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Payroll Tax Cut Extension: Leaders Near Deal, But Still Eye Two-Month Back-Up Plan [UPDATED]

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First Posted: 12/15/11 07:55 PM ET Updated: 12/15/11 10:13 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- Congressional leaders cut a deal to keep the government funded Thursday night, but extending a payroll tax cut and other items that expire at the end of the year remained in limbo, sources told The Huffington Post.

Negotiators appeared to be closing in on an agreement even on the contentious 2 percent payroll tax cut, as well as extending emergency unemployment benefits, forestalling a mandated cut in Medicare payments to doctors, and heading off an increase in the alternative minimum tax for the next year. All of those items expire on Jan. 1.

A Democratic source said the two sides were about half of the way to finding the $200 billion that would be needed.

Talks appeared positive enough that negotiators were willing to work deep into the night. But if they stall, a two-month extension of all of those measures was being discussed as a fall-back option.

"They'll keep working into the weekend if they have to," the Democrat said.

Such a move would at least take the pressure off and lower the temperature of the debate, as well as let lawmakers go home for the holidays without cutting the paychecks of some 160 million Americans by 2 percent. It would also be easier to find ways to pay for the short-term deal.

Once source cautioned, however, that Republicans were not yet ready to accept any sort of temporary fix.

But with the signs of progress on the payroll issues, and the agreement on the omnibus bill to keep the government running, both sides seemed optimistic.

In order to accept the House spending plan, Democrats insisted that a number of unpalatable riders be dropped or changed.

Among them were provisions aimed at blocking environmental regulations, measures that would have blocked the military from treating gays more equitably, language that would have blocked funding to challenge the Defense of Marriage Act, and many other attacks on Democratic priorities. The provisions also included attempts to cut parts of the health care reform law, public broadcasting, Planned Parenthood, and key parts of both the Commodity Futures Trading Commission and the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

For the CFTC, which oversees the risky derivatives that helped spark the recession, a budget of $205 million was preserved to allow it to pursue the financial reforms passed last year.

Republicans have already passed a version of the payroll tax extension that Democrats believe is also packed with poison pills. But in another sign negotiations were proceeding, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) brought that measure to the floor of the Senate Thursday night, and started the clock ticking for a vote that would likely come Saturday morning. Reid said that an agreement could possibly be reached to proceed sooner.


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WASHINGTON -- Congressional leaders cut a deal to keep the government funded Thursday night, but extending a payroll tax cut and other items that expire at the end of the year remained in limbo, sourc...
WASHINGTON -- Congressional leaders cut a deal to keep the government funded Thursday night, but extending a payroll tax cut and other items that expire at the end of the year remained in limbo, sourc...
 
 
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COMMUNITY PUNDITS
realpolitic 12:14 AM on 12/16/2011
One can see how ideological rabid Republicans are? In a commonsensical bill to extend the payroll tax cut they want to load down the bill with all kinds of ideological poison like "blocking environmental regulations, blocking the military from treating gays more equitably, including language that blocks funding to challenge the Defense of Marriage Act, and many other attacks on Democratic priorities. The  Read More...
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01:48 PM on 12/16/2011
The only negotiations that should be taking place are to strip all appropriations and tax related bills of any policy riders. As for extending the payroll tax cut, either you fund it from another revenue source, or you let it expire. Funding a tax cut for one program by defunding other programs; while simultaneously attempting to pass a budget bill to fund all programs is just a shell game. If we could agree on defunding other programs, that should be in the budget bill and leave nothing for the payroll tax cut extension. I'm for reforming taxes on carried interest, long term capital gains and dividend personal income from financial investments - to tax them at the same rates as personal income from wages and salaries, and to subject them to payroll / self employment tax... That would more than pay for the payroll tax cuts...
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ThatPhotoGuy
Liberal to the end, servant to none
01:48 PM on 12/16/2011
If even one democrat, including obama, agrees to cut ui benefits by one thin dime to pay for extending the pr tax break, they should be hung from the same tree that will, sooner rather than later, provide resting places for every single rethuglicant.

EAT THE RICH!
01:23 PM on 12/16/2011
Professional Malpractice...
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wrightj
01:14 PM on 12/16/2011
If the Democrats are smart they will not pass this bill adn just let the tax cuts roll as they may as it is too full of things gutting Demoratic causes. Nothing was said about the $915B for DOD and pentagon. What about the $915B? Did the Democrats cave in on that??? Plenty of money (almost $1T) for DOD and the pentagon with no source of revenue to back it up, but they cannot find funding for SS, Medicare, and other necessary social programs we have paid into all our lives?????? If Democrats do not adamantly support these programs but somehow find money for DOD and pentagon - then count me out of the Democratic party.
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stopnlisten
Hitch your wagon to a star!
12:48 PM on 12/16/2011
Tired of Dems worrying about the workers and the majority of American people-poor, sick, elderly, veterans, and the unemployed. GOP just worries about the rich GOP hoarding more wealth.
01:39 PM on 12/16/2011
no, stop n listen, they also care about future generations who will have to pay the bills run up by our government today. i'm not wealthy but i'm quite worried about the enormous debts we're piling up. apparently you don't seem to care about them, or, have you not stopped long enough to really listen.
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Opinionated Lady
Buy American - Bring industry home
01:57 PM on 12/16/2011
I'm more concerned that the children will be ill-prepared because of cuts to education, will have poisonous air to breathe, suffer hunger and extreme weather because of climate change, and economic depression because of the depradations of our financial system.
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JHancock
Why do wingers h8 American workers?
10:09 PM on 12/17/2011
Yeah, better to use those future generations as canon fodder for the neo-Bircher wars to run up real deficits to make the 1% richer. That is what your GOTPERS stands for.
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janetislight
Liberal/Progressive/Socialist. Deal with it.
12:42 PM on 12/16/2011
I still don't see anything about the Keystone Pipeline. Call Now.

http://www­.congress.­org/congre­ssorg/dbq/­officials/

This will show you how to call, email and twitter your representatives.

Go, do it now. I said NOW! please.
trish333
Tea will be served in 2012. Lemon or sugar?
01:25 PM on 12/16/2011
Yeah, where is that pipeline? We need the jobs.
01:33 PM on 12/16/2011
More importantly we need the Oil. China is on a buying spree for natural resources. When we start growing we will need all the Oil we can get and if we don't secure it now we will be begging China, the ME, Russia, or Chavez for Oil.
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janetislight
Liberal/Progressive/Socialist. Deal with it.
10:48 PM on 12/16/2011
It will cost us jobs. Do your homework.
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Bren55
Happy Liberal
12:29 PM on 12/16/2011
Gey lobbyists and corporations the heck out of Washington, eliminate all tax deductions, term limits are a must. None of us should think for a minute these politicians care about the American people. We pay their salaries, provide these bumbs with better health coverage than most Americans get and pay for their haircuts and dinner. They are sponging off of us and living high on our dime. If we don't take this country back soon we are in big trouble.
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wrightj
01:16 PM on 12/16/2011
I'm on your band wagon!
12:15 PM on 12/16/2011
More bold action by the senate.A lump of coal for each and every one.
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Bloggerrogr
Thou shalt not whine
12:07 PM on 12/16/2011
Easy way to save that $200B. Subtract it from the already bloated Pentagon budget. Easy fix. Defund military "contractors" as they are not in the Constitution. FWIW
bert70
I'm now 74, time flies when your having fun.
11:35 AM on 12/16/2011
Congress sucks, Senate sucks more!
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Bloggerrogr
Thou shalt not whine
12:02 PM on 12/16/2011
"bert";
The Senate is part of Congress. It is sometimes referred to as 'The Upper House'.


FWIW
01:40 PM on 12/16/2011
current president sucks even more!!
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Bill Duckworth
It is a DOOZY
11:33 AM on 12/16/2011
Darn if they would simple quit giving Tax Cuts creating less Revene and DEBT

Tax the Profit to force job, salary and private spending THE ECONOMY WOULD IMPROVE

These masacats love bikering and doing their Plan B's. so bickering can go on another day an not fix a thing

Careate Bill A, make adjustments and get Plan B

When will Clever and Car selling be replace with Leadership? The globe is dying under all this big money transfer from the worker to the rich
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garymc8
We got OBL- not gop
11:26 AM on 12/16/2011
Don't seem to remember the QUATERLY GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWNS UNDER CLINTON.
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12:26 PM on 12/16/2011
Which had Republicans controlling the purse strings.i
wolfsonnydiane
Good goverment lies in the middle
06:50 AM on 12/17/2011
Judging from what those same republicans did under Bush , one might conclude it was Clinton controling the republicans from spending like druken sailors.
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stopnlisten
Hitch your wagon to a star!
12:49 PM on 12/16/2011
OR the surplus he left that Bush rifled through.....
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David Hundley
Deep In The Heart of Taxes
11:25 AM on 12/16/2011
If OB promisised transparancy, we would stand up and tell the American people Where they are borrowing the money from.
Ded Peasant
Will I still get a free toy with my happy meal?
11:29 AM on 12/16/2011
hey we know it but we can't stop buying the cheep crap that doesn't last. We could take control if we wanted...we don't want too.
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M33TBallz
IMHO, SYPH
11:39 AM on 12/16/2011
Cheep crap? Is that like chickensh!t?
wolfsonnydiane
Good goverment lies in the middle
06:53 AM on 12/17/2011
Lets see if you actualy know were that would be from .Tell me David who are we borrowing the money from?
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Bill Duckworth
It is a DOOZY
11:25 AM on 12/16/2011
Rich get Million while poor get a $1000 a year. Either Obama is bad a math or he love the rich. Something I call a POOR REPUBLICAN

"

Good morning and happy Friday! Here are your morning headlines.

The Washington Post: Medicare’s ‘SGR’ Formula Has Snowballed To Budget-Busting Juggernaut
It was adopted by Congress in 1997 almost as an afterthought — a new formula to keep Medicare spending on doctors from growing faster than the economy as a whole. But like a snowball that swells in size as it rolls down a mountain, the rate-setting formula has transformed into a budget-busting juggernaut that will hit doctors with a 27.4 percent pay cut for their Medicare patients in January unless legislators step in (Aizenman, 12/15).

The Associated Press/Washington Post: House To Vote To Avert Shutdown While Payroll Tax Cut Talks Continue
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., told reporters Thursday night that he was still optimistic that bipartisan talks on yearlong extensions of the Social Security payroll tax cut and unemployment coverage would succeed. But as a “Plan B,” he said, they were working on a two-month extension as well, which would also prevent cuts in Medicare reimbursements for doctors during that period (12/16).

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David Hundley
Deep In The Heart of Taxes
11:38 AM on 12/16/2011
Yea, and they continue to deny that we don't need socialized medicine, The Doctor's are getting the shaft, and they will have to drop patients. Thank you Obamacare. WE WANTED SINGLE PAYER and ended up still paying for everyone anyhow.
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Bill Duckworth
It is a DOOZY
05:59 PM on 12/16/2011
LOL

A small clinic where I live just offered a doctor jobs for $300,000 a year.

And I aget billed out at $500,000 and only get $50,000

Justice does not mean this.

I am not even employed at what does $1000 a year do for ME or YOU. $2.73 won't even buy a Republican or Democrate Message
Ded Peasant
Will I still get a free toy with my happy meal?
11:24 AM on 12/16/2011
All we need to do is tax church, non profit organizations, and the rich can keep their tax breaks. Why can't we put that on the table.
11:29 AM on 12/16/2011
I say we allow the poor to sell their body parts for cash. Then we can cut all unemployment programs.

Let the private sector work it's magic!