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Newt Gingrich vs. Jon Huntsman: 'Lincoln-Douglas' Debate Fails To Have Much Disagreement

Newt Gingrich Jon Huntsman Debate

STEVE PEOPLES   12/12/11 07:19 PM ET   AP

MANCHESTER, N.H. — There were no time limits, formal rules or reporters asking questions.

And if you ask Newt Gingrich and Jon Huntsman, they would say there were no clear winners or losers Monday night in what was billed as a "Lincoln-Douglas" presidential debate modeled after the 1858 meetings of Illinois Senate candidates Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglas.

In fact, after a 90-minute free-flowing discussion about foreign policy and national security, it was difficult to discern a single area where the Republican presidential contenders disagreed. There were no rhetorical bombs thrown. And what criticism surfaced was aimed at President Barack Obama and America's threats abroad.

Yet Gingrich was absolutely thrilled.

"This is what we should have a lot more of, because this is substantive," said Gingrich, the former House speaker. "This is not a Hollywood game. This is not a reality show. This is reality."

In some ways, the format was a dream come true for Gingrich, a self-proclaimed historian and former college professor, whose intellect and willingness to challenge his rivals has aided a sudden rise in the polls. Having lost most of his campaign cash and staffers over the summer, he bet his presidential ambitions almost exclusively on national media interviews and debates.

But Monday's forum, in which the candidates discussed broad topics like Israel and China with only suggested time limits, gave the former speaker further freedom to showcase his knowledge of domestic and foreign affairs, without facing difficult questions about his personal life and controversial policies. It was his second such free-style discussion with a Republican rival – he met with former candidate Herman Cain last month – and may serve as a preview of things to come should Gingrich ultimately win the right to face President Barack Obama next fall.

Even before his rise in the polls, Gingrich had challenged Obama to a series of seven three-hour "Lincoln-Douglas" debates. And he reminds voters every chance he gets that he's willing and able to take on the president.

So eager is Gingrich that he all but called the president "a chicken" during a previous campaign stop Monday morning.

"The president is a Columbia and Harvard law graduate. He was the editor of Harvard Law Review. He is the best orator in the Democratic party," Gingrich said. "How does he look in a mirror and say to himself, `I'm afraid to debate a teacher from West Georgia College?'"

The Obama campaign declined to respond.

But Gingrich says he won't give the president an option. He promised to resort to stalking if necessary.

"The White House will become my scheduler," he said, adding that everywhere the president delivers a speech, he'd show up and deliver his own rebuttal that same day.

He'd do it as long as it takes for Obama to give in.

"Four hours after he speaks, I will answer his speech every single speech from that day on. And I just think in the age of mass media, and blogs, and talk radio and 24-hour cable news, the White House won't be able to take more than two or three weeks of that."

This willingness to face off against his rivals – particularly Obama – drives confidence among his growing base of supporters.

"I think it's a great forum for Newt, because he's not a scripted candidate," said Jonathan White, a former priest and Gingrich supporter who lives in Amherst. "He doesn't stand up there with 30-second sound bites. He has over 30 years of experience in the government. He studied these issues all his life."

Indeed, there was no lightning round of questions Monday night. Gingrich was not asked about his three marriages or his cooperation with Nancy Pelosi on climate change.

Gingrich saved perhaps his harshest criticism for Iran, which he said needed regime change.

"They've had a consistent pattern of being our enemies," he said. "I believe we cannot allow them to have a nuclear weapon. Therefore I believe we have to be for regime change."

Huntsman largely agreed, as he did all night. It was dry enough at times to prompt Huntsman to joke about putting one of his daughters to sleep.

Drew Cline, the opinion page editor for the New Hampshire Union Leader, perhaps summed it up best:

"This isn't a debate; it's a think tank panel. At this point, I'd heartily welcome Donald Trump."

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MANCHESTER, N.H. — There were no time limits, formal rules or reporters asking questions. And if you ask Newt Gingrich and Jon Huntsman, they would say there were no clear winners or losers Mon...
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outlandish 09:56 AM on 12/13/2011
Position still Available but times running out. to run against Obama!
 
Head of the ticket for the Republican Party 2012.
No skills needed or even basic intelligence.
Must be: angry, white (token applications accepted but no chance of job selection),
Vitriolic. To the point of irrational  Read More...
Have no plans for the country.
Have a small passing knowledge of the constitution but be prepared to rant about it incessantly,
while maintaining its perfection and what parts you favor and what parts you want to change.
Proud of your ignorance, It must be projected as a virtue.
Color blind. Except for brown, yellow, and black.
Be against feeding off the public trough for anybody else but you and your friends,
Must be prepared to hold your positions in the face of obvious flaws in their logic.
Must be a late night TV comedians dream.
Must appear to be as ill informed as the most ill informed in the base and pander to their prejudices.
No elitist, with integrity and common sense need apply.
 
ALSO
 
Currently seeking!
 
 
A minority to take a seat in the back of the ticket.
Preference: Must be Latino
Requirements: Must look like a Latino, speak the language and be prepared to act cynically against the Latino communities best interests, if successful.
This is a golden opportunity to sell out your race!
 
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Stan DaMann
Is your money safe in the Caymans?
08:28 PM on 12/14/2011
Hey Newty, why won't you debate me. I would make you look sick, and thoroughly crush all of your flimsy arguments for the 1%.

Come on, Newty, why won't you debate me? Are you afraid??

You must be a chicken, Newty, since you won't debate me.

Newty the chicken, Newty the chicken.
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inLA
10:00 AM on 12/14/2011
Gingrich is so full of hot air.

Jobs, Newt. Jobs. Not your narcissistic fantasies about being on par w Mr. Obama
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IHateTheGOP
gravity - another scientific theory
09:19 AM on 12/14/2011
Newt, the bloviating bloviator.
edtheengineer
Retired engineer with 40 years experience.
09:43 AM on 12/14/2011
In terms of being The Mighty Bloviator, he is a distant second to a well-known radio commentator.
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fwwest
70 year old grandmother
08:54 AM on 12/14/2011
The Newt wants to invade Iran?
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Rick Huggins
You got a better idea...
08:35 AM on 12/14/2011
'Ol Newt,running off at the mouth, again. I'm really pulling for him. If and that's a big "if" he wins the nomination the country will finally see what a fraud this character really is and then he can get back to West Georgia,or where ever.
You know , Newt, sometimes you get what you wish for. And is ain't always what you think.
08:00 AM on 12/14/2011
It should be interesting to watch as Newt follows every Obama stump speech with a counter stump speech of his own. I have never seen that particular process used before in a national election campaign. As Gingrich said, it could ultimately be such a thorn in their side that they agree to a set of head to head debates just to stop the "stalking". Gingrich is smart and creative...what else does he have in mind?
08:38 AM on 12/14/2011
Apparently you "have never seen that particular process used before in a national election campaign", because you never followed a National Election Campaign.

The tit for tat responses to each candidates speech is what ANY campaign is about. THAT is what you're seeing now between Romney and Gingrich. If a candidate DOESN'T counter Whatever his opponent is saying about him, in the way of explanation, clarification, rebuttal or whatever, He loses.

I do not know what Gingrich is talking about. What's New?
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truthsayer4ever
Veritas In Caritate
09:14 AM on 12/14/2011
Gingrich is neither smart nor creative. Gingrich is cunning and deceptive. Big difference.
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kingpin2011
GOP Blues
07:43 AM on 12/14/2011
If anyone is good at stalking someone its Obama. Newt, you forgot what Obama did to Osama Bin Laden didn't you.
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UpBone
Mr. 101
04:45 AM on 12/14/2011
How about a no. of Basketball games and see what kind of shape hes in. He looks old and worn out.
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henrypapillon
Mitt--free up the last 9 years' taxes
02:35 AM on 12/14/2011
Tough talk for a guy that hasn't won a caucus or a primary yet. He's already got the curtains picked out for the White House.
edtheengineer
Retired engineer with 40 years experience.
09:08 AM on 12/14/2011
No, he has deferred that job to his wife. He is intent on choosing furniture for the oval office.
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wonderfullone
02:30 AM on 12/14/2011
A serial adulterer is going to stalk President Obama.------------Now that is very rich and not very bright for a GOP hopeful to be saying.-------------Obama/Biden 2012.
02:01 AM on 12/14/2011
Stalking is against the law.
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truthsayer4ever
Veritas In Caritate
09:15 AM on 12/14/2011
"Against the law" has never bother Gingrich before.
12:09 PM on 12/14/2011
How true truthsayer.
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Counter Sniper
Though I Wander I Am Not Lost...
01:15 AM on 12/14/2011
I can't wait to see Newt doing the perp walk for stalking. You're not above the law Newt. Try being a gentleman instead a gentledouche.
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idisVA
12:54 AM on 12/14/2011
Newt is a nightmare for lots of Republicans.
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1dabut1
Power is not alluring to pure minds. Thomas Jeffer
12:45 AM on 12/14/2011
what is newt suggesting a war with iran.
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dwillisno1
Learning to Butt Heads Without Being Buttheads
11:58 PM on 12/13/2011
Stalking? Look out Mr President, Newt is looking for a new wife!
edtheengineer
Retired engineer with 40 years experience.
09:16 AM on 12/14/2011
That is not a problem for the President. Given that The Newt is a rabid hetero , it is The Batcave Lady who should be getting nervous.