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National Transportation Safety Board Recommends A Ban On Hands-Free Phones

National Transportation Safety Board

By JOAN LOWY   12/15/11 08:30 AM ET   AP

WASHINGTON -- When someone is talking to you, your brain is listening, processing and thinking about what's being said – even if you're in the driver's seat trying to concentrate on traffic.

That's why drivers get distracted during cellphone conversations, even when using hands-free phones, researchers say. It's also part of the reason why the National Transportation Safety Board made a recommendation this week it knows a lot of drivers won't like – that states ban hands-free, as well as hand-held, cellphone use while driving.

It's not where your hands are, but where your mind is that counts, NTSB chairman Deborah Hersman told reporters.

The board doesn't have the power to force states to impose a ban, but its recommendations carry significant weight. And, judging from the public reaction, they've already started a national conversation on the subject. NTSB has been swamped with calls, emails and tweets from drivers both praising and condemning the action.

It's the proposed hands-free ban that has generated the most controversy.

What's next? No passengers? No kids? No tuning the radio? Maybe NTSB will ban driving altogether, was the tenor of the response on Twitter.

The scientific evidence, however, is generally with NTSB, researchers said.

"There is a large body of evidence showing that talking on a phone, whether hand-held or hands-free, impairs driving and increases your risk of having a crash," Anne McCartt, senior vice president for research at the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, said.

Jim Hedlund, a safety consultant and former National Highway Traffic Safety Administration official, recently examined 300 cellphone studies for the Governors Highway Safety Association. He couldn't recall a single study that showed drivers talking on a headset or hands-free phone were at any less risk of an accident than drivers with one hand on the wheel and a phone in the other.

A similar analysis for the government of Sweden recently came to the same conclusion: "There is no evidence suggesting that hands-free mobile phone use is less risky than handheld use."

What's missing is hard evidence that accidents are increasing because of cellphone use. One reason is that U.S. privacy laws have made it difficult for researchers to study whether cell phones were in use in accidents in the U.S. The two large studies that have been done – in Canada and Australia – found drivers were four times more likely to have a crash if talking on a cellphone. It didn't matter whether the cellphone was hands-free or hand-held.

But that hasn't translated to an increase in highway fatalities in the U.S., where they hit their lowest level since 1949 last year.

Of 6,000 drivers surveyed by the highway administration, 40 percent said they don't consider it unsafe for drivers to talk on a hands-free cellphone. Less than 12 percent said that about a hand-held phone.

Marcel Just, director of Carnegie Mellon University's Center for Cognitive Brain Imaging, isn't surprised.

It's counterintuitive to think that hands-free talking is dangerous because people don't have any sense that their conversation is draining brain power away from driving, but that's exactly what's happening, he said.

Just is the co-author of a 2008 study that used driving simulators to test the performance of drivers not engaged in conversation and drivers who could hear someone talking to them through headphones. Drivers took the simulator tests inside an MRI (magnetic resonance imaging) machine that recorded images of changes in their brains while driving, including which areas of the brain were used for driving. The amount of the brain devoted to driving was 37 percent less in drivers who could hear someone talking to them than for drivers not using cellphones.

"The human mind can multitask, but each task is performed with less brain power and lower proficiency," Just said.

The driving simulators also showed a deterioration of skills on the part of drivers who could hear someone talking to them, including weaving between lanes and edging over the side of the road.

"When someone is speaking your native language, you can't will yourself to not hear and process it. It just goes in," Just said. Even if a driver tries to ignore the words, scientists "can see activation in the auditory cortex, in the language areas (of the brain). "

Accident investigators have seen cases of drivers talking on hands-free phones whose minds are so engrossed in their conversations that they ran into something plainly visible.

In a 2004, a bus driver taking students on a class trip drove his 12-foot-high bus into a 10-foot, 2-inch-high bridge arch in Alexandria, Va., peeling off the roof of the bus. There were signs warning drivers about the height of the bridge, and the bus driver was familiar with the route. He also saw a bus in front of him change lanes to avoid the low arch. But the bus driver, who was talking a hands-free phone at the time, drove right into it.

"There is a standard code for crash investigations called roughly `look, but didn't see.' In other words, I was looking in the right place, but I didn't register what was there," Hedlund said.

Of course, drivers don't have to be using cellphones to have conversations – they talk with passengers all the time. But talking to an adult passenger doesn't involve the same risk as a phone conversation, researchers said. That's because passengers are engaged in the driving experience with the driver. If they see a danger, they'll usually warn the driver. Passengers also tend to instinctually adjust their conversation to the level of traffic and other difficulties confronting the driver.

There are lots of other things that go on in cars that are risky: eating and drinking, tuning the radio, studying maps and applying makeup, for example. Just like talking on the phone, most of those things involve a choice by the driver.

As for the screaming toddler in the backseat demanding attention, "some things are just part of life," McCartt said.

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09:17 AM on 12/16/2011
she can hands free me anytime hehe
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Vitorio
Healthy, Educated America will always prosper.
01:15 AM on 12/16/2011
can't remember that last action or idea coming out of the government that made sense or was positive to the citizen.
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RealityMyFriend
HOPE 2012
11:49 PM on 12/15/2011
I have hands free voice controled bluetooth built into my car. I feel this is safe to use if used responsibly. I would never hold a phone to my face while driving. I couldn't do that if I wanted to because I have a standard. Hand on wheel and shifter at all times.
04:37 PM on 12/15/2011
There is a study that shows hands free phones are safe. Its the OnStar study. OnStar records lots of data on the status and operation of the car including when the cell phone is in use and when the airbag is deployed. The study shows there is no increase in risk when using hands free phones. In fact there is a slight decrease in risk. Why? You drive to work every day, same route for 10 years, you go on autopilot, day dream, think about work or play or the weekend. Talking on the phone brings you back to the here and now. Or you have been on the road for hours, tired, start dozing off at the wheel. You pull up the phone and start talking to stay awake long enough to get to the rest stop or a restaurant.

Almost all other cell phone studies rely on driver cooperation, witnesses, and police reports. These are unrealible. Other studies are indirect and try to apply knowledge of the brain to driving and talking, these are indirect. The OnStar study is direct real world evidence.

Hands free is safe. Texting and non-hands free is not safe because you have to take your eyes off the road.
klwarner
Third wheel legend, always in the way
05:17 PM on 12/15/2011
Would you really trust the data on this coming from a hands-free communication firm?
06:25 PM on 12/15/2011
yes. The study was not performed by OnStar or GM.

The study was published in June 2009 "Risk Analysis", a peer reviewed journal of the Society for Risk Analysis. The author Richard Young is Research Professor at Wayne State University School of Medicine, co-author Christopher Schreiner formerly from Virginia Tech Transportation Institute and Motorola is a human factors expert.

OnStar data is recorded automatically. Theoretically GM could have manipulated the recorded data but nobody - even the opponenets of the study - has suggested the data is corrupted. Some people (mainly the govt) have now started throwing rocks at the study but the data itself has not been questioned.
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darth geekboy
04:06 PM on 12/15/2011
i've always known that even using hands-free accessories for your phone while driving STILL does not work.

but regardless of what anyone thinks about phones and texting while driving.......ANY kind of distraction while driving IS a recipe for an accident. i venture that 99.99% of traffic accidents are caused by distracted drivers, discounting accidents through DUI and DWI. even changing the channel on the car radio is distracting and have resulted in accidents. should we ban radios from cars then?

i think what's needed is just better training of drivers. but outright bans on people putting their make-up on, or even reading a newspaper should be implemented.
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CaroleK1970
I want my country forward
03:01 PM on 12/15/2011
this is ridiculous, you cannot ban talking in the car, what about talking to passengers or your children. this will never go through
klwarner
Third wheel legend, always in the way
03:13 PM on 12/15/2011
But it isn't "talking in a car", it's using a mobile device.
04:29 PM on 12/15/2011
Ban CB radios then also. Ban GPS units. Ban ON-Star style services that allow you to get directions without a GPS. How exactly do you plan on enforcing this? A automatic disable on a mobile unit that is moving from tower to tower above a certain speed? A passenger train/light rail system riders are not operating the train so how is that dangerous?

NTSB has proposed a logical problem that is impossible to stop.
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CaroleK1970
I want my country forward
06:25 PM on 12/15/2011
hands-free - means just talking, same as if you have a passenger
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Tom95134
04:37 PM on 12/15/2011
Kids in a car are just as distracting. In some cases, they should be put in animal carriers and a cage cover (sound-proof) put over the cage. (I have a similar opinion about kids on airplanes.)
02:49 PM on 12/15/2011
Are they going to ban conversation with passengers next? If the cop sees my mouth moving while driving will I be pulled over and ticketed?
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LightShadow62
The answers are not found in the extremes
03:03 PM on 12/15/2011
Add car stereos to the list because you might actually listen to the host or dj.
klwarner
Third wheel legend, always in the way
03:14 PM on 12/15/2011
Why wouldn't you want to take as many safety precautions as possible when driving a 2 ton vehicle?
03:49 PM on 12/15/2011
I can drive a car safely, let's do more driver education and less restrictive laws. People will break laws, ban radio, ban passengers, ban hands free cellphones if you want, there will still be wrecks and deaths.
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ResearchtheFacts
02:48 PM on 12/15/2011
What if it is built into the vehicle? How does this make sense? Will they rip out my stereo wheel and replace the voice activation system?
01:34 PM on 12/15/2011
Absolutely absurd!
01:54 PM on 12/15/2011
Why is it absurd to try and identify factors that lead to accidents and then eliminate them? You're using your seat belt aren't you?
03:04 PM on 12/15/2011
The absurdity comes into it because of the references merely to talking in the car, which implies that talking to any passengers in the car is a risk.

Which means Moms with shrieking infants, toddlers and children should really never drive anywhere.

Which means it is over the top and will be impossible to enforce.

People are not going to stop talking in cars, either to other passengers or through whatever devices are legal in their area (hands free, built it, etc.)
klwarner
Third wheel legend, always in the way
01:08 PM on 12/15/2011
Oh man, wouldn't it be awful if you had to go back to driving without being on the phone with anybody? I'm pretty sure life itself would end.
03:05 PM on 12/15/2011
Wouldn't it be awful if Moms couldn't have distracting babies in the rear seat?

YEAH Let's go back to the good old days. Let them all walk.
klwarner
Third wheel legend, always in the way
03:07 PM on 12/15/2011
But that's not the good old days. It was only 20 years ago you didn't have constant digital distractions, I don't know how the responsibility of driving your own children is at all related.
04:31 PM on 12/15/2011
Back in the kitchen with you woman. Barefoot and pregnant fixing my dinner! I AM KIDDING
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12:44 PM on 12/15/2011
This story: http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=6057 turned out to be a dad distracted by his baby in the back seat. He never even knew he killed the girl. So sad. Lots of things in life are distracting.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
06:12 PM on 12/15/2011
So sad. Lots of people are very negligent.
12:40 PM on 12/15/2011
Well folks, this is what govt. does. It wants to look like it is helping. It wants to look like it cares about safety. It wants to look like it is improving things for people. What actually does is restrict freedom. We already have on the books, in some form or another, statutes against reckless driving. It matters not, from where the recklessness comes. If someone is distracted, for whatever reason, and drives recklessly, then bust them. This proposed ban is another example of micromanaging run amok.
01:51 PM on 12/15/2011
You have no Constitutional right guaranteeing that you can talk on a cell phone while driving so government can and should do what is best for the public. If there is strong evidence that talking on a cell phone contributes to accidents then perhaps it should be banned. They are not restricting your freedom but rather are eliminating your bad behavior that endangers others.
04:36 PM on 12/15/2011
Wasn't this the same logic that was used for Prohibition "Doing it for your own good!"
Oh and the ever so successful "War on Drugs"... banning something because we say it is bad. Hell why not go and ban Rap music, Rock Music, and anything else that has moved society forward from the stone age. Since you are sooooo willing to take that step forward.. at what point will you be willing to stop? Or what will you do when they go beyond what YOU believe is reasonable?
07:16 PM on 12/15/2011
wrong, so so wrong.

You have it so very backwards. The Constitution gives the government limited rights. All rights and powers not explicitly provided to the federal government are reserved for the people and the states.

There is no place in the Constitution to justify most of what the feds are doing today. It takes 230 years of increasingly twisted logic to justify their actions.
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chipchuck
Rethink that...
12:10 PM on 12/15/2011
Isn't Google working on a driver-free car?

Can we spend the same amount as on Iraq on roads and cars that drive automatically? Then we won't need to worry about phones, makeup, babies, radio, etc.

It's obvious we can't be trusted to think of others over ourselves, so let's just remove the common denominator....US.
01:51 PM on 12/15/2011
An excellent suggestion.
07:31 PM on 12/15/2011
uh oh. Now I'm scared. Microsoft Windows will no doubt control the car. What happens when the blue screen of death appears?

Or if Google writes the program. What happens when someone jumps in the road and I yell "STOP" and Google gives me a list of shopping sites in the area?

I would love a driver free car. I would love a transporter like on Star Trek. Neither will happen in my life time. A driver free car in a lab is one thing. Mass transportation with driverless vehicles is something else.
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Edogg62
11:37 AM on 12/15/2011
Ban the USE of phones in ANY form or fashion in a vehicle... and don't use the "honor" system... disable them. How many people have to die before we learn that we're driving 2 ton weapons while we post our trivial "accomplishments" on Facebook?
01:54 PM on 12/15/2011
just wondering if you read this article. from the text:

"[this] hasn't translated to an increase in highway fatalities in the U.S., where they hit their lowest level since 1949 last year."

I'm not saying it's reasonable for people to update Facebook while driving or even make phone calls, but the data does not suggest any increase in highway fatalities. That's something that has to contribute to the conversation.
03:06 PM on 12/15/2011
I full agree that hand held devices should not be allowed

But I do not agree that hands free or built in devices should be banned, unless they are going to ban passengers, children in car seats, and even car radios...

You see what I mean.
11:12 AM on 12/15/2011
Ban children from cars; they're more distracting than cell phones. Ban food and drinks, too. In fact, I say it's high time the auto manufacturers installed manacles on steering wheels and head braces in car ceilings so drivers are forced to look straight ahead and keep both hands on the wheel while the car is in motion. Hell, why not just ban cars altogether? Clearly, we're all such overgrown children that we're unwilling to handle a little trivial risk. Let's all just lock ourselves in our houses and never go outside again! That'll keep us safe...
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12:41 PM on 12/15/2011
+1.
DWP = driving while parenting