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Women Veterans More Likely To Disapprove Of Iraq, Afghanistan Wars Than Male Counterparts

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First Posted: 12/22/11 06:09 PM ET Updated: 12/23/11 08:34 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Women veterans are more likely to be critical of the U.S. involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan than their male counterparts, according to a new survey by the Pew Research Center.

Sixty-three percent of female veterans say the war in Iraq was not "worth fighting," and 54 percent say the same of Afghanistan. Among male veterans, only 47 percent criticized the Iraq war and 39 percent disapproved of the efforts in Afghanistan, according to the poll.

Pew noted that the gender gap among veterans is wider than in the general public, where narrow majorities of both men and women believe the two wars were not worth fighting.

Kayla Williams is a linguist and former intelligence specialist in the U.S. Army, whose book Love My Rifle More Than You: Young and Female in the U.S. Army detailed her experiences during the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

She said she vividly remembered that her fellow service members' reactions the day after the 2004 election, when President George W. Bush beat Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), seemed in line with Pew's findings.

"The day after the election when I went to work -- and the first thing you do in the Army in the morning is PT, physical fitness training. Then I hit the showers and in the locker room -- all female -- the sentiment was universal," said Williams, who opposed the invasion of Iraq but went because it was her duty.

"All the females in the locker room who were showering said, 'Well, guess we're going to stay at war. Guess we're going to invade Iran next.' That was the sentiment. It was universally like, 'Oh, Bush got reelected. Now I'll have to tell my kids I'm going back to war.'"

The report by Pew researchers Eileen Patten and Kim Parker also found that compared to their male counterparts, a greater percentage of women in the military are black and fewer are married. They are less likely to have served in combat but experience "a similar mix of struggles and rewards upon returning to civilian life."

Since 1994, women have been barred from serving in units at the level of battalion and below that primarily engage in direct ground combat. They still, however, often find themselves in situations that require combat action.

Earlier this year, the Military Leadership Diversity Commission -- a high-level military advisory board established by Congress in 2009 -- recommended that the armed services overturn its policy barring women from serving in combat roles, a step that would remove a key structural barrier for women trying to advance their military careers.

Genevieve Chase, founder and executive director of American Women Veterans, wondered whether the differences in combat experience could affect men and women's views of the war.

"I'd be interested to see what percentage of those troops that believe the Iraq/Afghan wars were not worth fighting spent time outside the wire and in what capacities," she said. "Women make up less than 15% of the entire force and in deployment figures, that percentage is significantly lower especially if you factor in the number of women that have served outside of Forward Operating Bases, which would give them more of an opportunity to work among the locals."

As Chase noted, women currently make up 14.6 percent of the active-duty military. They also make up 16 percent of commissioned officers. A total of 138 female service members have been killed in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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WASHINGTON -- Women veterans are more likely to be critical of the U.S. involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan than their male counterparts, according to a new survey by the Pew Research Center. Sixt...
WASHINGTON -- Women veterans are more likely to be critical of the U.S. involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan than their male counterparts, according to a new survey by the Pew Research Center. Sixt...
 
 
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Charles Queen
I am a disabled nam vet
04:35 PM on 12/25/2011
This is all very well and good,unfortunately though,once you sign you'r name and take the oath you are no longer in charge of you per say,you officially and legaly belong to and become the sole property of the United states military,yeppers,thats the way it is.You are considered their property.Did you know that if you get a bad sunburn and are unable to peform you'r duty's they can sink you'r ship and nail an article 15 on you'r rump for destruction of government property or in this caseArmy or merine property,you are a number.AS I always told my people,I don't care how much you bithc,whine and or cry just so long as what you are told to do gets done(lol)
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Godweiser
The eyes have it.
08:05 AM on 12/23/2011
I happened to ask a female veteran of the Iraq war how she felt about the end of it, as I've been asking various veterans I know anyway, and her response was telling, "It isn't over until the troops are home." I don't think there's this expectation, thrust upon them by the macho types in the civilian sector, that female military personnel have to pretend that they somehow thought the war was cool or worth fighting. Then again, there is the public persona of veterancy and the private struggles and they are two different things. I suppose actual experience with guys that get nauseated by the smell of copper pennies and are on zoloft for PTSD has colored my view of whether or not the wars were worth it, too.
07:58 AM on 12/23/2011
The soldiers served their country as the politicians served themselves.! Come home and stay home.! Have a Merry Xmas and a healthy, wealthy New Year. If possible.!
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PRONESE
Somewhat Opinionated Curmudgeon
06:18 AM on 12/23/2011
Whatever.
More Coffee...
R/ PRONESE
wgpbp
My Ex-Girlfriend Hated My Dog
06:01 AM on 12/23/2011
Proves what we already knew.

Women nagg and complaint more.
wgpbp
My Ex-Girlfriend Hated My Dog
06:02 AM on 12/23/2011
Woops - -"complain."

What's new?
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RitaS
04:38 AM on 12/23/2011
No surprise there... Too bad for our Country the men in charge thought 'they' knew best..
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ramal
One's only real life is the life one never leads.
03:51 AM on 12/23/2011
Proving that women have common sense.
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Akshay Singh
The Devil's Orchard
03:44 AM on 12/23/2011
Women are wiser than men it seems.
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emershtdwn
"Something clever in Latin"
03:24 AM on 12/23/2011
and........?
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Danlar
it's fun to have fun but you have to know how
02:50 AM on 12/23/2011
Wow, those are some very HIGH disapproval numbers among service members...my Dad is a WWII vet and he was totally OPPOSED to Iraq..he has a bumper sticker that says "I'm bored,.. who do we invade next?" on his Jeep -he's 86.

"WE were misled, we were deceived, we were lied to" -GOPer Pat Buchanan

Downing Street Memo is the best most recent intel from our closest Allies that tells us so...so did Joe Wilson and many many others
02:00 AM on 12/23/2011
Do they think the Taliban is our enemy?
01:54 AM on 12/23/2011
Is this a surprise? Women in general disapprove war more then men do.
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01:48 AM on 12/23/2011
War is a racket
Who makes the profits?
Who pays the bills?
How to smash this racket!
To hell with war!
It contains this key summary:

Millionaires are made and billionaires as sure as bodies come home in body bags and the living left to blowing their brains out: read this USMC famous critique:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket

Woman, never get a deal or good time in the boys club that is rule one in history! They get to fight and bare the child! The next soldiers! They are counted like cattle in the censes for reasons: there is no moral in any of the conflicts:

Funny the Russians quoted by Robert Fisk of the UK independent:

1985 or so: we can hold the cities but the mountains or villages: we have had boots on every inch of ground but we cannot hold it: American Commander same thing: no one has ever held Afghanistan, Roman or British - none

Sorry, but they are tribal and very harsh on women: like are men can be.

Empire building from the neocons: No Empire has been built on love and Good will they have been raised at the end of sword!
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01:26 AM on 12/23/2011
what women think about obama sending missiles into iran yesterday?
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01:28 AM on 12/23/2011
*what DO women think...
01:24 AM on 12/23/2011
I don't think that surprises people. I'd bet, minorities would also fall into this category. I wonder how many millions were wasted on that research.