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Ron Paul Brings Out Older Voters In Iowa

First Posted: 12/23/2011 7:48 am Updated: 12/23/2011 7:57 am

CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa -- Ron Paul proved he could draw crowds of college students. Now he's going for their grandparents.

On an eight-city tour of eastern Iowa on Wednesday and Thursday, Paul spoke to hundreds of voters, many of them grey-haired retirees who said he is their only choice for president. While he has repeatedly attracted large crowds of college students -- 1,300 people showed up at a Dec. 8 event at Iowa State University -- this tour showed Paul has some sway with the older members of the electorate, whom he may need to win the caucuses on Jan. 3.

Barb Davis, a 74-year-old retiree who lives in Manchester, said Paul is the only candidate who can bring the United States back from the brink of disaster. The others? "Pffft," she said, pointing her thumb down. Her husband, Walt, is 76 years old, the same age as Paul, but the couple said they wish Paul were younger so he would have more time to change government.

They're committed to Paul, and have been since 2008, which Barb proved with her Paul '08 button on her shirt. If he does not win the nomination, Barb and Walt said they will write in his name.

"If he doesn't make it, just bid the U.S. goodbye," Davis said at a Thursday afternoon event in Manchester, Iowa. "We're going to go under. Someone up there needs to read Revelations in The Bible."

Paul says he can appeal to anyone -- whether old or young, Democrat, Republican or independent -- because of his message of liberty. He stays on message during speeches, talking about the need for small government, major spending cuts and shutting down the Federal Reserve. The audiences on his tour, which were often gathered in large conference rooms that were expanded further to fit more people, cheered for his plan to cut $1 trillion from the budget, restart trade with Cuba and stay out of issues overseas.

He acknowledges in his stump speech that his fan base is growing. After thanking college students and youth for their support during a Wednesday speech in Bettendorf, Iowa, Paul joked that most of the crowd "might not be considered college students."

"But for those, they're young at heart and believe in liberty," he continued. "So we're all in this together."

Many Paul supporters have something else in common: they say they would rather vote for Paul as a write-in or Independent candidate than support another Republican nominee.

So far, Paul has given no indication he will run as a third-party candidate, but some of his supporters are hopeful. If he does runs as an Independent, though, it could be disastrous for Republicans. A poll by the Washington Post and ABC News found that 21 percent of registered voters surveyed would support Paul in a match-up between Romney and Obama, which could allow the president to edge out his Republican opponent. Support for Gingrich also dropped when Paul was presented as a third-party option, according to the poll.

But Paul is also drawing away some support from President Barack Obama. Bob Curler, a 74-year-old retiree, is a long-time Democrat who plans to caucus with Republicans for the first time on Jan. 3. His Republican daughter and grandson, Sue and Joe Schueller, invited him to come to a Thursday event in Dubuque.

"I agree with a lot of things he says," Curler said after Paul's appearance, adding that Social Security and health care are two of the most important issues he is considering. Even though he voted for Obama in 2008, Curler said he is almost certainly going to vote for Paul in the caucus.

"We're hoping to get him to come with us," Sue Schueller interjected.

Many Paul supporters said that voting for another candidate in the general election would go against their values. The two other front-runners, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, are seen by many Paul supporters are too inconsistent and only out for themselves.

Even if they would vote for other Republicans in a general election, supporters said it would be with apprehension.

"I'd hold my nose, like I did for John McCain," Andi Rays, a 72-year-old homemaker and retiree, said at Paul's Thursday speech in Manchester. "They're liberals."

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hrpmap 12:07 PM on 12/23/2011
Look it up before you say I am wrong and look foolish since many people here will know the truth. The IRS costs us 1.25 trillion every four years (a Presidential term) not counting the damage they do to the individuala and business. Not counting the cost burden (expense) of complaince they take out of the economy each year. Paul wants to end that 100 year old outdated system. My daughter is an accountant  Read More...
04:06 AM on 01/03/2012
This is for the Iowa voters especially Independents and Democrats. Post are being put up on the internet which says if an Independent or a Democrat you can not vote in the Republican caucus. Not so, you can switch at the door and vote. Why would some one post a lie? Would it be the fact that there are 65% registered Independents and Democrats in Iowa and 35% Republicans and RP will get the majority of the Independent and Democratic vote.
12:07 AM on 12/26/2011
Regardless of what anyone here thinks, the simple fact is that the USA is on a very transparent downward spiral and the end of our Republic is near. Liberties are being lose under the guise of 'national security' whether or not a Dem or Rep is in office. Wars are being waged in the middle east that will soon pit the USA and world against Russia, Pakistan, Brazil, India, and China (the new world superpowers) The US can't afford the war, they can, they will win, the world will end up settling for UN rule and the US will pay taxes to feed the rest of the world. Obama will come all over himself when that happens, and you Dems will work in gov factories for 22 cents a day. That's what you get for not supporting Ron Paul. Karma will be a MF.
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dontgiveupamerica
I am so smart, S-M-R-T !!
08:51 PM on 12/25/2011
I agree with what she said. If Ron Paul isn't elected, we are headed for deep, muddy waters. WWIII would be devasting to the human race, we need you Ron Paul.
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dontgiveupamerica
I am so smart, S-M-R-T !!
08:52 PM on 12/25/2011
devastating *
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Joe Goforth
contempt for the status quo
07:57 PM on 12/25/2011
Older folks are often wiser folks. Last chance to save this great nation from it's empire building ways. Do it for our veterans and do it for our children. For all of those who disagree show me the plan. Show me a candidate who will end these useless wars and cut defense spending. I've been asking this same question for months now and I get no answers but Ron Paul.
08:26 PM on 12/25/2011
Ron Paul is the only answer I have too.
02:06 AM on 12/25/2011
The Republicans in power prefer Obama to Ron Paul because nothing would change.
HopeWFaith
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08:08 AM on 12/24/2011
Unfortunately the simplistic way that Ron thinks is what scares me. He does not allow for and contemplate any peripheral issues or overlapping results, but thinks issues are black and white. Too simplistic, too lacking of deep thinking and legalities. He really should be sounding more like a legislator by now, but he simply sounds like a dr. who left the business and did not know where to go.
09:47 AM on 12/24/2011
HopeWFaith You appear to have neither. "A Dr who left business and did not know where to go"
Yes indeed a doctor in the tradition of Dr Benjamin Rush who signed the Declaration of Independence and started the abolitionist movement in Philadelphia or Joseph Warren who gave up his practice to charge up Bunker hill and become one of the first casualties of the Revolution.
I understand your confusion however because Dr Paul's philosophy is not easily understood from election soundbites but I urge you to take a little more time this election cycle to read one of his books. "A Foreign Policy of Freedom" is a good start.I agree with you he does appear Black and White when it comes to the Constitution but when you violate the document for whatever good intentions, you open the door for more violations that might not be so beneficial. If you watch the debate tapes on you tube the choice is clear this election is a choice is clear: This election is a referendum on war with Iran,The other 5 candidates are planning yet another war that will essentially break our treasury and with it additional thousands of American Servicemen/Women killed or maimed.
HopeWFaith
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10:53 AM on 12/24/2011
I think you're off your rocker, frankly!
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iamone3
11:19 AM on 12/24/2011
metor, you are so right. Ron Paul will bring our troops home and end these constant wars. I for one am tired of our young men and women coming home in body bags.
03:42 AM on 01/03/2012
I have though in black and white all of my life, now 66. If I made $30 thousand a year and owed $700 thousand on a credit card at 5% I was bankrupt. Now that looks black and white to me. But unfortunately congress does not think in black and white because they do not get it. I'll stay with black and white and Ron.
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davidblanket
Have a Sonny Day!
12:06 AM on 12/24/2011
Have a Safe Weekend, Enjoy the Holiday, and Peace Be With You!
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luvobama
Hospice volunteer...
10:38 PM on 12/23/2011
Get Off My Lawn!!
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luvobama
Hospice volunteer...
10:38 PM on 12/23/2011
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08:53 PM on 12/23/2011
Ron Paul is now head of the subcommittee over seeing the fed. Watch for the fireworks
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05:28 PM on 12/23/2011
Since when is the last time your party did anything for you? My party is busy beating the drums of war urging an invasion of Iran, JUST like they did 10 years ago for an invasion into Iraq on the FALSE information that Saddam had WMD and planned on using them on us. With the very same argument they used back then. That THEY were the dangerous ones, when our foreign policy endorsed and somehow managed to convince an entire nation of otherwise rational human beings that it was perfectly ok to invade other countries even to the point of manufacturing false information. You would think that otherwise rational human being would consider that perhaps our foreign policy might need some critical examination.
04:31 PM on 12/23/2011
Here is a Black Man who talks about the newsletters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1uc7x4a8SM

Oh Man I'm proud of Black Americans!
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davidblanket
Have a Sonny Day!
05:12 PM on 12/23/2011
Hopefully, one day your statement above will read as below;

Oh Man I am Proud of Americans.
This hyphenated American crap has got to go.
You are an American ... or, you are not.
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davidblanket
Have a Sonny Day!
05:14 PM on 12/23/2011
Hyphens are dividers ... not uniters.
05:15 PM on 12/23/2011
actually you are right.. i'm sorry
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brt929
06:31 PM on 12/23/2011
Oh Man I'm proud of Black Americans!

You mean you are proud of the ones ignorant enough to bend to your white will?

Tell me, were you proud of the one that broke the ceiling and ended up in the Oval Office?  I'm guessing not.
07:23 AM on 12/25/2011
Do you really think b.o. is an
Amercan? I voted for him, and I'm white, sort of, lol. I guess I didn't really vote for him I voted against McCain because Ron Paul wasn't on our ballot in CA. This time I will write Dr. Paul in if he isn't on the ballot.
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independendy
micro-bios are people too, my friend.
04:06 PM on 12/23/2011
ahem...newsletter...ahem...ahem...youtube...ahem
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jmoderate99
Ronald Reagan supported gun control
04:04 PM on 12/23/2011
These Paul-philes are way too easy to make fun of. Need a more challenging post, one with REAL ideas to discuss.
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refuse2fail
07:32 PM on 12/23/2011
You lack substance at nearly every turn, and then have the nerve to mock others. Details, valid ones, i'd be happy to listen to. Insults are purely juvenile my friend.
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Eddie VanderMolen
2 + 2 = 4, period!
03:58 PM on 12/23/2011
So, big gum'munt is bad. I got that. What about big business? What sort of checks and balances are there to ensure they don't take over our lives? The market? That's unstable and as proven to be more unstable with less regulations. As wealth disparity increases the market get more volatile. Are we to just wait it out until it settles while, possibly millions of people starve, lose their homes, die of poor health because they can't afford insurance? Are we to persevere the rigors of social Darwinism? But, that's freedom, right!?! That's liberty. Libertarian just don't think things through. They will not or cannot comment the dots.
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read matt taibbi
Neither left, nor right. Forward!
04:05 PM on 12/23/2011
Wealth disparity increases in part due to machinations of central banks - that has nothing to do with free market.

The hard part in evaluating your thesis is that we haven't had really free markets for quite some time, and perhaps they are but a figment of Adam Smith's imagination.

The only thing that is clear to me is that we can't run 10% deficit for too long.
Something has to give.
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davidblanket
Have a Sonny Day!
04:09 PM on 12/23/2011
Please, what potection is there now?
No, now we are going to force those that cannot afford insurance to purchase it ... or pay a fine.
That helps the poor tremendously.
What a bunch of spin.