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Wind Energy Tax Credit Advocates Urge Congress To Extend Measure


First Posted: 12/20/11 01:38 PM ET Updated: 12/20/11 01:38 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- A new study commissioned by the American Wind Energy Association says that if the Production Tax Credit, a lifeline for the burgeoning wind industry, is allowed to expire as scheduled at the end of 2012, it would eliminate about 37,000 jobs, while an extension of the credit could save and create 54,000 jobs.

"No industry can take such a big shift in cost structure," Nathanael Greene, director of renewable energy policy for the Natural Resources Defense Council, told HuffPost. "And this is an industry that supports almost 100,000 jobs."

Greene said the NRDC is urging supporters of clean energy to lobby their members of Congress to support the renewable energy tax credit, as well as working with interest groups such as the American Wind Energy Association and other stakeholders to extend the credit.

According to the American Wind Energy Association,the United States now boasts more than 40,000 megawatts of land-based installed wind power, which is enough to serve almost 10 million homes and prevent nearly 84 million tons of carbon dioxide from entering the atmosphere each year. Wind power in the U.S. now represents more than 20 percent of the world's installed wind power.

Despite the growth of the industry, wind power is still reliant on tax credits and subsidies. The Production Tax Credit, first introduced in the 2009 stimulus package, is chief among them.

Since then, the credit has provided a benefit of 2.2 cents per kilowatt-hour for the first ten years of a renewable energy facility's operation. According to a report by the American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy, in 2008, coal cost between 7 and 14 cents per kilowatt-hour and wind between 4 and 9 cents. The tax credit helps drive down the cost of renewable energies, making it easier for them to compete with traditional energy sources.

Greene said that the job growth in the renewable energy sector warrants further investment, citing a report by Environmental Entrepreneurs, a community of business leaders who promote sound environmental policy, that showed 36,000 clean energy jobs could be created in just 6 weeks.

Greene added, "This has really been an under-reported bright spot of our economy over the last three or four years now, while the economy has been in recession and jobs have been lost in most sectors. Clean energy sectors have added jobs, and added jobs much faster than the rest of the economy."

Opponents of wind energy contend that the wind turbines can negatively affect birds' migration patterns.

Newsobserver.com first reported that a San Francisco-based energy company, Pattern Energy Group LP, recently decided to abandon a project due to concerns over bird migration patterns.

"This would have been a strong source of wind power for California, which needs more renewable energy, but the right thing to do is abandon this project," said company CEO Mike Garland.

Greene noted that environmental concerns are inevitable with any large-scale project and defended the wind industry's environmental record.

"Any manmade development, whether it's a shopping mall, highway, natural gas well or wind turbine is going to have some environmental impact," he said. "The wind industry has done a remarkable job over the last 20 years of really getting a handle on 'what are the environmental impacts?' and 'how do you go out and find local experts on bird populations and migration patterns?' and doing it all fairly well. It's never going to be perfect."

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11:12 AM on 01/08/2012
You want to win the game, you gotta' play ball. It's a corrupt system, so they do indeed need to be a part of it, to get anything from it.

Like how AOLpo prints something useful: "Clean energy sectors have added jobs, and added jobs much faster than the rest of the economy." - Mr. Greene (Got to wonder if this guy changed his name purposefully.) And That Is Good News!!

Detractions and snipes to follow.
10:48 AM on 12/21/2011
Huff Po posters claim to be 99%'ers, and rally for the common man.

But what of the energy credits. They mainly go to industry and the rich that can afford to sink money into "green" assets that are not economically viable without huge subsidies and credits.

Consider the $7,500 tax credit for electric cars, including the $90-100,000 Tesla and the $45,000 Chevy volt that is almost $20,000 more than its gas powered equivalent and bases solely on gas costs would take 8 years to repay the higher initial cost without even factoring in the cost of electricity and long charging period opportunity costs.

Who can afford to buy for these green assets that cost more. The so called 1%'ers.

Who pays for those tax credits everyone.

Estimates have hit the news this week that in actual terms, each Chevy volt costs $250,000 to produce, operate and dispose of over its life. The cost of the credits, creation of infrastructure and charging stations, toxic waste disposal of spent batteries, cost of mining the toxic metals, etc etc are staggering. Much of this cost is passed on to the taxpayer, in a feel good shell game for an as of now impractical and economically nonviable product.

Stop credits, make green feel good toys like the volt stand on its 4 wheels. Then see how many really sell. And stop subsidizing the rich.. if they want to feel good, let them pay for the right.
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11:00 AM on 12/21/2011
The fossil fuel industry gets five times the subsidies and tax credits received by renewables.

You're complaining about getting bit by a chihuahua while there's a pit bull chewing your arm off.
02:56 PM on 12/21/2011
Fossils get a tiny fraction of the subsidy not so renewables get per kwh.
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11:14 AM on 01/08/2012
Faved for insight.
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yeti7
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04:18 PM on 12/21/2011
How much is GE gettting?
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11:15 AM on 01/08/2012
Look it up.
10:34 AM on 12/21/2011
The Cato Institute calculated the cost of subsidizin­­­­g oil to be in the range of $78-150 billion per year
02:57 PM on 12/21/2011
Not so renewables get more than that worldwide and orders of magnitude more per kwh.
traceymarie
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10:36 PM on 12/21/2011
lmao...worldwide, USA subsidies are 78-150 billion yearly.
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11:17 AM on 01/08/2012
Not so? No proof = no fact.
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yeti7
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04:20 PM on 12/21/2011
do you have the link for that "study" ?
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11:18 AM on 01/08/2012
Do you have a link for any of your outrageous claims? (rhetorical) No, you don't as yet. tic, tic, tic....
10:33 AM on 12/21/2011
The cost of oil, coal and nuclear keep rising every year while the price for wind and solar energy have dropped by 60% in the last 5 years and keeps on dropping.

Wind, solar, wave energy, geothermal and second generation biofuels made from algae, cellulose and waste are the future.

The world produces a lot of trash every day. That trash can now be turned into biofuel, energy (methane) and raw materials for new products. This provides inexpensive inputs for energy production while reducing the problems with landfills.
03:01 PM on 12/21/2011
Actually the cost of nuke power is dropping every year. Solar and wind costs are lower because of Chinese dumping.

Truly green Solar/wind with green storage is close to $2 per kwh - $60K per US household annually. Pie in the sky, wave energy, geothermal and second generation biofuels are even worse than wind solar. No future there.

Trash aka recyclables can produce only a tiny amount of energy.
09:40 PM on 12/21/2011
Someday.....but not today......
traceymarie
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10:38 PM on 12/21/2011
start today for tomorrow, educated minds know you prepare for the future not scramble when you have no choice.
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02:17 AM on 12/21/2011
Over the last two hundred years, the government spent a lot of money helping build canals, then railroads, then hydroelectric dams, then highways and airports, and then nuclear reactors. An argument can be made that the country was made stronger by the government getting involved in encouraging the development of each of these infrastructure projects, and I think the same argument applies to the development of alternative energy.

There is no entity other than the government that can lend the kind of support that is needed to develop alternative energy projects, and they are very desperately needed, in my opinion.
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
09:17 PM on 12/20/2011
Yes! Meanwhile Nukes get 500M$ per reactor per year in breaks, coal even more, and oil gets trillion dollar wars!!!!!!

Stop all fossil and nukes subsidies and breaks and transfer ALL of it to green energy.

Rooftop solar is cheaper than nukes.

Wind and waste bio char are half that ,

and efficiency is half that again!

together they can provide all the worlds energy, cheaper, clean, safe, 24/7, carbon land and water negative, and forever.
10:10 PM on 12/20/2011
You know I've asked Genders many times to list his so called nuclear subsidies. So far he has come up with exactly none which is the real number.

Nukes get no subsidy at all. cost 3 cents a kwh and are a tiny fraction of the cost of rooftop solar which starts at 40 cents kwh average US, + 20 cents for gas backup and transmission, + 100 cents for green storage. Wind runs about 20 cents cheaper. There is no such thing as waste bio fuel just dirty forest compost firewood burners.

Without green storage they can provide none of the world's energy.
01:34 AM on 12/21/2011
Wind can be profitably produced at $70/MWh (.07/kWh) assuming a decent wind resource (i.e. an NCF of ~35% or more). There are MANY such locations across the United States which are yet undeveloped, so it is untrue to state that wind costs 20 cents/kWh.

Regarding storage, currently wind energy provides roughly 2% of the total power production in the US. In order for intermittentcy to cause a potential security of supply issue, wind penetration must increase to around 30% or more. Thus, we have a very long way to go before this is even an issue. Even if wind reaches these levels, intermittenctcy can be mitigated by increasing the interconnectedness of the grid (it is very unlikely that the wind stops blowing everywhere at the same time) and by developing better storage techniques, which are advancing quickly right now.
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02:21 AM on 12/21/2011
The government was and still is involved in developing and improving the technology for nuclear power plants. The government helped with loan subsidies to build the nuclear power plants. The government reputedly oversees the safety regulations and inspections of nuclear plants. The government is involved with nuclear waste control.

Without government aid, the effort to build the current nuclear infrastructure never would have gotten off the ground.
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10:40 PM on 12/20/2011
Nuke subsides for instance: http://www.globalsubsidies.org/en/subsidy-watch/commentary/gambling-nuclear-power-how-public-money-fuels-industry
"Constellation's own presentations indicate that they think the federal nuclear production tax credit and construction loan guarantees alone will be worth US$ 575 million per reactor per year to them."
$13 billion in cradle-to-grave subsidies and tax breaks, 
http://www.citizen.org/cmep/article_redirect.cfm?ID=13779
Nukes got 54B$ in loan backing even though they have a 50% expected default rate! http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=4206&type=0 Bankrupting many utilities. http://www.publicbonds.org/public_fin/default.htm
http://www.ucsusa.org/assets/documents/nuclear_power/nuclear_subsidies_report.pdf

25 cent per kwh nukes 9$ per W average. http://energyeconomyonline.com/uploads/Is_New_Nuclear_Competitive_July_10_2009_FNS_Event.pdf

16 cents per KWH conservative cost of nuke power. new nukes 7$ per W.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_new_nuclear_power_plants

Solar is cheaper: http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/12/11/387108/solar-power-much-cheaper-than-most-realize-study/

http://solarcellcentral.com/companies_page.html first solar 2.5$ per Wp installed.

http://cleantechnica.com/2011/06/10/solar-power-graphs-to-make-you-smile/

http://solar.gwu.edu/Research/EnergyPolicy_Zweibel2010.pdf Great article about price of solar now 3$/W installed. last 100 years, 1-2 cents per KWH after the first 20 years and the loan is paid off.
11:47 PM on 12/20/2011
Once again just a bunch of irrelevant links and dated links that Genders never even reads. Not one subsidy listed.

For example there is only one loan guarantee for $8B issued out the the $80B the DOE has collected in a nuke power fund that it has yet to pay out a dime.

I give real costs of real and recent projects he lists circular quoted BSs from greenie blogs all of it dated.

Where is the list Genders? You can't produce and obviously you can't read.
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11:24 AM on 01/08/2012
Thanks for the links. Well said and documented. And the typical response is , oh well, that doesn't matter. Faved for persistence. You must have a ton of patience.
You can't prove anything to the people who refuse to see.
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08:55 PM on 12/20/2011
Charge international trading ships $2.00 per gallon of fuel burned..These ships consume at least 2 billion gallons per year of high sulfer fuel within the 200 mi. economic zone.WTO and IMO treaties restrict charges outside the zone.That would more than pay for the production tax credit I believe.....The cost to the shippers would be imputed to the imported goods but that would be offset by lower health care costs.We have an undersupply of care givers and a over supply of construction workers.....As Rumsfeld said "Go with what you got."
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
09:19 PM on 12/20/2011
Charge, tax, for pollution by Heavy metals, mercury, and everything but CO2 so you don't have to fight the climate change deniers. To me, it's just like a trash or sewer fee.

The great thing is it's a nearly perfect proxy for CO2.
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04:58 PM on 12/21/2011
tax anything that moves
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11:25 AM on 01/08/2012
The IRS wants to speak to you.
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07:28 PM on 12/20/2011
The fossil fuel dominated Congress will not extend this tax credit.
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08:58 PM on 12/20/2011
Santa needs to put some coal in theit Christmas stockings.That was a threat I grew up with.....
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01:23 AM on 12/21/2011
Or a few million gallons of spilled crude.
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alteredstory
Hold on to the center
12:06 PM on 12/21/2011
They'd just sell it or put it on their mantle or something.

We need to bring in Krampus for them...
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yeti7
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06:09 PM on 12/20/2011
But if the wind turbines stop spinning think about all the birds and bats that will be saved!
Do you all know how many birds like Eagles (a protected bird) are being killed by these wind turbines? Lots and lots.
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09:03 PM on 12/20/2011
Not so protected... now turbines are not located near rivers and lakes which are food sources.What about the mercury that goes from thje coal to the fish which are often unedible.
08:14 AM on 12/21/2011
The Columbia River Gorge east of Portland is lined with turbines. Heck fire, the turbines are less than a mile from the river.
09:42 PM on 12/20/2011
That's right. In California more golden eagles are dying by wind turbines than are being hatched each year. And how many millions did taxpayers spend to save them?
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05:46 PM on 12/20/2011
I stopped reading at "save and create 54,000 jobs. If wind and solar energy is so vital and needed why can't the industry stand on it's own without the taxpayers footing the tab? We've done save and create and it's cost us a trillion dollars with no noticeable result. While I'm at it the same goes for ethanol sucking up tax dollars,driving up the price of food,creating more CO2 than it eliminates,and reaking havoc on older and small engines.
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06:10 PM on 12/20/2011
54,000 jobs? where? Brazil where they happen to build these ugly things.
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07:28 PM on 12/20/2011
Ever been out of your basement to California or Texas?
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11:26 AM on 01/08/2012
(((Sniper alert!))))
Genders
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09:22 PM on 12/20/2011
Because of 500M$ per year per reactors for nukes and more for coal and oil. Didn't ya know?
10:06 PM on 12/20/2011
There is no subsidy for nuke plants none whatsoever.
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04:37 PM on 12/20/2011
Why are we discussing it now, it don't expire for a year. We need to be telling our representative to congress what we think of the shaft they just gave all of us.
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yeti7
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06:11 PM on 12/20/2011
shaft?
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10:18 AM on 12/21/2011
Who is the man that would risk his neck
For his brother man?
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11:27 AM on 01/08/2012
((((Sniper alert!)))
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11:34 AM on 01/08/2012
Drama at AOLpo is a marketing tool. Adds participation which brings in potential buyers who look at their adds. Or was the question rhetorical? Too late.
Noone's stopping you from using email after you've looked up their website. Don't stop at just your Representative, email your Senator(s) and the President as well. They always feign interest in hearing from you, via their staff, but eventually enough voices, sometimes register. In any event, takes all of six minutes max.
Snipers say what?
03:19 PM on 12/20/2011
I trust that all the Gopers caterwauling about "uncertainty" in our tax code will fully support the continuation of this program.
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11:27 AM on 01/08/2012
It's possible.
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02:34 PM on 12/20/2011
I'm all for it. We might as well put money in new energy infrastructure if we're going to try and get off nonrenewable stuff.
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02:39 PM on 12/20/2011
There is no such thing as renewable energy. We use it once and it is lost to us. We have to collect or convert new energy. Switching from fossil fuel energy to alternative energy is like an alcoholic switching from cheap vodka to expensive gin. Why don't we become energy efficient? Why don't we curtail waste? We don't have to pay for energy we don't use. I saved $100,000 over 28 years just by car pooling.
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03:15 PM on 12/20/2011
Well, unless the sun and wind go away from 'overuse', I don't know why we can't call it "renewable". So, really, your analogy falls apart.

But energy efficiency is also important, I'll give you that.
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yeti7
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07:00 PM on 12/20/2011
One close thing to renewable energy is nuclear energy.
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11:28 AM on 01/08/2012
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