for the stolen vehicle. When Blacksburg Police responded to a call of an abandoned vehicle on the Smart Road on Dec. 8, they immediately notified Radford City Police of its recovery.

My question is where is Smart road in relation to the place where the officer was shot? Did the officer by chance see this guy and not realize that he was a wanted individual? Or was it that Ashley felt the game was up upon being eyed by the cop so he decides to simply "do" him as his best chance of escape?
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08:10 AM on 12/13/2011
This article by Virginia Tech's Collegiate Times shows where the "smart road" is, with the blue pointer on the right just over Yellow Sulpher Springs Rd. The three blue pointers clustered in Blacksburg are at Tech, and the 2 on the lower left in Radford show where the shooter was from. For some reason this doesn't show scale, but if you click on the word "Google" in the bottom left corner, it takes you to a larger map, and it's about 5 miles to campus from Transportation Research Drive, which is the real name of the "smart road." It's not between Blacksburg and Radford, it's not a public roadway, and I think the only access point is from the Industrial Park. Last I heard, we still don't know why he ditched the SUV there. It's doubtful Officer Crouse would have recognized Ashley in the few seconds it took for him to walk up from the side and shoot the officer while he was sitting in his car, probably focused on processing the info of the driver he'd pulled over.

http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stories/18971/alleged-shooter-identified-as-ross-ashley
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07:57 PM on 12/09/2011
It is right time for police forces across the country act and react to gun control policies. The money they make in salaries are not equal to their chances of early death. So please show some guts and tell your Senators and Governors to stop the attacks on security forces by banning hand guns, and restricting sale of lethal weapons only to sane people who have to re register every to years. Or keep the guns in their homes or near by police station or gun clubs except when hunting.
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08:39 PM on 12/09/2011
Quite frankly we are more likely to die in a vehicle mishap during a pursuit or while responding than be shot during a confrontation. Most of us support the Second Amendment/individual right to arms and support concealed carry with permits and oppose things like registration.
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05:23 AM on 12/10/2011
Yes, especially as we see more and more police brutality and more and more of a police state. There may come a day when we will have to once again fight for our freedom to exist as a free people. The first thing a police state does is disarm the populace. Our constitution guarantees an armed populace as an incentive for the government not to go overboard, and to ensure that the people can protect themselves from either the government going crazy and trying to become a police state, or against an invasion by a foreign force. At least with guns, we could take to the hills and resist. That may sound crazy to someone who's always been an American, but it doesn't sound crazy to the many Irish, Jews, Saudis, Syrians, Lithuanians, Latvians, Poles, and others who were helpless to defend themselves against an oppressor. We call it the "Great Irish Lesson" in my family - the Irish had no way to defend themselves, so the English burned us out of our homes and land, raped our women, starved our population to the tune of 10 million dead, and we could do NOTHING. They shipped ALL the food crops to England. The killed our horses, singers, dancers..intellectuals. Let's not forget the lessons learned through history and through many of those who immigrated to the US in order to be able to keep their freedoms.
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Michael Steaphens
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02:05 AM on 12/10/2011
None of the things you suggested will work.Nuff said...
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Mollyj
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06:17 PM on 12/09/2011
I will guess that the second victim will be the owner of the get-away car! What I mean is, he is still out there!

Could we verify that the second victim had a car (stolen or not), in his position at that time? Where's that car?
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Kid Notorious
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05:52 PM on 12/09/2011
A very tragic situation... But this just strikes me as a non-VTU suburban white kid who thought life gave him a raw deal, unlike 2007 where the kid just was a psycho...
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SkyhawkIIAimer
"How many more like him are out there?"
05:20 PM on 12/09/2011
There is a reason that we don't allow unmarked police vehicles to make traffic stops in California.

The reason is spelled out in "The Onion Field".

Don't know if the unmarked car played a part, but it's pretty bad police procedure to use unmarked cars for traffic stops.
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11:01 PM on 12/09/2011
I don't think the unmarked car played a role since the officer was in uniform.
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SkyhawkIIAimer
"How many more like him are out there?"
11:47 PM on 12/09/2011
Perhaps not is this case, but traffic stops in unmarked vehicles are terrible police technique.

When he's in the car, you can't see much of his uniform.
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Jeff McConnell
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08:36 PM on 12/10/2011
Hundreds, if not thousands of police departments around the country use unmarked cars for traffic stops. What makes you feel qualified to criticize police procedure?
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SkyhawkIIAimer
"How many more like him are out there?"
08:01 PM on 12/12/2011
I have studied the problem.

So has the State of California. The most populous state.

They found that unmarked cars shouldn't be used for traffic stops.

The smart guys know it's a bad idea. I listen to the smart guys.

Why don't you?
05:11 PM on 12/09/2011
go to a NRA convention and drop a bunch of those Popping fireworks...

...after a couple of conventions, the NRA would be no more.
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07:49 PM on 12/09/2011
I doubt you would get the response you expect.
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Jeff McConnell
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08:46 PM on 12/10/2011
...or perhaps he wouldn't be around to see the results.
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08:30 PM on 12/09/2011
Do you have anything worth-while to post? Or do you just like hearing yourself blather!

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05:08 PM on 12/09/2011
That's odd, I just heard on my local news he stole the car from Roanoke.
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SkyhawkIIAimer
"How many more like him are out there?"
06:36 PM on 12/09/2011
A German Car. Let's blame them and OWS.
05:07 PM on 12/09/2011
There is a reason he killed that cop... otherwise I think he would have killed or tried to kill more people, there is something we are being left in the dark about here...
08:21 PM on 12/13/2011
Agree with you, it doesn't make much sense... Maybe he just had an axe to grind with the "authority", and that officer was just at the wrong place at the wrong time.