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National Defense Authorization Act: White House Says Senior Officials Will Not Recommend Obama Veto

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DONNA CASSATA   12/14/11 07:57 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — The House passed a massive $662 billion defense bill Wednesday night after last-minute changes placated the White House and ensured President Barack Obama's ability to prosecute terrorist suspects in the civilian justice system.

The vote was 283-136 and reflected the strong support for annual legislation that authorizes money for the men and women of the military as well as weapons systems and the millions of jobs they generate in lawmakers' districts.

It was a rare instance of bipartisanship in a bitterly divided Congress. The Senate is expected to pass the measure on Thursday and send it to Obama.

The House vote came just hours after the administration abandoned a veto threat over provisions dealing with the handling of terrorism suspects.

Applying pressure on House and Senate negotiators working on the bill last week, Obama and senior members of his national security team, including Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, had sought modifications in the detainee provisions.

Negotiators announced the changes late Monday, clearing the way for White House acceptance.

In a statement, press secretary Jay Carney said the new bill "does not challenge the president's ability to collect intelligence, incapacitate dangerous terrorists and protect the American people."

Specifically, the bill would require that the military take custody of a suspect deemed to be a member of al-Qaida or its affiliates and who is involved in plotting or committing attacks on the United States. There is an exemption for U.S. citizens.

House and Senate negotiators added language that says nothing in the bill will affect "existing criminal enforcement and national security authorities of the FBI or any other domestic law enforcement agency" with regard to a captured suspect "regardless of whether such ... person is held in military custody."

The bill also says the president can waive the provision based on national security.

"While we remain concerned about the uncertainty that this law will create for our counterterrorism professionals, the most recent changes give the president additional discretion in determining how the law will be implemented, consistent with our values and the rule of law, which are at the heart of our country's strength," Carney said.

Uncertainty was a major concern of FBI Director Robert Mueller, who expressed serious reservations about the detainee provisions.

Testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Mueller said a coordinated effort by the military, intelligence agencies and law enforcement has weakened al-Qaida and captured or killed many of its leaders, including Osama bin Laden and Anwar al-Awlaki, the U.S.-born radical Islamic cleric. He suggested that the divisive provision in the bipartisan defense bill would deny that flexibility and prove impractical.

"The statute lacks clarity with regard to what happens at the time of arrest. It lacks clarity with regard to what happens if we had a case in Lackawanna, N.Y., and an arrest has to be made there and there's no military within several hundred miles," Mueller said. "What happens if we have ... a case that we're investigating on three individuals, two of whom are American citizens and would not go to military custody and the third is not an American citizen and could go to military custody?"

Unnerving many conservative Republicans and liberal Democrats, the legislation also would deny suspected terrorists, even U.S. citizens seized within the nation's borders, the right to trial and subject them to indefinite detention. House Republican leaders had to tamp down a small revolt among some rank-and-file who sought to delay a vote on the bill.

Some of the Republicans were concerned that the "president would use the military to round up American citizens," said Rep. Allen West, R-Fla., a member of the Armed Services panel.

The escalating fight over whether to treat suspects as prisoners of war or criminals has divided Democrats and Republicans, the Pentagon and Congress.

The administration insists that the military, law enforcement and intelligence officials need flexibility in the campaign against terrorism. Obama points to his administration's successes in killing bin Laden and al-Awlaki. Republicans counter that their efforts are necessary to respond to an evolving, post-Sept. 11 threat, and that Obama has failed to produce a consistent policy on handling terror suspects.

In a reflection of the uncertainty, House members offered differing interpretations of the military custody and indefinite detention provisions and what would happen if the bill became law.

"The provisions do not extend new authority to detain U.S. citizens," House Armed Services Chairman Howard "Buck" McKeon, R-Calif., said during debate.

But Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., said the bill would turn "the military into a domestic police force."

Civil rights groups were outraged by the legislation, and the White House's decision to drop the veto threat.

"As a former constitutional lawyer, the president should know better," said Raha Wala, advocacy counsel for Human Rights First. "This legislation not only undermines the Constitution, it compromises national security. The president needed to show leadership on this, and he's failed."

Highlighting a period of austerity and a winding down of decade-old conflicts, the bill is $27 billion less than Obama requested and $43 billion less than Congress gave the Pentagon. The bill also authorizes money for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and national security programs in the Energy Department.

Frustrated with delays and cost overruns with the troubled F-35 Joint Strike Fighter aircraft program, lawmakers planned to require the contractor, Lockheed Martin, to cover the expense of any extra costs on the next batch and future purchases of the aircraft. The Pentagon envisions buying 2,443 planes for the Air Force, Marine Corps and Navy, but the price could make it the most expensive program in military history – $1 trillion.

The legislation freezes $700 million for Pakistan until the defense secretary provides Congress a report on how Islamabad is countering the threat of improvised explosive devices.

It would impose tough new penalties on Iran, targeting foreign financial institutions that do business with the country's central bank. The president could waive those penalties if he notifies Congress that it's in the interest of national security.

The bill begins a reduction in defense spending, a reality the Pentagon hasn't faced in the decade since the Sept. 11 attacks. Pentagon spending has nearly doubled in that period, but the deficit-reduction plan that Obama and congressional Republicans backed this summer sets the Defense Department on a budget-cutting course.

Arizona Sen. John McCain, the top Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, and several other GOP defense hawks pledged to return to Washington next month with a plan to avoid automatic across-the-board cuts to defense required in 2013. The failure of Congress' deficit supercommittee last month means $1.2 trillion in cuts over the next 10 years, with half from defense.

Defense hawks said the 10 percent cut would hollow out the Pentagon and devastate U.S. military readiness.

McKeon introduced legislation to avert the cuts for one year by reducing the federal workforce by 10 percent. The savings would go to defense and nondefense spending.

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Associated Press writers Pete Yost and Andrew Taylor contributed to this report.

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TheHandyman 01:50 PM on 12/14/2011
No ruler ever gives up willingly the power his predecessor has. People spoke of the Bush administration as having Imperial powers. This is a chance for Obama to increase those powers. Any one who believes Obama will veto this after all his other failures to do the right thing is so deep into the lotus blossoms that they are hopeless. That Lieberman and Levin, Jews, would favor the same kind of law that  Read More...
11:51 AM on 01/01/2012
One of the most invasive laws to be passed against American citizens and one that if it remains, will destroy the US Constitution.
04:50 AM on 12/25/2011
I hope all who reads this realizes that our last hope of stopping this madness is Ron Paul. Please get over the fact that there is a R next to his name. All the differences you may have with his policies is less paramount to the threat to our constitutional republic. All the chearished government programs will mean nothing in a country rulued by tyrants. Ron Pauls vision of a smaller Constitutional government is congruent to the reclamation of our civil liberties. The corporate media shills are spreading misinformation about him because they know he's a threat to their status quo. Please register R and vote for Ron Paul in the primary elections. Then you can decide between two. Remember to vote you conscience and vote for the candidate that will honor his oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution. This may be our last chance between freedom or ...
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Andrea Blackwell
Why watch the news? The truth's on Comedy Central!
01:35 AM on 12/16/2011
President Obama, VETO.....HARD!!!
Use BOTH hands if need be.
You can break the stamp on that SOPA bill.
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12:36 AM on 12/16/2011
Mr. President -- Sign the bill, lose my vote (and a whole bunch more, I'd bet)! This I promise you.
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Hikerguy22
Celebrate the end of Big Oil and Coal; and Meat?
12:25 AM on 12/16/2011
This clearly looks like a very bad law. We spend far too much on defense. "Look at what happened in Russia", as CEO of Honeywell recently said on Crammer's TV show.
09:49 PM on 12/15/2011
This nation cannot stand as long as we are not together. When you vote. Vote them all out.Look!,VOTE for whats good. Thats all that matters.Not party lines,popularity,or religion.
07:51 PM on 12/15/2011
you've taken my money, you've taken my home, if you take my family without just cause and due process, there are no more straws to pull.
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silverwolf13
I know that I do not know.
07:40 PM on 12/15/2011
The Democrats think that liberals will have no choice but to vote for them over Tea Party Republicans. But that difference is getting thinner and thinner.
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07:09 PM on 12/15/2011
The only person standing between detention of american citizens without due process of law and the american citizens is the President.

Obama could literally save his presidency by vetoing this measure. He could stand for the people and not for special interests.

I am a conservative and I will not vote for any member of Congress who supported this attack on civil liberties. No matter the party. Some called the Tea Party and it's fear of government paranoia, well enjoy it. Here it is. Don't Tread on Me.
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DarkandStormyNight
My hoodie keeps me warm!
06:19 PM on 12/15/2011
I guess we'll have the opportunity to see how the SCOTUS will interpret and vote on this.
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SOTM
The kids they dance and shake their bones
08:56 PM on 12/15/2011
5-4 in favor of locking up American Citizens indefinitely.
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macrocosm
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05:56 PM on 12/15/2011
Where is the Judicial arm in all this? Are they already weakened to the point of being totally ineffectual? Will ANY of them stand up for the Constitution? Will they stand up for America?
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DarkandStormyNight
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06:14 PM on 12/15/2011
The judicial arm will not be able to respond until a test case is presented to them. They have voted in favor of specific cases that allowed the government to hold people without due process. However, a test case under an actual law will provide them an opportunity to decide the constitutionality of the law itself. That will be interesting.
Sergeant
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07:10 PM on 12/15/2011
And it has been done before by Franklin Roosevelt.
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SOTM
The kids they dance and shake their bones
09:03 PM on 12/15/2011
For there to be a test case one has to have standing, and I'm betting this law makes it very difficult to get standing, and for those that will have standing, well we won't know about them and they will not have the ability to asert their standing. I would think it will be a long road to SCOTUS. I suppose this is another death blow to Habeas Corpus in the United States.
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TheIndependenceParty
Cranky yankee and a rehabilitated ex-Republican
04:23 PM on 12/15/2011
I didn't elect any d@mn senior White House Officials, ... I elected Barack Obama! When he signs this bill into law, he and those members of Congress who voted for this unconstitutional act, will each have violated their oaths of office to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States.

I will not vote for anyone who has supported and passed this bill, or signed it into law.

Enough is enough!
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macrocosm
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05:42 PM on 12/15/2011
You wont be voting in the "fema camp" though will you?
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TheIndependenceParty
Cranky yankee and a rehabilitated ex-Republican
11:55 PM on 12/15/2011
I would rather end up on a bunk in those camps than go down like a sheep to slaughter in an America devoid of civil liberties and abandoning every purpose upon which this nation was founded. When words alone strike terror, that is when they will come for me. I am unarmed but I am not afraid. These are small minds with lots of money. That is a self-defeating combination, bound to fail.
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07:12 PM on 12/15/2011
Well said. On this we can agree. Liberals and conservatives. Republicans and democrats. Enough is enough. Toss them out. Every single one who voted for this.
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TheIndependenceParty
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12:00 AM on 12/16/2011
Thanks, Sarge. I have lived long enough to admire liberals and conservatives, ... and few of those in office now fit either definition. The level of furor they raise against one another belies the fact they are identical, ... two sides of the same coin. I'll know a good Conservative when I see one again as I hope. And I'll know a Liberal when one shows up without pockets filled by the Banksters. Thank you sir. There will be joined a coalition of both sides, but it will not be run by thieves and liars. That is assured.
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John fulano de tal
03:31 PM on 12/15/2011
This smells to me like John McCain and the Corrections Corp of America are at it again.
They aren't happy with profiting from jailing the the undocumented without due process.

Now they want to jail US citizens without due process. And guess who will pay the $125 to $200 a day per person to keep this new category of "terrorist/criminal/invader/protestor/citizen"?

Ingenious! Privatization of military jails for profit! You have to read what they did in Arizona!

http://www.dallasobserver.com/2010-10-21/news/operation-streamline-costs-taxpayers-millions-tramples-on-the-constitution-treats-immigrants-like-cattle-and-doesn-t-work-so-why-are-the-feds-so-committed-to-it/

If this was not so outrageous it would be funny!
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Stephen B Kidde
Human Rights Rule!
02:58 PM on 12/15/2011
The bill needs to be vetoed.
01:52 PM on 12/15/2011
President Obama has obfuscated his duty to citizens. He is moving from a the best of bad options for president to a danger to our freedom. As a 'bleeding heart' liberal, it saddens me that I have no-one left to vote for.
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TheIndependenceParty
Cranky yankee and a rehabilitated ex-Republican
04:24 PM on 12/15/2011
Hear, Hear!
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07:15 PM on 12/15/2011
As a "bleeding heart" fiscal conservative and social liberal I have the option of Libertarians.