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Wyden-Ryan Medicare Proposal Has White House 'Concerned'

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First Posted: 12/15/11 12:46 PM ET Updated: 12/15/11 02:57 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration expressed concern Thursday over the bipartisan Medicare reform proposal that has been hammered out between Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), saying it believes the plan could weaken the program.

"We are concerned that Wyden-Ryan, like Congressman Ryan’s earlier proposal, would undermine, rather than strengthen, Medicare," said White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer. "The Wyden-Ryan scheme could, over time, cause the traditional Medicare program to “wither on the vine” because it would raise premiums, forcing many seniors to leave traditional Medicare and join private plans. And it would shift costs from the government to seniors. At the end of the day, this plan would end Medicare as we know it for millions of seniors. Wyden-Ryan is the wrong way to reform Medicare."

The statement makes valid policy points that other health care reform groups were expressing the day after the Wyden-Ryan model was laid out. That said, what the duo is attempting to do -- turn Medicare into a premium support system that also preserves the current model -- resembles some of the very reforms that President Obama instituted into the health care system at large (albiet without a public option-like choice for consumers, which traditional Medicare would be under Wyden-Ryan).

It is also clear, however, that the new bipartisan model has the potential to cause major political headaches for both parties -- particularly Democrats.

Ryan's original plan, which turned Medicare into a voucher system, was widely unpopular and served as an anchor around the neck of virtually every Republican. And while GOP lawmakers still have to explain the votes they cast for it, they can now make the argument that the party's point person on the issue has moved on to friendlier turf.

For Democrats, Wyden's work with Ryan is giving Republicans cover on an issue that seemed destined to hurt their congressional reelection chances. Not only that, it aids former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, both presidential candidates who have proposed hybrid approaches to Medicare reform similar to what Wyden and Ryan are introducing. It's telling, indeed, that the White House used Gingrich's famous "wither on the vine" line to characterize the approach.

“For starters, this is bad policy and a complete political loser," said a senior Democratic Congressional aide. "On top of the terrible politics, they even admit that it dismantles Medicare but achieves no budgetary savings while doing so -- the worst of all worlds. Thanks for nothing.”

UPDATE: Paul Ryan's office responds with a statement to the Washington Examiner that calls the president "increasingly isolated" from the "bipartisan consensus."

I am grateful to have a partner in my friend Senator Wyden, as we work together to create space for bipartisan solutions to address our nation’s most pressing challenges. It is disappointing to find the President of the United States increasingly isolated from this growing bipartisan consensus on efforts to save and strengthen our critical health and retirement security programs. The President’s failure to offer credible solutions to the challenges facing Medicare is a disservice to seniors, a disservice to hardworking families, and a disservice to the next generation. A more glaring disappointment is the President’s failure to recognize a sincere effort by a Democrat and a Republican to come together and offer solutions, betraying his own rhetoric and his own commitment to those we have the privilege to serve. America deserves better.
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WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration expressed concern Thursday over the bipartisan Medicare reform proposal that has been hammered out between Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), s...
WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration expressed concern Thursday over the bipartisan Medicare reform proposal that has been hammered out between Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), s...
 
 
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dizmo4 01:56 PM on 12/15/2011
Its really alarming the Ron Wyden is agreeing to this scheme. His proposal with former Utah Senator Mike Bennette was, perhaps, one of the most progressive proposals to reform the health care system. I don't understand why he would support a program that takes the country in the opposite direction ( He's not up for re-election is he?). That said, moving medicare more towards a fee for service instead of a  Read More...
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Zephyra
07:16 PM on 12/17/2011
Senator Ron Wyden seems to be showing signs of Stockholm Syndrome. Get your game back, Ron; you're not alone. Let's focus on taking power back from GOP hijackers of our government. Bullying doesn't equate with good governance.
05:00 PM on 12/17/2011
I can remember when insurance companies started providing insurance coverages to employers for their employees. It was so cheap that my employer did not require any of his employees to contribute to their plan. Now, of course, it is a major part of both employer and employees financial costs. If the republican politicians and their employers, the insurance companies, get their way, the medicare program will be abolished and most old people will not be able to afford any kind of medical insurance. Remember Ron Paul felt like someone should be allowed to die if they did not have money to pay for their insurance.
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12:39 PM on 12/17/2011
"Wyden-Ryan Medicare Proposal Has White House 'Concerned' "

The title of this blog should have been "Wyden-Ryan Medicare Proposal Has White House 'Ready to Cave' ". Isn't that what happens every time this White House gets concerned?
05:22 AM on 12/17/2011
Republicans are looking for any possible way to kill Medicare and transfer those billions of tax dollars to their friends in the insurance industry.
11:32 PM on 12/16/2011
Now I understand why Republican Dylan Radigan praises Wyden
Oh, and CNN'S Erin Burnett is a republican too.
10:53 PM on 12/16/2011
The President’s failure to offer credible solutions to the challenges facing Medicare is a disservice to seniors, a disservice to hardworking families, and a disservice to the next generation---Obama's failure is a lame congress.
10:23 PM on 12/16/2011
The people us this country need to support the "Occupy" movement. "We the people" need to hold strong against those that would pull more money from those people that worked hard to secure a sound future . The republicans accused Obama care of having a death panel. This would be a death sentence to a lot of people. Many peoples livihood would be stripped and they would be forced into economic ruin.
WE the PEOPLE needto "occupy" this land. IT belongs to us . We are not a land of slave to be under bondage to any form of government other than democracy. I'll take four more years of Obama.
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
04:02 PM on 12/16/2011
Are they holding Wyden's family hostage or something? Is he retiring and trying to secure himself a position in a pharmaceutical company? Why is he selling out America like this?
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Quinterius
Accept no dogmas
10:31 PM on 12/16/2011
He thinks he is very reasonable. Obama is completely silent, as usual. Maybe he is playing golf.
11:35 AM on 12/16/2011
None of you are entitled to my money. Atlas is Shrugging and the moochers are showing their true colors.
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CeePeeDee
"Morning in America" began the end of our era.
12:53 PM on 12/16/2011
My bet's that you have no money. My bet's that you pay little in taxes.
10:44 PM on 12/16/2011
you are probably correct. I live in the deep south and you would be shocked by the number of DA that make remarks such as the former one you replied to. There are so many of those locals that criticize Obama and "the moochers". Many arethose that still live off someon elses income and unemployment when they can get it. Yet they oppose this administraion because a black man is our President. How sad these for these ignorant group of people that are being led away. I pay taxes on every dime I spend,property taxes,state , county and federal taxes, I know of no better way for my tax dollar to be spent than on helping people especially the seniors. I do not regret my moeny being spent on" entitlement programs". Just because programs are abused doesn't mean we should not help impoverished or misfortunate people. God help us not to turn our backs on our people , the sick and poor in this country.
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
04:03 PM on 12/16/2011
Ayn Rand is an idiot whose characters excel in a fictional universe that she invented in which the free hand of the marketplace is NOT a pickpocket like in the real world.
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Bascoda
Illigitimati non carborundum
09:38 PM on 12/16/2011
You might also check out her sources of income for the last 10 years of her life.
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429freckles
Ex Republican Now Devoted Democrat
11:30 AM on 12/16/2011
This idea stinks just as badly as the original GOP plan did. Wyden -- SHAME ON YOU.
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11:12 AM on 12/16/2011
this guy couldn't care less about his own constituents, nevermind the American People. He is a TP corporate shill and should NEVER be trusted, unless your last name is Koch!
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fauxnews lol
i am on the left so i must be right!
07:16 PM on 12/16/2011
thaaaaats right!!!
11:08 AM on 12/16/2011
I fully support crossing the isle, we need more people in congress who know how to properly compromise, BUT you have to be smart about it and you can't back suicidal plans like this that undercut core values of your own political party.

+1 for reaching across the isle.
-1000 for building a bridge to nowhere.
09:53 PM on 12/16/2011
Good for you ! ! Anything with Rand on it is no good !
10:45 PM on 12/16/2011
Kudos to you...well said ! !
11:03 AM on 12/16/2011
The only thing that needs to be done to save medicare, is to block the GOP from undercutting it further. The only problems that have surfaced in medicare are ones they have created so they would have something to point to and say see, its broken, lets get rid of it!

If only the GOP would turn their focus on their beloved bloated pentagon then maybe we could balance the budget. We've punched medicare, medicaid and social security as much as we can, they aren't magical never ending budget balancing pinatas, its time to go after the other elephant in the room...
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
04:05 PM on 12/16/2011
We need to start gutting the GOP welfare for the rich tax cuts program as well if we want to balance budgets. We're giving away way too much money for no reason other than that the top 1% bribes republicans and gets them to give them tax breaks.
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IT1579
04:43 PM on 12/16/2011
There have been no tax cuts for the rich. The top 10% continue to pay 70% of all federal income taxes while the parasites in the bottom 47% pay none.
05:58 AM on 12/17/2011
You libs still do not understand facts. The FACTS are, when taxes were cut (especially capital gains) MORE and i will say it again MORE money flowed into the treasury then any time in history. The problem is YOUR politicians on both sides of the aisle SPENT more then they got. LOOK AT FACTS. Why keep arguing with FACTS. Spending has to come down. The politicians look at social security because they RAIDED the fund since inception. It should have nothing to do with the tax dollars taken in, except the politicians borrowed from it and put in IOU's . POLITICIANS brain wash everyone into accepting less in S.S. and/or keep raising the retirement age until everyone will die off BEFORE they collect anything. Now all of you accept the continued "TAX BREAK" on payroll taxes. That is SOCIAL SECURITY money being stolen the obama administration now. Payroll taxes are S.S. money. If you would stop hating the rich, who btw, pay almost all of the income taxes in this country and start firing ALL politicians this country will go the way of every large empire in history. Liberals need to understand that you take so much money in, and you have that much to spend. Since most on welfare or the government dole (and i do not include ss recipients since they paid into the program) they dont understand you can only spend what you make, since they have never made any.
10:52 AM on 12/16/2011
Wyden needs Ryan's support on other issues that are personally important to him or something more privately discussed.

Given the Ryan Plan's toxicity and the public animus against it, what other logical reason would justifu a leader in the Democratic Party getting any where near a plan designed by Ryan going into an election year?
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
04:05 PM on 12/16/2011
His family kidnapped tortured and held hostage?
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Medicine13ear
Joy cometh in the morning.
07:26 AM on 12/16/2011
Senator Wyden, my beloved Senator, WTF???!!!

My spouse and I were JUST TODAY singing the praises of you and our Oregon junior Senator Jeff Merkley for being two of only six (disgraceful!) Dems to vote against NDAA and now YOU are giving cover to the Repubs dismantling Medicare?!!?!

I, and legions of Oregonians, Democrats, Progressives, Americans feel devastatingly BETRAYED!