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Mitt Romney Challenges Rick Perry To $10,000 Bet At Iowa Debate (VIDEO)

First Posted: 12/10/2011 9:31 pm Updated: 12/12/2011 7:54 am

Mitt Romney is tired of hearing about the change made to his book that touts Massachusetts' CommonWealth Care as a "model for the nation." But Rick Perry keeps bringing it up. So Romney proposed a $10,000 wager -- perhaps unprecedented in presidential debates, although we'll wait for Gingrich to provide the historical background.

Romney asked the Texas governor if he'd wager $10,000 to settle a dispute over his healthcare record and where he stood on the individual mandate.

"I'm just saying, you're for individual mandates, my friend," Perry said to Romney.

"You've raised that before, Rick, and you're simply wrong," Romney responded, extending his hand toward Perry. "Rick, I'll tell you what: 10,000 bucks?"

Sadly, Perry didn't want to take the bet, so we never got to learn what the terms were exactly. Instead, Romney quoted from the chapter in which he said that every state should have the opportunity to make its own health care plan.

My colleague Ryan Grim quips: "How many people have you met who casually make $10,000 bets?" It's pretty "1 percent," if you ask me.

To put the amount in perspective, according to a tweet from West Wing Report, "The $10K bet Romney offered to make represents three months pay for most Americans."

Conservatives didn't hold back on jokes directed at the wealthy Romney. Jonah Goldberg of the National Review tweeted that "Romney promises that his butler will 'personally deliver' $10,000 check if he loses," which was quickly retweeted by RedState's Erick Erickson.

Jonathan Martin, who covers the GOP race for Politico, also pounced. "Who among us doesn't wager $10K at a time?" he tweeted.

People on both sides of the aisle took to Twitter after Romney made the bet, with many claiming Romney had given Democrats another opportunity to hit on his personal fortune.

More historical debate gaffes:

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  • 'The Stumble'

    Texas Governor Rick Perry's <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/09/rick-pery-forgets-federal-agencies_n_1085312.html" target="_hplink">inability to remember</a> the third agency he would cut as president had many predicting the untimely end of his campaign for president. Perry addressed his mental lapse before reporters after the debate, admitting, "Yeah I stepped in it man. Yeah it was embarrassing. Of course it was."

  • Romney's '$10,000 Bet'

    During a GOP primary debate in late 2011, Romney sought to put an end to then-presidential candidate Rick Perry's insistance that Romneycare was the basis of President Barack Obama's health care reform law. Perry launched in with an attack that he'd repeated before: "I'm just saying, you're for individual mandates, my friend," Perry said. "You've raised that before, Rick, and you're simply wrong," Romney responded, extending his hand toward Perry. "Rick, I'll tell you what: 10,000 bucks? $10,000 bet?" Perry declined, nothing that he wasn't a betting man, leaving Romney to quote a chapter from his book that he cited as proof he had never intended for his health care plan to be used as a national model.

  • Bachmann On Libya, Africa

    At a GOP primary debate in October of 2011, Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/18/michele-bachmann-libya-africa_n_1018814.html" target="_hplink">criticized</a> Obama's foreign policy decisions. "Now with the president, he put us in Libya," she said. "He is now putting us in Africa. We already were stretched too thin, and he put our special operations forces in Africa." Libya is, in fact, a country in Africa.

  • Awkward Silence

    During a 2010 gubernatorial debate, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/02/jan-brewer-starts-badly-f_n_703559.html" target="_hplink">struggled to name</a> any of her accomplishments while introducing herself. "We have ... done so much ... We have um, did what was right for Arizona," she squeezed out after a long silent pause.

  • Can't Name Any Supreme Court Cases

    Christine O'Donnell was unable to name a single recent Supreme Court decision she disagreed with, when asked by moderator Nancy Karibjanian during a 2010 Delaware Senate debate. <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/13/christine-odonnell-stumped-supreme-court-debate_n_762067.html" target="_hplink">The dialogue</a>: <blockquote><strong>KARIBJANIAN</strong>: What opinions, of late, that have come from our high court, do you most object to? <strong>O'DONNELL</strong>: Oh, gosh. Um, give me a specific one. I'm sorry. <strong>KARIBJANIAN</strong>: Actually, I can't, because I need you to tell me which ones you object to. <strong>O'DONNELL</strong>: Um, I'm very sorry, right off the top of my head, I know that there are a lot, but I'll put it up on my website, I promise you.</blockquote>

  • Can I Call You Joe?

    When Sarah Palin and Joe Biden shook hands at the start of a 2008 vice presidential debate, Palin asked then then-Senator "Hey, Can I call you Joe?" "You can call me Joe," Biden replied. Palin <a href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0110/Two_versions_of_Can_I_call_you_Joe.html" target="_hplink">evidently kept confusing</a> then-Senator Joe Biden's last name with President Barack Obama's, referring to the VP candidate repeatedly as "O'Biden" in debate prep. Her staffers suggested she call him by his first name.

  • Change You Can Xerox

    Hilary Clinton's attempt at a jab toward President Barack Obama got her booed by the audience during a 2008 presidential debate. Clinton accused Obama of plagiarism in his popular speeches, saying "Lifting whole passages from someone else's speeches is not change you can believe in, it's change you can Xerox."

  • 'Likable Enough'

    During a Democratic presidential primary debate in early 2008, then-candidate Hillary Clinton was being pressed on surveys that suggested New Hampshire voters appreciated her resume, but found then-Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) more likable. Clinton appeared to feign insult, drawing sympathetic applause and smiles from the crowd. "Well, that hurts my feelings," she said. "But I'll try to go on. "He's very likable," Clinton continued of Obama. "I agree with that. I don't think I'm that bad." Obama took a brief break from scribbling notes to weigh in. "You're likable enough, Hillary," Obama said tersely, not making eye contact with Clinton. He then returned to his notepad.

  • Al Gore's Sighing

    A 2000 presidential debate seriously hurt Al Gore's campaign when the cutaway shots caught him rolling his eyes and sighing audibly during George W. Bush's answers. Critics say behavior made Gore look elitist and unlikable in contrast with Bush's relaxed and folksy demeanor. Jon Stewart mocks Gore's sighs in The Daily Show clip above.

  • Let Me Finish

    Ross Perot may go down in history for his repeated interruptions of "let me finish" during a 1992 presidential debate. The behavior became fodder for SNL comedian Dana Carvey's Perot impression.

  • Glancing At His Watch

    George H. W. Bush was caught glancing at his watch during a 1992 presidential debate with Bill Clinton and Ross Perot. The now-famous move damaged Bush's campaign, making him look bored and impatient, <a href="http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2008/01/17/a-damaging-impatience" target="_hplink">reports say</a>. Bush snuck at peek at his watch again during his daughter-in-law Laura Bush's speech at the Republican convention in 2008.

  • Who Am I? Why Am I Here?

    When Independent Presidential candidate Ross Perot picked Vietnam War hero Admiral James Stockdale for his VP nominee, it created a rare three-person Vice Presidential debate in 1992. Stockdale was not a politician and not very well known. Attempting to introduce itself and poke some fun at this, he chose as his opening statement: "Who am I? Why am I here?" Stockdale later said he hoped to follow up the remarks with an explanation of his life, but never got to that point. Instead, the line left viewers wondering the same thing.

  • Dispassionate Death Penalty Response

    When the moderator of a 1988 presidential debate asked Governor Michael Dukakis if he would support the death penalty if his wife, Kitty Dukakis, was raped and murdered, Dukakis dispassionately responded, "No, I don't, Bernard, and I think you know that I've opposed the death penalty during all of my life." He then continued to talk about his stance. Some believe the lack of emotion or passion for the hypothetical situation cost Dukakis the election.

  • You're No Jack Kennedy

    In the 1988 Vice Presidential debate between Democratic VP candidate Senator Lloyd Bentsen and Republican VP candidate Senator Dan Quayle, Quayle was asked if his qualifications were sufficient to inherit the presidency, should it come to that. Quayle responded by comparing his experience level Jack Kennedy's experience level when he sought the presidency. The comparison prompted Bensten to say: "Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy." Quayle responded, "That was really uncalled for Senator."

  • No Soviet Domination

    In the 1976 presidential debate between Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford, Ford famously stated "There is no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe." The remark came in response to a question about U.S. relations with the Soviet Union, a major concern in the Cold War era, and didn't sit well with an increasingly anti-Soviet public. Ford refused to back down from the claim even after the somewhat baffled debate moderator responded, "I'm sorry, what? ... Did I understand you to say, sir, that the Russians are not using Eastern Europe as their own sphere of influence in occupying most of the countries there and making sure with their troops that it's a communist zone?"

  • Sickly Nixon vs. Fit JFK

    The 1960 presidential debate between John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon was the first nationally televised debate in the U.S. and <a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2021078,00.html" target="_hplink">is thought to have</a> changed politics forever. The debate was historically declared a win for Kennedy by those who watched it on TV, and a win for Nixon for those who listened to it on the radio. Though the candidates were both strong on the issues, the visibly sweating Nixon looked sickly and pale compared to the young and fit Kennedy.

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msgirlintn 01:12 AM on 12/11/2011
That 10k would go a long way to help people put food on their tables and have gifts for their kids for Christmas. There was a food giveaway in my city yesterday and people started lining up at 2 am in 25 degree weather to make sure they were in line when the giveaway didn't start until like 9 am. They were wrapped around the building. All those interviewed had the same story -- they needed food to feed  Read More...
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dvand22
moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.
12:34 PM on 12/18/2011
The best things in life are free
you can keep them for the birds and bees
give me money
tha'ts what I want

Hey it was good enough for Smokey and for The Beatles, it's good enough for me.
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SteveDenver
Progressive and liberal, just like Jesus Christ.
01:38 AM on 12/15/2011
If Mitt wins the nomination and is elected President, the Oval Office will be converted to a casino where international high stakes players can try their hand at winning pieces of America!
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elblanc0
Whatever good things we build end up building us.
04:38 PM on 12/14/2011
Wow, glad you two can so cavalierly throw around that kind of money on a friendly wager in this economy. Is this what we can expect from your fiscal policy as well?
02:30 PM on 12/14/2011
So Mitt Romney is rich. He can't be president?
02:27 PM on 12/14/2011
So he's made a lot of money by working hard and managing it well. What's the big deal. You guys telling him how he has to spend his own money now?
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SteveDenver
Progressive and liberal, just like Jesus Christ.
01:42 AM on 12/15/2011
"rubesbyu" Does this mean you're a rube from BYU (Brigham Young University)?
10:48 PM on 12/13/2011
I bet you a million dollars this is about as relevant as most of the crap posted here.
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Steve Faria
08:25 PM on 12/13/2011
I think anyone who's had a childhood has said 'wanna bet' about 10,000 times. The story is ridiculous; the bet is as unprovocative as can be. The hand was extended with a ludicrous value to just get Perry to back up his words. If the challenge isn't taken, who do you think won?

The rabble in twitterdom caused a stir, media types see chum in the water and begin salivating. Alas it's just Romney in the surf, not a delightsome sea lion. But let's just say we got the real thing and let the public believe there is flesh on the menu again. Sharks gather in. Ignorance reigns because the RINO simply must be defeated!

The press has categorized Perry's accusation as false many times since Saturday's debate closed. This goes unmentioned however because by golly there's a new menu item.
01:57 PM on 12/13/2011
I wish the main stream media would give it a rest to print stupid things. I wish they had given so much air time, newspaper time for Obama who was given a complete pass on everything he did. Just think, if he had been a republican, do you think hiding his transcriptsd from the different schools would have been OK. No, Obama and his cronies, like Pelosi and Reid have done total damage to the democratic party and the best democrats could do, would be to distance themselves from those three. I hope people vote to save their country not a party that is ruining it. God bless the hard working Americans and our troops.
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Kneeanderthal
12:18 PM on 12/13/2011
The funny part is where Perry talks about growing up without indoor plumbing and Romney talks about using a bucket for a toilet while a missionary in France. Essentially they are arguing about which of them has crapped under worse conditions, back in the day.
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SteveDenver
Progressive and liberal, just like Jesus Christ.
01:43 AM on 12/15/2011
And they're so full of SH IT that it's a story they think everyone can relate to on their level.
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CoffeeRebel
Blue Collar Liberal with a black belt in sarcasm
09:45 PM on 12/12/2011
Fact Check says Perry would have lost his bet. I complained earlier in the post that this story was poorly wrritten without the facts and felt the need to add this after I checked the facts. Mitt offered the bet to make a point that Perry was not telling the truth and knew it.
I won't condemn a man for betting a large amount of money, especially on a sure thing.
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Demarcus Jackson
Southern Psychology Professor
08:23 PM on 12/12/2011
I think this is much ado about nothing. I say I bet 10K all the time, and I hardly have $10,000 on me. There are FAR more valid criticisms of Romney than this one.
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James McGill
09:40 AM on 12/13/2011
Considering that it's a Class "C" Felony in Iowa to make such a bet, I don't know of a more serious crime that has ever been committed publicly by a Presidential candidate. Do you? If this is the highest crime we've ever seen from a candidate, I can't imagine a more valid criticism. He could spend ten years in an Iowa prison. I'd say that's pretty serious.
02:29 PM on 12/14/2011
Oh please - like he was really serious... Lighten up James.
05:52 PM on 12/12/2011
As odd as that was during the debate, it's just proves to you how confident Mitt was on that subject. I know tons of people that throw down the bet gauntlet to prove they are right. Put up or shut up! Perry was caught and that was that! I'm pretty sure that Mitt's adviser's are telling him to go with whatever is popular at the time. Thus, the flip flopping. He should stick with his guns and go towards the middle. I'll vote for anyone that can bring any parties to the table with compromise. Too far one way or another is the kiss of death for any politician these days. Younger voters are all about compromising. It's the older voters that are too set in their dated ways. We have a mixed race president. We've come a long ways, haven't we?
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05:30 PM on 12/12/2011
I would guess that being told over and over by another that a line in a book you've written (whether ghost-written or not) was enough to push Romney over the edge. It was a macho reaction to bet $10,000 with the Nation in the shape it is in. I guess "Macho" is not always the best way to go?

Maybe if he had offered to bet that sum as a donation to the Perry's favorite Charity as opposed to his own (if he proved right) the response would have gone over better. In either case, Logic and Forethought are qualities that seem to be beyond the Bozos offered in these debates.
03:49 PM on 12/12/2011
I have to say, though this is a glaring example of the disconnection of the 1% from the situation of the average american, they are all bought out by corporate interests...republican or democrat. The republicans are just more obvious about it. Obama, being lesser of the two evils, still accepted huge sums from corporations. Do you think these entities give these candidates all this cash simply because they believe in what they are doing? They get their money's worth. To me this story is more than anything, a reminder, that the problem in our government is systemic and broad ranging. That ultimately, until corporate money is taken out of politics, that we are voting for essentially the same thing. Mitt Romney makes 10,000 dollar bets because he is a creature of corporate america, that's how they roll. Obama paints pretty pictures but follows through at about a 20% success rate. He wastes too much valuable time negotiating with domestic terrorists, i.e. the GOP, who are attempting to hijack the government and economy for the corporations. I just want a change I can believe in. No one gives me hope, all I have is the lesser of two evils, this is not how it should be.
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vobox3343
Each day is a new day - make the most of it
03:42 PM on 12/12/2011
A bit trite in my opinion. Which one of us hasn't bet someone a million bucks because we were so sure of ourselves? And yet, even when wrong, I've never had to pay a dime to anyone. Some thiongs we really shouldn't take so seriously. But getting back to these candidates, none is very presidential at all - looks, content or demeanor. You guys are going to have to sit this one out. Palion's advice to you would be that you "reload' and shoot for 2016. Who knows, a star among you might be born. Please don't waste our time any longer.
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James McGill
09:41 AM on 12/13/2011
You've gone on stage and made a bet, in a state with some of the harshest gambling laws in the country? I haven't. It's a felony in Iowa. A large bet exposes you to ten years in prison.
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Bill1966
Where is your towel?
01:39 PM on 12/13/2011
so is speeding, and i'll bet you speed all the time.