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Seattle Plastic Bag Ban: Officials Vote To Ban Bags, Aim To Reduce Pollution

DONNA GORDON BLANKINSHIP   12/19/11 09:00 PM ET   AP

SEATTLE — The Seattle City Council voted Monday to ban single-use plastic bags from groceries and other retail stores, joining a growing trend among cities that embrace green values.

The ordinance, which was approved unanimously following months of discussion and debate, takes effect in July 2012. It includes a provision to charge a nickel fee for the use of paper bags, to encourage people to bring their own bags when they go shopping.

The paper bag fee is not unique. In Washington, D.C., businesses that sell food or alcohol must charge 5 cents for each carryout paper or plastic disposable bag.

The ban is expected to reduce pollution, free up landfill space and improve the environment. Seattle's residents use 292 million plastic bags and 68 million paper bags a year. About 82 percent of paper bags are recycled, while only 13 percent of plastic bags are recycled.

Nearby communities such as Mukilteo, Edmonds, Bellingham and Portland also have banned plastic bags.

Numerous municipalities across the country – including Eugene, Ore., Austin, Texas, and Jackson, Wyo. – are also considering laws to restrict the use of plastic bags.

The Seattle council voted to charge a 20-cent fee on paper and plastic bags in 2008, but the plastics industry spent $1.4 million backing a referendum to overturn it. Voters defeated the fee in 2009.

Officials in the industry haven't said whether they would launch another referendum, but they have stated they'd push for a statewide bag recycling program similar to those in several states.

Councilmember Mike O'Brien, the bill's prime sponsor, said he felt the months of work on this proposal, with lots of input from both businesses and environmental groups, resulted in an ordinance that will work for everyone.

He noted that low-income people who can show eligibility in a food assistance program will not be charged the paper bag fee.

Council President Richard Conlin commended the council and advocates for the positive way the ordinance evolved and the substantive public involvement in the process.

"It's going to really make a difference for our environment," he said.

During a short public comment session at the beginning of the meeting, four people dressed as "bag monsters" in costumes made from plastic bags serenaded the council with a holiday tribute. Only one person spoke out against the ordinance, saying she wondered if the ban would really help the environment and remove plastic already in the Puget Sound.

Even in the Evergreen state, reaction to the ban vote was mixed.

"We were not expecting a unanimous vote, but we knew that seven of nine councilmembers co-sponsored the ordinance," said Katrina Rosen, field director for Environment Washington, a statewide advocacy group, from a celebration at a Seattle restaurant.

Rosen called Seattle one of the largest cities to pass such a ban, but a similar ban in San Jose, Calif., goes into effect Jan. 1. San Jose has 946,000 residents compared with Seattle's 608,000. A plastic bag ban in Los Angeles County, but not the city, went into effect in July.

Hilex Poly Co., the country's largest plastic bag manufacturer, believes the ban pushes consumers toward more resource-intensive alternatives.

"By voting to implement a ban on plastic bags, the city of Seattle misses the opportunity to lead the way toward the meaningful reduction of litter through increased statewide recycling efforts," said Mark Daniels, vice president of sustainability and environmental policy for the company, in a written statement.

The Northwest Grocery Association, which represents QFC, Safeway and Fred Meyer stores in the state, supports the ban, but a group representing independent grocery stores does not.

"Tiny bits of plastics, including plastic bag film, are being found in all water samples taken in Puget Sound," said Heather Trim, Policy Director of People For Puget Sound, in a statement. "Reducing the use of single-use plastics, like bags, will make a difference for the health of wildlife in Puget Sound and out in the Pacific."

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Associated Press writer Phuong Le contributed to this report.

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12:40 PM on 12/21/2011
A more truthful headline would have been "Seattle Plastic Bag TAX: Officials Vote To TAX Bags, Aim To Reduce Pollution.

Charging a nickle to use something isn't a ban.
12:30 PM on 12/21/2011
me + you... we can make a difference each time we choose to re-use a reusable shopping bag.
http://www.meandyou.ca/
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FaceTheTruth00
I'm a girl.
12:18 PM on 12/21/2011
Lots of people talk about reusable "green" bags. Has anyone read the myriad of articles about such bags? Like the fact that there is a lot of contamination? Like E-coli and Salmonella kinda contamination.

http://www.gazettenet.com/2011/12/03/reusable-bags-carry-germs-and-groceries

The problem is, with reusable bags, you are going to have to maintain them. And that means creating something that is probably fabric-based and washable- in a washing machine. So now, not only do people have to remember to keep their reusable bags in their cars at all times when they might need to pick up some groceries, but they have to also wash them regularly.

I'm not saying maintenance is a big deal; I'm just saying most people won't do it.

Here's an article about such bags being contaminated with lead. http://www.thedailygreen.com/green-homes/eco-friendly/lead-in-reusable-shopping-bags-461110

I'm not saying that reusable bags are a bad idea. I'm just saying they are not a wonder "cure" for weaning people away from plastic.
08:05 AM on 12/21/2011
This is so wrong on many levels. If my grocer wants to give me a free plastic bag to carry my food home in, it is none of your business. It only becomes your business when I toss it out the window onto the street. Then I could be fined. That is OK. Get the government OUT of my personal life when it comes to stuff like this. Between my grocer and me so but out!.
06:43 AM on 12/21/2011
Yeah, because why would a city where it rains all the time ever want to use plastic bags? And what will the dog-walkers do?

I remember when the environmentalists pushed plastic bags on everyone because they were recyclable and didn’t kill trees.
01:15 AM on 12/21/2011
AND IDTS FIGHT PLASTIC BAGS???

http://www­.thedailyg­reen.com/e­nvironment­al-news/la­test/bigge­st-pollute­rs-4702210­7#ixzz1h2r­ZV1UY”
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artleads
Let's have a national retreat.
11:48 PM on 12/20/2011
Is this the solution? The main harm of plastic bags is what they do the oceans. But what if there were strict rules against littering instead? Paper is no panacea. Paper is very nasty to manufacture, and it usually festers in landfill rather than decompose (as is widely believed it does).
08:08 AM on 12/21/2011
So true. People do not realize how much energy it takes to make a paper bag, ecen recycled paper bags. Pulp wood has to be grown, cut, milled, transported, bleached, cut again, and cut again, Chemically treated, packaged, shipped again. How much fuel is used? Plastic is so much greener than paper bags. Why is it so hard to see this?
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artleads
Let's have a national retreat.
12:54 PM on 12/21/2011
Thanks. Your response is exactly what's needed to educate people about the issue.
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
05:31 PM on 12/20/2011
Use paper bags and throw them in the landfill, it is a way of sequestering carbon.
Same with your old newspapers.
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02:33 PM on 12/20/2011
Banning plastic bags is a step in the right direction. However, this also needs to apply to retail stores not just supermarkets. So many plastic bags are tossed away everyday from customers buying clothes, shoes, etc.

Project GreenBag is the sustainable, eco-friendly alternative to plastic bags. 100% organic cotton, biodegradable, and made in California.
http://www.ProjectGreenBag.com
http://www.facebook.com/ProjectGreenBag
http://twitter.com/projectgreenbag
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StrawHat
Eat veggies, don't vote for them
08:48 PM on 12/20/2011
spamalot?
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12:10 PM on 12/21/2011
Now I know which side you stand on.
08:11 AM on 12/21/2011
Banning plastic bags is WRONG. It is NOT the government's business that my grocer gives me a free plastic bag to carry my food. NONE of your business either.
Also, People do not realise how much energy it takes to make a paper bag, even recycled paper bags. Pulp wood has to be grown, cut, milled, transporte­d, bleached, cut again, and cut again, Chemically treated, packaged, shipped again. How much fuel is used? Plastic is so much greener than paper bags. Why is it so hard to see this? .
Green bags are ggod for people who want to use them. Not me. I like plastic bags and I will use them even if outlawed. I will order my own and take them with me. Then I will throw them away like I do every day. Land fills are plenty.
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Son of Liberty 1765
Exposing Government Lies.
12:52 PM on 12/20/2011
nanny state
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dvncmdy
Perhaps they'll listen now Vincent
02:44 PM on 12/20/2011
States RIGHTS...remember? ohhhhhhhhhhhh....unless it doesn't suite you.
Epilef2000
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06:27 PM on 12/20/2011
Slightly right..

A ban is too draconian for some. So let the market decide--charge customers bag usage fee..it will create more profit for some and OSS who don't like "capitalism" can use hippie bags.. Il, do e latter..and I'm sure free market supporters wil support the former
08:12 AM on 12/21/2011
Yes!
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12:11 PM on 12/20/2011
I have many fabric totes and use them all the time. As a person who does not drive, they are much easier to carry when full of groceries, then plastic. Also, I have no pets, so no use for plastic bags. Fine with me, if I never have to deal with another plastic bag at all!
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Tom Iarossi
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12:08 PM on 12/20/2011
Come on folks, this is an easy one. Reusable bags reduce waste, save resources, and for me are easier and more efficient to use. They can even be another revenue stream for stores as people use them to make social and political statements. I have a dozen of them split between two high-mpg, low-mileage cars, and I love them. I mean, this really is a no-brainer.
05:58 AM on 12/21/2011
Well aren't you just Mr. Perfect.
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littlepuffycloud
I propose a toast to my self control...
11:43 AM on 12/20/2011
Aww nuts! I'm going to miss seeing all the pretty plastic bags stuck in tree branches when I visit my fam in Oklahoma where the wind comes sweeping down the plains.
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StrawHat
Eat veggies, don't vote for them
11:19 AM on 12/20/2011
@ Caroleeeena: "You need to lay off the coffee."

You need to learn how to debate and discuss macro-level topics (politics, environmental policy, etc.) without making it personal -- or taking it personally.

You also need to learn that if you attack someone (as you did on the thread about the Winter Solstice) then there's a better than even chance that that person (or someone else) will take offense and respond in kind.

The reason that I don't use the "fan" feature is that I won't always agree with everyone on every topic -- sometimes we might agree 100% on one topic and be diametrically opposed on a different topic -- and it's just too exhausting to keep track of it. If you want to fan me, that's fine. If you want to un-fan me, that's OK, too. I respect your decision, but it won't change the fact that I think you were kinda rude on the Winter Solstice thread.

Oh, and I still think the plastic bag ban in Seattle is a useless, silly, "feel good" gesture that will do almost nothing to improve the pollution of Puget Sound and the Pacific Ocean -- all it will do is inconvenience people and force them to buy boxes of plastic bags for things like picking up dog poo, carrying their wet bathing suits from point A to point B, etc.
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12:33 PM on 12/20/2011
Here's the thing, you can have a discussion and not attack people. Well, you might not be able to but it can be done. You have to WANT to do it. You have to want to respect people and have a sharing of ideas rather than thinking of it as a fight you're trying to win or something.

And you call me rude. You've been nothing but rude to me. You project. A lot.
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StrawHat
Eat veggies, don't vote for them
01:09 PM on 12/20/2011
You're the one who made it personal. You're the one who is continuing to make it personal.

To me, you're a screen name and some words on the internet. That's about it. I don't have a big emotional charge going on about you.

You ranted at someone for making a perfectly elegant and funny little comparison between the "Mayan calendar ending = the end of the world" nonsense and the Harry Potter books ending (yeah, the books ending do not = the end of the world) and other ancient calendars ending (also do not = the end of the world.)

I have no idea why you got so excited about it and needed to dump on him about it. I honestly began to wonder if you simply didn't understand the post (hence my ESL question.)

The excitement on the internet is sometimes all in our own heads. I think this is a case in point.
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GirlUsingBrain
The most dangerous animal in the forest is man.
01:42 PM on 12/20/2011
How the ban is working elsewhere:

I have been using reusable bags for years and I have never felt inconvenienced.

Plastic bags were banned in my city months ago and it is inconveniencing no one.
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StrawHat
Eat veggies, don't vote for them
08:47 PM on 12/20/2011
How in the world could you conclude that "it is inconveniencing no one"?
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chaya
Another proud veteran
10:56 AM on 12/20/2011
Just pushes the costs off onto the customer. I use plastic grocery bags. I use them to pick up dog poo, to clean the kitty litter, to collect organic waste from the kitchen for recycling, to carry books, to tote things on camping trips, to collect rocks, to collect mushrooms, to line wastebaskets, and a million and one other needs. The ones I don't use, I gather up and carry into the store for recycling. Now I just have to go to the grocery store and BUY bags--much bigger bags that use much more plastic.

The plastic bag manufacturers should be happy. This should be a windfall for them.
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EmmaDarian
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01:27 PM on 12/20/2011
You could use reusable fabric (not plastic) bags for several of the things you listed. That would reduce your usage some, and help the environment. Just a thought.
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GirlUsingBrain
The most dangerous animal in the forest is man.
01:45 PM on 12/20/2011
I place my daily kitty litter waste in small paper bags (made from recycled paper). I think this is a good idea for dog waste, too. If this kind of waste is in plastic, it never degrades as it is preserved in that plastic.