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Financial Transaction Tax Sparks Hopes That Obama Will Play Robin Hood In 2012


First Posted: 12/16/11 02:25 PM ET Updated: 12/16/11 02:25 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- Advocates of a tiny but lucrative tax on financial transactions are increasingly hopeful that President Barack Obama's need to more firmly establish himself as the Main Street candidate in 2012 will lead him to back the measure.

The tax -- though nearly inconsequential on a per-trade basis -- would reap billions in revenue from Wall Street's most rapacious institutions while also cutting down on their incentive to engage in the high-stakes, lightning-fast gambling that has proven particularly lucrative for them, at the expense of others.

Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) and Rep. Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.) introduced legislation last month that would impose a 0.03 percent fee on financial transactions, an amount so small that its sting would only be felt by speculators who rapidly move vast sums in and out of trading positions.

But because of the enormous volume of transactions, the new tax would still raise $350 billion in next 10 years, according to nonpartisan congressional scorekeepers.

The bill is "generating some interest in the White House, and I'm hopeful that the president will pick up on this," said Harkin, a fifth-term senator.

"I think there's interest in the White House at looking at sources of revenue, and I think this is one that's got their interest," Harkin said. "They haven't said yes, they haven't said no."

Mike Lux, a progressive strategist, said he thinks that despite some internal opposition within the administration -- most notably from Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner -- the tax may be an idea whose time has come.

"I know that Geithner remains adamantly opposed to it, but I also get the sense that the political folks in the White House understand that Geithner's positioning isn't always the right thing for the president to do politically," Lux said. "There is sort of a growing awareness of that."

A White House spokesperson, asked to explain the administration's current position, referred The Huffington Post to a Treasury spokesperson, who declined to comment.

DeFazio, who co-founded the Congressional Progressive Caucus, said that Obama's endorsement of the bill "would be great for the country and it would also be very helpful in his reelection bid."

"People are really, really, really angry at Wall Street," DeFazio said. "Wall Street destroyed the real economy of the United States through their gambling and recklessness. They're profiting handsomely. None of them went to jail and they're back to doing the same thing all over again."

A transaction tax proposal "would resonate not only with Democratic activists and Occupy Wall Street types, but also with many who affiliated with the Tea Party in the last election because they were real angry about what happened to them and the economy, and they have seen no action by the Justice Department, and bailout after bailout," he added.

The financial transaction tax, sometimes referred to as the financial speculation tax, also has a nickname: The "Robin Hood tax." Its popularity transcends borders, and, as The New York Times reported a few weeks ago, it has "an array of influential champions, including the leaders of France and Germany, the billionaire philanthropists Bill Gates and George Soros, former Vice President Al Gore, the consumer activist Ralph Nader, Pope Benedict XVI and the archbishop of Canterbury."

The bill has also had champions within the Obama administration. Ron Suskind, in his book "Confidence Men: Wall Street, Washington, and the Education of a President," described how former budget director Peter Orszag actively pushed the idea with Obama.

Orszag argued that such a move would calm the markets, while showing deficit hawks that Obama was serious about raising more revenue, Suskind reported. And Orszag is hardly the Occupy type. In fact, he's so Wall-Street friendly that he left his job at the White House to go work for Citigroup.

According to Suskind, Obama embraced the idea, even saying at one meeting that "we are going to do this!" But Larry Summers, then the director of Obama's National Economic Council, apparently spoke out against the idea.

Orszag declined to comment for this article.

DeFazio noted that the personnel changes that have occurred within the administration may have an effect. "It may be that finally, with Larry Summers gone, that perhaps the president is able to assert his desires over that of the Wall Street-oriented economic team," he said.

"There hasn't been much daylight between the president's economic team and those on Wall Street," he said. But coming out for the tax would allow Obama "to create a little daylight and a little distance sand say, 'Yeah, I get it.'"

Suskind, in an interview, said he thinks movement is possible. "I pressed some people on this. Their position was that it is an arrow in our quiver -- and we don't have that many," he said. He said he also got the impression that Obama's team was considering waiting until the right moment, and continuing to reap Wall Street money in donations until then.

Lux, however, said there's no time to waste.

"I think with the Teddy Roosevelt speech last week [in which Obama outlined a populist economic vision], they now need to look for some new policy ideas to show that they're being bold, that they're being tough on Wall Street -- and I think this is a perfect one for them to take on," Lux said.

"The later it gets into a campaign year, the less credibility legislative proposals tend to have with people," he added.

Some on the left have objected to the Harkin/DeFazio proposal, saying that they don't think it would go far enough.

Michael Lighty, director of public policy for National Nurses United, a group that frequently finds itself out front on social issues, sees the proposal as a fig leaf that he is afraid will be irresistible to Obama.

"It's the perfect solution for a president wanting to look like he's doing something without really alienating Wall Street," Lighty said. The Harkin/DeFazio bill proposes a levy of 3 cents per $100; National Nurses United wants to set it at 50 cents.

"We'd like the president to come out there and say yes, Wall Street needs to pay to rebuild Main Street -- and not just for deficit reduction, and not just for chump change, but for something that will make a real difference in the economy," Lighty said.

Harkin, however, says that $350 billion in 10 years is "nothing to sneeze at."

For now, the administration's official position is that it does not support a transaction tax -- instead, it supports what it calls a financial responsibility fee, something Obama first proposed almost two years ago.

That fee, which would raise only a fraction of the revenue of the transaction tax, would be paid by financial institutions with more than $50 billion in assets, based on leverage and risk. It would essentially be a fee for being -- and acting -- "too big to fail."

Jared Bernstein, a former senior White House economic adviser now at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, said Obama's staff discussed a transaction tax as one possibility.

But, he said, "we landed where we landed, which was on the financial responsibility fee, which seemed more responsive to the problem of over-leverage."

"It scratches a different itch," he said. "It doesn't scratch speculation and volatility, but it scratches leverage, which struck us as extremely important."

But the proposal has been a dismal failure, both in terms of getting a foothold in Congress and as a political statement.

One of the top arguments against the transaction tax has been that it would drive trading away from the U.S. financial markets -- thereby hurting the economy and also failing to raise the anticipated revenue. But the respected Joint Tax Committee's projections that it would bring in $350 billion in the next decade likely settled that argument.

Advocates of the tax, furthermore, consider that estimate extremely conservative.

Damon Silvers, policy director for the AFL-CIO, sees the debate over the tax as presenting a simple choice between Wall Street and Main Street.

"A key hidden argument here is about whether or not we ignore hundreds of billions of tax revenue to protect the money that systemically significant financial institutions are getting from high-speed trading while we cut fuel aid for the poor and fire teachers," Silvers said. "The labor movement does not believe that is in the public interest."

Meanwhile, the European Union is proposing a considerably steeper financial transactions tax that would take effect in 2014 -- 0.1 percent, rather than the 0.03 percent that Harkin and DeFazio have proposed.

A possible sign that the administration is relaxing its view about the tax came just last month. Geithner, who had previously said that a European transaction tax could create "frictions," reportedly told leaders at the G-20 summit in Cannes in November that while the U.S. was still opposed to the tax, it would not block others from going ahead.

"If Europe moves toward a financial transaction tax, it will take a major U.S. argument against it off the table, and it's hard for me to see how the politics line up against it for a Democrat," Bernstein said.

Asked to elaborate on the Treasury Department's stance, a spokeswoman directed attention to two press briefings, at which senior administration officials essentially ducked the issue.

At one, deputy national security advisor Michael Froman said that Obama "shares the objectives" that European leaders "have in ensuring that the financial sector contributes an appropriate share to the resolution of crises." But, he added, "the administration has proposed one approach to that through the financial crisis responsibility fee. The Europeans have another approach."

The idea of a transaction tax in the U.S. is not new. The nation actually had one from 1914 to 1966. The modern version of it was first proposed by Nobel Laureate economist James Tobin in 1978, to address currency speculation he felt was damaging the real economy. "[M]y proposal is to throw some sand in the wheels of our excessively efficient international money markets," he wrote.

In a 1989 paper, a younger Larry Summers wrote: "Such a tax would have the beneficial effects of curbing instability introduced by speculation, reducing the diversion of resources into the financial sector of the economy, and lengthening the horizons of corporate managers."

Harkin says he plans to fight for his bill for as long as it takes.

"I'm going to keep pushing it and I'm going to keep talking about it," he said. "I don't think we're going to have a tax bill until we get a lot of things sorted out. I'm looking at this to be something that's in a package."

Obama's support would help, he said. "Obviously it'll have a better chance of passage if the president gets behind it."

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Dan Froomkin is senior Washington correspondent for The Huffington Post. You can send him an email, bookmark his page; subscribe to his RSS feed, follow him on Twitter, subscribe to him on Facebook, and/or become a fan and get email alerts when he writes.

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WASHINGTON -- Advocates of a tiny but lucrative tax on financial transactions are increasingly hopeful that President Barack Obama's need to more firmly establish himself as the Main Street candidate ...
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keramos 09:59 AM on 12/17/2011
Geithner, who had previously said that a European transaction tax could create "frictions,"
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mykelb
04:53 PM on 11/27/2012
It needs to be a 5% per trade tax. That would cut the risk takers down.
07:08 AM on 05/03/2012
Can we say TAX your Retirement funds!!! Wake up folks
Votr Ron Paul
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read matt taibbi
Neither left, nor right. Forward!
03:46 PM on 12/22/2011
This tax is a litmus test of where Obama stands between WS and OWS
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AndyWright68
Freedom is inevitable!
06:44 AM on 12/21/2011
All taxes are theft. More like robbery. If you do not or cannot pay, thugs with badges will chain you up, cage you up and steal your property. It's extortion with threats of violence against peaceful people to steal their hard earned money and it is immoral.

And if you resist they will brutalize you. If you defend yourself from this unprovoked assault they will shoot you down. USA~ComplyOrDlE!
02:24 PM on 01/12/2012
Let "them" brutalize you AND Ron Paul. Taxes are not theft and you are not in touch with reality. Bummer for you dude.
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Ted229
10:31 AM on 12/20/2011
".... would impose a 0.03 percent fee on financial transactions, an amount so small... "

Yea, give progressives time, and this tax won't be so small.
10:46 PM on 12/18/2011
This is Ludacris. They act like this will collect billions, it has been proven that when you tax something you get less of it, so there will be a way around it, not to mention that the only reason they are doing this is to take some free money from QE3 when it starts in the beginning of 2012. This is foolish, very foolish, what about the fact that MF Global went bankrupt after it baught european sovereign debt and now every large financial instutution in the world own government debt from all around the world, they are all going to have the same demise, There are only a few possible ways out, and it sure as hell aint raising taxes or spending more money.
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Jack Straw
11:01 AM on 12/19/2011
It will, just because you can't comprehend the concept doesn't mean it's flawed.
01:38 PM on 12/19/2011
The article clearly and directly says that reducing trading is one of the desired effects of this tax, as the article clearly states. If you are right, the tax will work, and on top of that will produce a nice revenue stream.

Current levels of trading have done nothing for small investors, those trying to eke out a retirement. They only benefit large brokerage firms, including those inside giant banks.
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shershomenow
Be part of the solution, not the problem.
06:06 PM on 12/18/2011
We pay taxes on everything we purchase, except food. Tell me again, why the day traders should be exempt from paying taxes on what they buy. There are $10 trillion in stocks being bought and sold annually. At a penny tax for every hundred dollars of stocks purchased, that is $100 billion in tax revenue, a trillion every 10 years. I would think that since Wall Street, the banks mortgage bubble, and the unfunded wars came close to bankrupting the US, they can easily pay a penny for every hundred.
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Karen StovallStringer
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01:41 PM on 12/18/2011
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The car is a whole other story. If you want to buy one, look for a city or, even better, an outside-the-city-limits dealer to get a better deal. There you pay the state sales tax but no city or county taxes. Some cities even charge a property tax on vehicles under 5 years of age.
School-aged or college kids? Doesn't matter, you have to pay school and college taxes anyway as part of your property taxes. One taxing district can make you or break you when it comes to property, school, et al, taxes.

Now, I've read this as being a "transaction tax" or a "transaction fee," and danged if there is a difference I can see. If I want to buy tax-free munis, will I have to pay a transaction tax (fee)? Is this just for "stock market transactions?" What about commodities?

Somebody, or a lot of someones, have been dipping into the kittie. We pay, we pay, we pay, and we end up with a multi-trillion dollar deficit. Something is broke. I hope to heck that gets fixed before the litter box gets filled back up with more dollars that can be skimmed by someone who is into skimming.
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Karen StovallStringer
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01:38 PM on 12/18/2011
An investor is not an invester is not an investor. Some are willing to take huge risks. Nay, not just huge but life and death risks. The kind that can result in suicides. Long-term growth is like a death knell to the big risk-takers. They want to get in when a stock first becomes available on the market then ride it like surfing a wave then dive off the surf board when the value of the stock hits a glass wall that not all investors can even see. These high-risk investors particularly love to work with opium (OPM aka Other Peoples' Money).

Already we are taxed coming and going. Part of our taxes go to the county hospital where lots of us were born. We get taxed out the wazoo when we die. Even our heirs, if they are lucky, have to pay an inheritance tax. Our coffin, the cemetery, the clergy who conducts the ceremony get paid and have to pay taxes on that.

If we want to go out and have a nice meal, maybe take in a movie, we pay an entertainment tax in addition to the sales taxes. Not to mention we paid tax on the gasoline that let us get to the restaurant.

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shershomenow
Be part of the solution, not the problem.
06:11 PM on 12/18/2011
This is exactly the point. We pay taxes on everything we buy, why should the day traders be exempt?
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Wayne Caswell
Consumer Advocate & Founder of Modern Health Talk
10:26 AM on 12/18/2011
Such an effort would encourage investors to focus on long-term growth rather than short-term profit, causing corporations to make strategic decisions too. That's got to be good for the economy. I'd even argue that the tax should be much higher, like 15%, to make up for th fact that Capital Gains tax is so low. A 15% investment tax plus a 15% capital gains tax is still less than the top income tax rate. Maybe the concept should extend to homes too, to discourage flipping and encourage long-term investment.
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Karen StovallStringer
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03:04 PM on 12/18/2011
What's wrong with flipping? They are spending money on goods and services to restore the property then, hopefully, selling it to someone who will live there long-term. They are providing jobs and Lord knows we need a lot of those.
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shershomenow
Be part of the solution, not the problem.
05:58 PM on 12/18/2011
Actually, there is automatic taxes built in when flipping houses. You buy a house at a low price, you pay a set percentage, when you sell for a higher price, the buyer pays taxes on the price paid. Plus taxes were paid on the material and labor to increase the value.
08:36 AM on 12/18/2011
It will just be another good idea to "compromised away" during the negotiations with the Republicans.
08:27 AM on 12/18/2011
Running out of other peoples money to spend? Call 1-800-HEY-CHINA
05:42 PM on 05/26/2012
Hey China - and that's exactly where US businesses would run if Obama could be so economically masochist as to do to America what these transaction tax people suggest. Hong Kong would be laughing. Singapore, Canada, London, Switzerland - they want your business. Some people that comment on this have no idea what it would mean for the US and for them.
07:35 AM on 12/18/2011
Democrats (and Huff Post) ALWAYS hope for higher taxes. Harkin (and Huiffington) never saw a tax he (she) didn't want...or one they didn't want to raise.

The idea of cutting down on lightening fast trades may be a good idea. If so, ban them. Don't raise taxes on them. People who invest already pay a capital gains tax. How many times to Democrats (and so-called journalists) have to tax he same thing?
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splashy
Really?!?!!!
02:24 PM on 12/18/2011
The capital gains tax is lower than income tax, so the people doing these trades can easily afford to pay this miniscule tax.
10:24 PM on 12/18/2011
Yes that's right. But the point with the capital gains tax is simple. The money of the investor is AT RISK. He may make money OR he may lose money. The lower rate of the capital gains tax is an inducement for investors to risk their capital for the good of society--to build businesses, construct properties, create jobs, housing, stores, industries, restaurants, etc. These things ignite commerce and income upon which many taxes are paid. This the mother's milk of free enterprise, growth and prosperity.

It is also the thing that Obama and his left-wing gang in the White House fail to understand, which is why we are in a dismal recovery in which millions of Americans suffer through unemployment, foreclosures, poverty, unpaid loans, etc. Obama teaches AMerica to disdain free enterprise. It is a serious fault.

Free enterprise is not the enemy of America. It is the secret of America.

Obama is raising a whole generation of Americans who don't understand, because they have never known the joy and pride of participating in prosperity. They cry for higher taxes. It is like slashing the tires on the engine of enterprise, poisoning the wells, greasing the tracks.
01:42 PM on 12/19/2011
So what if Democrats and Huffpo want higher taxes? Vote for the Crazy Party: their theories and desires work so very well.
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akitadave
06:15 AM on 12/18/2011
There was a time when the people on wall street made this a stonger country, that time has passed.
There should be a 50% tax on the profits for all stock transactions held for less than 24 hours. And a sliding tax scale out to 90 days.

Geithner shoud be immediately fired. It is very obvious where his loyalties lie.
07:36 AM on 12/18/2011
Yes, Geithner should be fired. Obama can replace him with his good friend Jon Corzine. Hah!
11:55 AM on 01/11/2012
agreed its criminal we bailed them out and they take bonus, tax the living out of them
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05:36 AM on 12/18/2011
This tax makes perfect sense! It only "significantly" affects market makers and active traders...which make up few of all "investors"...

This does not affect main st. Joe or his pension fund...it affects the Gordon Geckos of the world....!
06:48 AM on 12/18/2011
So much for shared sacrifice.....OK if it hurts someone else, eh?
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splashy
Really?!?!!!
02:25 PM on 12/18/2011
Seriously, are you trying to say that the non-Geckos are not sacrificing?
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07:42 PM on 12/18/2011
"someone else"????

You mean the "criminals"...YEAH!!!! And I bet the rest of the country agrees!!!

what ya say, $10,000?