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Kim Jong Il Death: North Korea Talks With U.S. On Hold -- For Now

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Posted: 12/19/11 07:58 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- On the day after North Korean leader Kim Jong Il's death was announced to the world, top American diplomats were due to meet at the State Department to discuss their latest talks with the departed leader's regime.

It had been a busy weekend of negotiations with the North Koreans. Meeting in Beijing, envoys for the State Department had all but reached a deal to resume delivery of food aid, the Associated Press reported late Sunday -- just hours before Kim's death was made public.

The deal for food aid, reported to be 240,000 tons of high-protein biscuits and vitamins over the course of a year, would be just the first tangible step in a delicate dance of engagement that dates back many months and numerous meetings in Beijing, Geneva and the United Nations. U.S. officials hoped it would culminate in talks about, and possibly suspension of, North Korea's advanced nuclear weapons program.

Kim Jong Il had reportedly agreed to suspend the enrichment of uranium while talks proceeded, something the Americans had insisted upon as a precondition for any advanced negotiations.

Now, with Kim dead, and the enigmatic nation in the hands of his mysterious youngest son, Kim Jong Un, American officials are struggling to figure out what might become of those late-stage talks.

"We obviously will keep looking at this issue internally, and we, as I said, did have good conversations last week," said State Department spokesman Victoria Nuland on Monday, signaling that the talks at the very least were on hold while the North Koreans entered into a period of "national mourning."

"We need to see where they are and where they go as they move through their transition period," she said. "Meetings that might have happened today with our travelers who just got back instead were focused on maintaining close contact with our other partners in the Six-Party Talks, and on ensuring calm and regional stability on the peninsula. We have yet to have the internal review of these issues that we need to have."

Several former State Department negotiators told The Huffington Post that, given the circumstances, a certain amount of confusion and halting steps were to be expected.

"People are obviously in a state of some puzzlement and that's probably driving this," said Evans Revere, a former negotiator and now a senior director of the Albright Stonebridge Group. "We'll see. This is, obviously, early days."

But while some reports have indicated that the negotiations may be largely thwarted by Kim Jong Il's death, a senior State Department official told The Huffington Post that the talks are expected to proceed apace, after the mourning period.

"No one is talking about delaying," the official said, adding that it's simply "not likely we'll see additional movement any time soon." The official also denied that any final decisions had been made about food aid at the discussions last week.

It's next to impossible to know what the new North Korean leader might have in mind for his nation's relationship with the West; even basic facts about him, like his exact age -- he is said to be either 27 or 28 -- are still unknown to much of the world.

Several analysts have speculated that Kim Jong Un might attempt a radical move -- perhaps a military strike or more aggressive missile tests, like the one carried out early Monday morning in the Yellow Sea -- in an effort to burnish his legitimacy as a powerful leader.

Victor Cha, a Bush administration official who worked on North Korea issues, wrote in an essay in the Financial Times that the new leader is so unknown and unestablished that engaging with him right away "is not advisable."

Other experts and former negotiators argue that, barring signs of a radical shift in policy from the North Koreans, the Americans' best option for the moment would be to patiently hold course.

"The North Koreans are on a certain trajectory which is not so bad compared to where they were a year and a half ago," said Joel Wit, another former diplomat and one of the founders of the Korean Peninsular Energy Development Organization. "I would argue that we need to continue on this trajectory and wait to see what the North Koreans say, and we need to see if there's continuity in their policy. The pause button is fine, we should wait for the North Koreans to see what they should do. But for us to back away is a mistake."

"We're in a new world," Revere said. "The era of Kim Jong Il is over and a new era is about to begin, the shape of which is not very clear."

"One of the things that to keep in mind is that while the death may have been sudden, it was not unexpected," Revere added. "The North Koreans have been preparing for this day for years, if not months. So I think the first thing everybody needs to do is take a deep breath and realize, yeah, we are in a kind of new era because we've got a new person in charge, but we are in a place they've been preparing to be in for quite a bit of time."

Leon Sigal, the director of the Northeast Asia Cooperative Security Project and an expert on North Korean diplomacy, said that in 1994, when Kim Jong Il's father passed away, the Clinton administration was similarly in an advanced stage of negotiations with the regime, something it managed to continue for some time with the new leadership. That situation seems to have replicated itself today.

"Kim Jong Il did this, he put himself on the line to say that he was ready to suspend enrichment," Sigal said. "The question is, can Kim Jong Un put himself in those footsteps? Nobody knows what this guy is going to be for."

Several analysts said Monday that the course for future negotiations -- and the intentions of Kim Jong Un -- should be revealed as soon as the coming days. If it takes longer than that for negotiations to restart, it could be a sign of trouble.

"If we get into next year, given the discussions that have already taken place on this, one might begin to think that the period of likely opportunity was beginning to pass," said Scott Snyder, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, during a briefing for reporters Monday.

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Stokes
09:07 AM on 12/20/2011
I was inspired to put this down on paper on 11-10-1983 and first posted in HP on 10-16-2007­. " Beneath the antagonism is a want of peace. The time is here for the nations to accept or reject the laws of the Almighty Father. Believe that the Almighty Father has His arms outstretch­ed to welcome His children home. Altogether the nation of the North Abounds Across the Seas and Inland to Places not warrated. This bare and obvious fact has the entire world in turmoil. There will arrive a victory for the oppressed when an Ordained Prince of Egypt will gather together a mighty army to ward off the Fiery Darts of the Northern atheistic nation." (On a personal note, I believe this will be an army of diplomats filled with empathy and compassion , that is, no Boltons or the like.”
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AlfredE69
Occupy Election '12: Vote 3rd Party
08:56 AM on 12/20/2011
It's way past time for the US to pull its troops from South Korea.
nam medic
Service above Self ...Always
07:06 AM on 12/20/2011
We have subsidized North Korea and their evil leaders for two decades. What did the United States get and how did North Korea respond to our aid? Kim Jong Ill shot missles across Japan and theatened to incinerate Los Angeles. On the domestic front, Kim starved the North Korean people.

Great job State Department and special kudo's to Madam's Albright, Rice, and Clinton.
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FACTISFACT
A war veteran. Finally retired
04:00 AM on 12/20/2011
The schedule talk may be kept on the hold due to Kim Jong II 's death but there will be no obstruction to holding the talk after the situation cools down. The West and countries of the world should not live on speculating any tassel with regard to the transition of power as Kim Jong II arranged it much before his death with China during his surreptitious visit to China in 2010 making China as the care taker country of North Korea.

Yes, time has emerged to think from now that North Korea would play the role as Israel plays the role of the best friend and ally of US but with a difference in that North Korea would never dare to raise its eyes and dare to talk insolently like Israel does and also will never use the shoulders of China to fire the guns for its interest as Israel does for its self interest and US has to misuse its veto power to bailout itself of the trouble Israel created every time for US. What is the use of having such friend and notorious and mischievous Ally. It will be much better without such horrendous ally.

There is lot of research needs to be done to find out the difference between North Korea and Israel in their style of performing the same role henceforth.

Yes, pew may have more researches to do on subjects as new day has emerged after the death of Kim Jong II.
01:18 AM on 12/20/2011
The US should end all talk with North Korea. We (US, Japan, South Korea) should end all aid to North Korea. We should tell China that North Korea is 100% their problem.
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GaryNOVA
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02:26 AM on 12/20/2011
these talks are inevitabar!!!!!!
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AlfredE69
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08:57 AM on 12/20/2011
The US should end aid to all nations and pull bring all its troops back home.
12:22 AM on 12/20/2011
Do liberals ever give it a rest? Is every event an obama propaganda opportunity for the poodle press?

"Kim Jong Il's Death Threatens To Undermine U.S. Negotiations"

This is a rogue state who has never kept any agreement. Yet the obama shills would have you think there was some sort of progress. Of course they try to claim credit for something that will never occur.
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jimdavis11
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02:01 AM on 12/20/2011
You should have Googled: "Bush policy of aid to North Korea" before making such a stupid, idiotic, untrue statement.
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jimdavis11
Protect and promote the middle class.
02:05 AM on 12/20/2011
Google "Bush policy of aid to North Korea"
11:14 PM on 12/19/2011
There is not a"wet" eye anywhere in the North and in the south there is, that is, crying for joy that there is a slim chance Korea might have a sane leader again. doubtful but possible.
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11:53 PM on 12/19/2011
This may be a turn for the worse.
12:23 AM on 12/20/2011
The South Koreans are far wiser than your post.
02:29 AM on 12/20/2011
Explain.
10:32 PM on 12/19/2011
The new Kim Jong looks like an Asian Pugsley Addams
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Who what why wOOF
Don't expect anything in return
10:32 PM on 12/19/2011
If they, the North Korean people worship or worshiped the "Dear Leader" as a God, now that he's dead where does he go? To a special heaven for dead living Gods? Not the "normal" heaven, right? I'm confused? Does anyone know about this sort of thing?
10:23 PM on 12/19/2011
How entertaining would it be for Trey Parker to write his eulogy?
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AMERICABLESSGOD
It's the least we can do
10:13 PM on 12/19/2011
It's really sad that this loving, kind, misunderstood "Dear Leader" never had the chance to see President Obama bow down to him and apologize for American atrocities around the world.

God help those poor, starving enslaved people of North Korea. The next Dear One is the same as the last, just younger and stronger. This country is a fine example of opression under a totalitarian at its worse. Don't let it happen here.
Cacey
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11:50 PM on 12/19/2011
I really don't post like this. But...You are a complete idiot.
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jimdavis11
Protect and promote the middle class.
02:11 AM on 12/20/2011
That is exactly why I support the OWS movement.
10:11 PM on 12/19/2011
We recently visited North Korea and do not see the designated successor holding on to power. For more about our trip to the isolated DPRK along with photos see: http://www.changesinlongitude.com/category/destinations/asia-destinations/north-korea-travel/
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09:55 PM on 12/19/2011
They already started to demonize his son and fantasize how unpredictable he is and how because of his inexperience power fight may emerge and nuclear nuclear nuclear... Kremlenologs and CIA showed that their analysis of Soviet Union was completely wrong but nevertheless justified huge military funding. President called... president of South Korea. They can't let the jewel of axis of evil slip.
12:12 AM on 12/20/2011
Exactly. The reality is there is not going to be significant "instability" in North Korea because the real power in the country is, and always has been, the Workers Party and the military. These institutions are not suddenly going to fall apart or start fighting amongst themselves just because Kim is dead. Instead they will ensure an orderly transition, just as they did in 1994.
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google"bush obama deficit chart""gutsy call gates"
09:47 PM on 12/19/2011
the hair dye and glasses ain't foolin' anyone Newt
09:40 PM on 12/19/2011
So many comments in this nation about Kim's death are laughable. They applaud the death of a dictator, then defend the kingpins of our corporate dictatorship and their servants in Congress. They speak against Chavez (who was vindicated after refusing to fall for Bush's "free trade" scam and remaining independent), then defend the destroyers of our economy and environment.