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Ron Paul's Pro-Life Credentials Questioned By Personhood USA

First Posted: 12/26/2011 8:04 pm Updated: 12/26/2011 8:08 pm

WASHINGTON -- The intensity of Rep. Ron Paul's (R-Texas) pro-life beliefs was questioned by fellow conservatives Monday evening, when the group Personhood USA expressed concern that the GOP presidential candidate was not fully committed to their goal of granting fertilized embryos the same constitutional protections currently afforded to American citizens.

The move comes less than a week after the Texas congressman and career obstetrician became the fifth Republican presidential candidate to sign a petition written and organized by Personhood USA, pledging to “support a human life amendment to the Constitution, and endorse legislation to make clear that the 14th Amendment protections apply to unborn children.” A ballot initiative with a similar goal organized by Personhood USA failed to pass in Mississippi in November.

When the libertarian-leaning Paul signed the Personhood pledge, he included a clarifying statement, in which he appears to leave the door open for states to determine how to enforce a hypothetical Human Life Amendment, were it to be added to the U.S. Constitution.

"A Human Life Amendment should do two things," Paul writes in the statement. "First, it should define life as beginning at conception and give the unborn the same protection all other human life enjoys. Second, it must deal with the enforcement of the ruling much as any law against violence does -- through state laws."

(Read Paul's full clarification here.)

In an open letter to Paul, Personhood USA took issue with that line of reasoning, writing, "How exactly does Rep. Paul suggest we “protect rights at the federal level?" The group's point, put simply, is that federally protected rights should be enforced on a federal level. Leaving individual states to determine how to enforce federal laws allows states to apply different standards of enforcement, which in practice, if not in theory, appears to contradict the federal nature of the protection.

The letter comes less than 24 hours before the Presidential Pro-Life Forum, a tele-town hall and radio simulcast that will take place Tuesday night at 8:00 p.m. and is being co-sponsored by Personhood USA and other pro-life groups.

A spokesman for Paul's campaign declined to respond to an inquiry from The Huffington Post Monday evening. Personhood USA's letter is reprinted below.

Personhood USA to Rep. Ron Paul Re: Pledge Submitted by Keith Ashley on Mon, 12/26/2011 - 22:30 Dear Dimitri and Rep. Ron Paul,

Upon closer review of Rep. Ron Paul’s statement accompanying the personhood pledge, we have serious concerns both about the internal inconsistencies within Rep. Paul’s statement, and the inconsistency between the clarifying statement and the language of Personhood USA’s pledge.

We do not wish to hurt Rep. Ron Paul’s campaign in any way, which is why we would like to give him the opportunity to explain and hopefully reconcile the inconsistencies. We recognize and respect that Rep. Ron Paul has been heroically consistent in his views on federalism. Also, nobody doubts that Rep. Ron Paul is personally pro-life, but he is running to be the head of state, not a private citizen. Therefore, his view of the role of the federal government and the protection of life – the only inalienable right greater even than liberty, is of paramount importance to us.

Thomas Jefferson who authored the Declaration of Independence (this nation’s foundation of liberty and self-government) and who was also one of the main supporters of the inclusion of a bill of rights to the U.S. Constitution wrote that “the chief purpose of government is to protect life. Abandon that and you have abandoned all.”

Rep. Ron Paul seems to agree with Jefferson within the text of his clarifying statement, when he writes:
“We should allow our republican system of government to function as our Founders designed it to: protect rights at the federal level, enforce laws against violence at the state level.”

However, Rep. Ron Paul also states that:
“The Fourteenth Amendment was never intended to cancel out the Tenth Amendment. This means that I can’t agree that the Fourteenth Amendment has a role to play here, or otherwise we would end up with a “Federal Department of Abortion.”

When this last statement is combined with his desire to see the jurisdiction of the courts removed for the purpose of dealing with abortion, one has to wonder: How exactly does Rep. Paul suggest we “protect rights at the federal level”? We agree with Rep. Ron Paul that the 10th amendment police powers are the proper vehicle for state criminalization of murder (born and unborn) but we strenuously disagree that the 10th amendment could possibly allow for the decriminalization of murder. If this were the case, it would truly seem that we would be throwing out the whole purpose of the constitution, which is to “secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.” I am sure that this is not Rep. Ron Paul’s aim, so where does Rep. Ron Paul believe is that federal protection of the right to life?

How will the rights of unborn children (our posterity) be federally protected in NY or California, where a majority of the people are in favor of the legalized murder of unborn children?

We understand his position that self-government comes with certain responsibilities, and that liberty implies allowing people to make mistakes. But there is a critically important difference when we are speaking of abortion. With abortion the mistaken policy of the person with power is used to exterminate another, powerless, person: that is not the exercise of liberty but the most evil form of tyranny.

The 14th amendment states that:
“No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

If Rep. Paul believes that “life begins at conception” and therefore agrees with the core reasoning of the Personhood movement that all human beings should be considered legal persons with rights, then why would the 14th amendment’s clear requirement that states grant equal protection to all persons not apply to making sure that state criminal codes protect the lives of born and unborn persons equally? Rep. Ron Paul would surely agree that if a state decided to decriminalize the killing of all human beings over 70, that state would be violating 14th amendment’s equal protection clause, would he not?

Lastly, and most importantly, how can Rep. Ron Paul reconcile his states rights permissive theory of abortion with the statement in our pledge that “every human being is created in the image and likeness of God and is endowed by our creator with the unalienable right to life.” If in fact our right to life comes from God, not government, and we acknowledge that “to secure these rights governments are instituted among men,” how can Rep. Ron Paul adhere simultaneously to the theory that entire states in this union may trespass with impunity upon these fundamental rights while maintaining that these rights are unalienable?

In conclusion, these are the inconsistencies we would like to see resolved:

1. Where within our republican system of government does Rep. Ron Paul find the federal protection of the right to life?
2. Does Rep. Ron Paul believe that the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment does not extend to unborn persons?
3. If Rep. Ron Paul believes in the “unalienable right to life”, why does he believe the federal constitution, specifically the 10th amendment, requires that the states have the authority to sanction murder, if they so choose?

We honestly desire Rep. Ron Paul to be a champion for life with as much depth and consistency as he has shown for limited government, and we believe that it is possible for him to answer the above questions in a way that would satisfy both his principled view of limited government and his desire to protect all innocent human beings.

This is how we believe he could answer and maintain his consistency:
1. Where within our republican system of government does Rep. Ron Paul find the federal protection of the right to life?
The right to life is firmly enshrined in in the declaration of independence, the preamble to the constitution, and the 5th and 14th amendments.
2. Does Rep. Ron Paul believe that the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment does not extend to unborn persons?
No, Rep. Ron Paul believes that as applied to abortion, the 14th amendment requires that state laws be applied equally to all persons. A scientific, legal, and morally consistent understanding of the definition of the word person requires that term include all human beings as persons at every stage of their development. Therefore the 14th amendment should apply to unborn persons.
3. If Rep. Ron Paul believes in the “unalienable right to life”, why does he believe the federal constitution, specifically the 10th amendment, requires that the states have the authority to sanction murder, if they so choose?
Rep. Ron Paul believes that the 10th amendment recognizes states’ police power, which includes the power to pass laws to regulate to protect the health, safety, and morals of the people. No state, and no government has the power to legalize murder, as that would be a violation of the unalienable right to life granted by God to those beings made in His image and likeness.

Please consider our questions carefully and respond to us by noon tomorrow. If you need more time to address these issues, please contact us via email requesting an extension of time and we will be happy to do so.

Personhood USA is a standard bearer, not a kingmaker. We do not seek to endorse or reject a candidate for office. We do however, require that those who sign the pledge adopt a consistent policy. For the reasons stated above, we do not believe that Rep. Ron Paul’s policies towards life meet the standard of the Personhood USA pledge.

We are hopeful that you will satisfactorily address the issues presented above. If not we will be put in the unfortunate position of having to reject your pledge publicly.

We look forward to hearing from you soon.

God bless you,

Personhood USA

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TeraWatt60 10:28 PM on 12/26/2011
"Personhood USA" is the latest in the right wing bidding war for "most lunatic fringe" position...in the ever expanding quest for bragging rights to "most Conservative" position on any given subject these sanctimonious and or demented types want to declare a microscopic cluster of cells a "person" and prevent the use of birth control and fertility treatments...and if taken to its logical (?!?) conclusion  Read More...
11:11 PM on 09/01/2012
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03:40 PM on 12/30/2011
Personhood does NOT begin at conception. It is foolish and biologically incorrect to say that a lump of cells with no central nervous system is a person. Any politician who has signed this pledge has lost my support. They are simply not intelligent or educated enough to govern.
10:23 PM on 01/15/2012
I agree, this is frustrating and disappointing. This is a medically educated candidate who claims to want to take government out of our personal life and adhere to the constitution (like... oh right, separation of church and state). Yet his stance on this subject is CLEARLY and ONLY explained by a religious influence. Abortion is never the best option, no one wants to do it, there are better options- everyone with any education knows that. That is why we need places like Planned Parenthood. They provide education and birth control methods to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies and help protect the health of both men and women. So go ahead and cut their funding and see the number of unwanted pregnancies rise....
05:50 PM on 12/29/2011
I wish abortion rights supporters would stop using the term "pro-life" because it isn't. It plays into the notion that valuing protoplasm over the life of an adult woman is a life-supporting viewpoint, which it isn't.
12:20 PM on 12/29/2011
Just like there are bad policemen or mailmen that are racist or abusive , they do not represent will of the State and they dont represent the govenor or the President ! Just because some lousy employees wrote a lousy news letter stating views that are harmful or abusive to different groups of americans.Just like Tv stations have let people talk and said these views do not represent the TV stations views! Ron Paul has Disavowed what these nut cases wrote. If these claims were true and they obviously are not then he come out and say them .Ron Paul SPEAKS for what he believes in! Newspapers make corrections everyday no big deal. Enough said on this issue.Let the mans GREAT voting record speak for his views,Lets Elect an honest man President ! That upholds OUR Constitution's Rights Lets Elect Ron Paul 2012!
11:53 AM on 12/29/2011
Ron Paul PERSONALLY believes in Pro- life , (and not abortions )for gods sake he has delivered 4000 babies! Ron Paul also believes in the WILL of the people for state rights and he does not believe the Federal Govt employees should be paid or be able to take away a states rights.We have the Freedom to move anywhere in the fifty states we want to move so we still have Freedom not to be in a POLICE - State as long as we keep the Federal Powers and the state powers to a BARE minimum. LIBERTY!
08:21 PM on 12/31/2011
Dr Paul is the prolife candidate who knows abortion is a state issue. Ron Paul 2012!
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11:12 AM on 12/29/2011
So...do we stop celebrating birthdays and start celebrating conceptiondays? That might be embarrassing.
12:06 AM on 12/29/2011
hey guys, everything will be ok! those skeevy democrats cant possibly win now! the right will gain several million more voters because soon fetuses will have the same rights as citizens who are actually alive!.....to bad they're 1-9 months away from being born....
10:45 PM on 12/28/2011
I wonder if there is a way to preserve rather than destroy these embryos from abortions. It sounds like a lot of people don't like Ron Paul, even though this is pretty much America's last chance at returning to its Constitutionally limited government. With the wars that will be coming (if America continues to vote classic Dem or Rep), we may find that these preserved embryos will be the only way to repopulate.
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11:27 PM on 12/28/2011
With Iran Sitting on the Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz ; the worlds thirst for oil, a determination to obtain nuclear weapons and a stated desire to use them on us and Israel, I do not see any way that War is avoidable, short of just accepting Vaporization. What scares me about Ron Paul was that he said in the debate that there was no proof that Iran was seeking Nukes, and if they were what right did we have to stop them. I may not agree with his decision to kill or not kill fetuses, but I have to stand firm on his decision to let others kill me or Our Ally's. I am not naive enough to believe the world will take a Siesta when there is no oil, I've seen what we will do for it. We won’t drill, we won’t prepare, and we won’t do without, which tells me we are prepared to go get it. Burring our heads in the sand, or embracing isolationism, will not protect us from fall out. Not sure if it’s time for Ezekiel 38 to come to fruition, and many don’t believe that stuff anyway, but you have to believe what you see happening before your eyes.Ron Paul would have made a fine presadent Prior to August 2, 1939
01:48 AM on 01/02/2012
Seems that Rick Santorum has been talking to you lately. Paul's views are non-interventionist, not isolationist. The difference being that he does not wish to try and settle other countries' problems, i.e. Egypt, Libya etc. Isolationism means we would cut off all trade and commerce with other countries which would definitely be more than counter-productive.
Iran does not have the will or the ability to destroy Israel (who has their own nuclear arsenal). They would only wish to get a nuke so as to be respected by the U.S. much the way North Korea is. North Korea is not pushed around by the U.S. because of their nuclear capabilities (and the backing of China). The government is eating up this blockade talk by Iran because they have been salivating for a war with Iran for a while and had plans to do so for at least 20 yrs. according to ret. General Wesley Clark. I believe Ron Paul would make a great president that would return us to the strength our nation once enjoyed by making our economy strong, and our defense strong. Strong defense doesn't mean we need to bomb everyone who talks bad about us either. Just because he doesn't beat the war drums to seem tough doesn't mean we would be less safe with a Paul presidency. We would have someone who would defend us as the constitution allows instead of unconstitutional, undeclared wars.
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03:48 PM on 12/28/2011
Does anyone else find it ironic that Michelle Bachman would sign this pledge and then say she would do nothing to help the children of undocumented workers that are right here in the US. Force certain children to be born and then watch others suffer and die. Wow!
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05:18 PM on 12/28/2011
I think she is pro anchor-embryos.
03:06 PM on 12/28/2011
When they quote the 14th Amendment, they forgot to include its first sentence:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

If you're going to warp and twist the Equal Protection clause to include unborn fetuses as "people", then you should equally warp and twist the Citizenship clause that would make them immediate Citizens of the US.
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02:49 PM on 12/28/2011
Life has no beginning and end but an embodied lifetime has a beginning and end. When a sperm that carries life, the soul, unites with the egg, a new lifetime has begun. Any deliberate act to cut short that lifetime is the equivalent of murder for that is what murder is, stopping a human life from reaching its natural conclusion. Killing or murder does not kill the soul but it does kill the body. If science could find a way to bring back the life force, the soul, into the body, that embodied life could continue, but for now that remains in the realm of miracles, divine intervention. There is also no material source of life or we could simply insert that into a dead body to revive it. Therefore matter without a soul is dead.

All kinds of murder and killing are wrong because they cut short the embodied lifetime of a person, no matter at what level of consciousness they currently exist. People do not have an unconditional right to "the pursuit of happiness." If they did there would be no crime and anarchy would be the rule. Civilized societies therefore protect all of its members not just a preferred segment or majority like the sexually active. Dr. Hans
04:39 PM on 12/28/2011
I'm not a biology expert, so I'm confused.

Are you saying souls reside in sperm? If so, kindly provide a scientific citation supporting your statement.

And when sperm or fertilized eggs die, the soul does not? How is that even possible? Again, any evidence supporting your claim would be welcome.
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Hans Bickel
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01:51 AM on 12/29/2011
Sorry, meant to give the source of this information: the Song of God, Bhagavad-gita As It Is. We accept history so historically speaking GOD visited earth some 5,000 years ago and spoke about the soul and other spiritual as well as material topics. I can't think of a better source than GOD for information about matter and spirit. GOD is praised since the beginning of the universe, and no one else has that kind of staying power, scientist of otherwise.

In addition, if the source of life were in the egg, there would be no need for males. Also, if chemicals could produce life, then the chemical composition of sperm could be duplicated and life would be achieved that way. Furthermore, as already stated, if matter was the source of life we could revive dead bodies by injecting them with life-giving chemicals. The truth therefore is that matter is dead and only appears to be alive when a soul is present. As the Gita explains, the soul is eternal and therefore does not die when the body dies. You may not understand this now but in due course of time you will. Hari bol! Dr. Hans
05:50 PM on 12/28/2011
Well actually, it isn't the equivalent to murder, as the defining difference between murder and killing is the legallity of it.

This is why the roman catholics I think it is, are the only ones who can use their ten commandments protect a fetus, as theirs says thou shalt not kill, compared to most other forms of christianity say thou shalt not murder.

Abortion is legal, therefor not murder. Even if it weren't legal, it would still happen every day.

It's better to have all these dead fetus and people free to continue their lives than have dead fetus, a higher chance of serious complications occuring in the mother, and then to punish the mother (however that may be) because the fact is, even if you make it illegal, you'll never make it stop.
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Hans Bickel
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02:13 AM on 12/29/2011
In the same way that states cannot make viable laws that contradict the Constitution, so human laws that contradict Divine law are also invalid. Would making theft legal make theft ok? The unsanctioned killing of a lifetime is murder, no matter if someone else condones it. The Divine law works with karma from which no one escapes whereas some people appear to "get away with murder." Unlike GOD, we are imperfect, susceptible to making mistakes.

Abortion is not condoned by GOD, the ultimate authority, who cannot be defined away or swept under the rug anymore than a state can ignore the Supreme Court. It is illegal to steal, but stealing still "happens every day." That doesn't make stealing right and even if stealing were legal it still wouldn't be right. The same holds true for abortion. Dr. Hans
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02:43 PM on 12/28/2011
Some accepted Libertarian stands on issues make good sense, others cross over into idealism or attempts to reinvent areas of govt or regulation that may be imperfect but have proven difficult or impossible to improve. Reforming the war on drugs will mean sweeping changes with dramatic economic impact (good and bad)....but probably worth it. Despite his common-sense demeanor and air of integrity, Ron Paul's "Pro-life" position is an example of the arbitrary choices Libertarians adopt in the name of "freedom" IMO. The discussion about abortion in terms of when life begins, choice, morality, etc. is reasonable and responsible. The decision to bring govt into a legislated policing role is a leap into enforcing idealistic religious law. It's the kind of intrusion in our lives that the church used for centuries to control populations, retain power and effectively keep women in positions of servitude.
08:17 PM on 03/06/2013
Nothing arbitrary about determining that the life of the fetus is just as valuable to him as the life of a newborn or an adult! Abortion takes away the rights, of the potential child, to be born. Thus it is going against Libertarian thinking that abortion is not denying the fetus' rights to be born. Then again, Libertarians could also say the government has not right to tell the woman what she does with her body. But, they would have to ignore the fact that the fetus has life. Sounds like all the other arguments I hear. There are two very confused, sides!
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02:26 PM on 12/28/2011
Personhood amendments have been soundly defeated in most states that have attempted to add them to the constitution, particularly here in Colorado where they have attempted it several times. It clearly says, by its very existence, that a living breathing woman is less of a person than the zygote or embryo she carries in her body. She has no, in this atrocious attempt at Sharia law against women, right to privacy, no right to her own religious beliefs, and no right to live if the fetus is in distress.

She can be tried for murder if she can't prove a miscarriage was accidental, she has no right to protect herself from conception, can't risk invitro fertilization, etc., etc.

This is an obnoxious, which should be illegal attempt at the biggest government ever, one in our bedrooms and our bodies--and based on religious beliefs. It is a direct affront to freedoms of privacy and religion afforded all Americans by our constitution, and freedom from religious persecution--which this clearly is. Each Republican candidate who signed this pledge from an outside source, allowing it to dictate how they would govern, has disregarded the constitution and does not deserve to hold office, particularly as President.
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Calvin Watlington
02:21 PM on 12/28/2011
Ritamary makes a great point that these hypocrites should never be called pro life. They are anti everything that does not benefit the rich and powerful.