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As Iraq War Troops Return, No Welcome-Home Parade Planned

Iraq Troops Parade

BEN NUCKOLS and SAMANTHA GROSS   12/27/11 08:02 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — Americans probably won't be seeing a huge ticker-tape parade anytime soon for troops returning from Iraq, and it's not clear if veterans of the nine-year campaign will ever enjoy the grand, flag-waving, red-white-and-blue homecoming that the nation's fighting men and women received after World War II and the Gulf War.

Officials in New York and Washington say they would be happy to help stage a big celebration, but Pentagon officials say they haven't been asked to plan one.

Most welcome-homes have been smaller-scale: hugs from families at military posts across the country, a somber commemoration by President Barack Obama at Fort Bragg in North Carolina.

With tens of thousands of U.S. troops still fighting a bloody war in Afghanistan, anything that looks like a big victory celebration could be seen as unseemly and premature, some say.

"It's going to be a bit awkward to be celebrating too much, given how much there is going on and how much there will be going on in Afghanistan," said Don Mrozek, a military history professor at Kansas State University.

Two New York City councilmen, Republicans Vincent Ignizio and James Oddo, have called for a ticker-tape parade down the stretch of Broadway known as the Canyon of Heroes. A similar celebration after the Gulf War was paid for with more than $5.2 million in private donations, a model the councilmen would like to follow.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg said last week that he was open to the idea but added, "It's a federal thing that we really don't want to do without talking to Washington, and we'll be doing that."

A spokesman for the mayor declined to elaborate on the city's reasons for consulting with Washington. Ignizio said he had been told by the mayor's office that Pentagon officials were concerned that a celebration could spark violence overseas and were evaluating the risk.

Navy Capt. John Kirby, a Pentagon spokesman, said that he has not heard that issue raised and that New York has yet to make a formal proposal. He also said officials are grateful communities around the country are finding ways to recognize the sacrifices of troops and their families.

The last combat troops in Iraq pulled out more than a week ago. About 91,000 U.S. soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines are in Afghanistan, battling a stubborn Taliban insurgency and struggling to train Afghan forces so that they eventually can take over security. Many U.S. troops who fought in the Iraq War could end up being sent to Afghanistan.

A parade might invite criticism from those who believe the U.S. left Iraq too soon, as well as from those who feel the war was unjustified. It could also trigger questions about assertions of victory.

Mrozek noted that President George W. Bush's administration referred to military action in the Middle East as part of a global war on terror, a conflict that's hard to define by conventional measures of success.

"This is not a war on a particular place or a particular force," he said.

Bush himself illustrated the perils of celebrating milestones in the war, Mrozek said, when he landed on an aircraft carrier and hailed the end of major combat operations in Iraq behind a "Mission Accomplished" banner in May 2003. U.S. troops remained in Iraq for 8 1/2 more years, and Bush was criticized over the banner.

The benchmarks were clearer in previous wars. After World War II, parades marked Japan's surrender. After the Gulf War, celebrations marked the troops' return after Iraqi forces were driven out of Kuwait.

The only mass celebrations of U.S. military activities since Sept. 11, 2001, were largely spontaneous: Large crowds gathered in Times Square and outside the White House in April after Osama bin Laden was killed.

At the same time, Iraq veterans aren't coming home to the hostility many Vietnam veterans encountered. The first large-scale event honoring Vietnam veterans was not held until 1982, when thousands marched in Washington for the dedication of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. Parades were later held in New York in 1985 – 10 years after the war ended – and in Chicago the next year.

"I think we've seen recent history in Vietnam, where that wasn't done appropriately, and we want to make sure we do the appropriate thing by those that made the ultimate sacrifice and risked their lives for us to say thanks," Ignizio said.

At Fort Hood in Texas, troops have returned to welcome-home ceremonies at the post that were attended mostly by soldiers' families. Soldiers in uniform run to hug their loved ones after an announcer yells, "Charge!"

Col. Douglas Crissman, commander of the 3rd Brigade of the 1st Cavalry Division, said Saturday after one such ceremony that that is as large-scale a welcome as the troops need.

"This is just the right size because it's quick and meaningful and it gets them home to their families," Crissman said.

Staff Sgt. Troy Rudolph was among the first troops to arrive in Iraq in March 2003 and was in the last combat brigade to leave. Rudolph said that a large-scale ceremony would be nice but that he feels appreciated even without confetti falling from the sky.

"I've had people buy me lunch at airports just because I was in uniform," said Rudolph, who lives at Fort Hood with his wife and 9-year-old stepdaughter. "It's emotional because you don't realize what kind of impact you have on people across the country."

In Washington, federal agencies take the lead on planning parades, and so far nothing is in the works. A spokesman for Mayor Vincent Gray said the city would be honored to host a parade but said local officials wouldn't take the lead in staging one.

In recent years, most of the ticker-tape parades in New York have been held for the city's championship sports teams.

"The sports celebrations that we've had in New York for the Yankees and the Mets were amazing," Oddo said. "But these are the real heroes."

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Gross reported from New York. Associated Press writers Angela K. Brown in Fort Hood, Texas, and Lolita C. Baldor in Washington contributed to this report.

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10:36 AM on 01/08/2012
Welcome home troops and welcome to the club. When I came home from Vietnam all I got was a bag of dog poop thrown at me by some college puck. Just wait until you start dealing with the VA for benefits...On my third appeal and still have nothing...Rots of Ruck....
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jenalan
Compassion is Revolution
07:13 AM on 12/31/2011
...and yet, as we speak, they are "rehearsing" the confetti drop in Times Square. Nice to see our priorities are in order.
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Njeanous
12:17 AM on 01/01/2012
Maybe if one of the Kardashian Klan was going to fake marry a returning soldier we could get some coverage, you think?
05:32 PM on 12/30/2011
people would appreciate their efforts if there was a reason for them
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LeeMon
Dog is good.
01:28 PM on 12/29/2011
Someone remind me -- Did our Viet Nam vets get a ticker tape parade?
09:10 PM on 12/28/2011
It is sad to me that the average American has no idea of what the American govt's have done over the last 50 years to dominate and destroy. Not your fault. It's not taught in school. Chalmers Johnson and John Perkins are Americans who have written books that most Americans would never think to read. The American Empire is in decline just like the U.S.S.R. Every empire since the Roman Empire has failed. The United States has over 750 military bases around the world. Guantanamo is a disgrace. Killing and waterboarding happens more than you can imagine. All approved by gov't. But be careful, you have no rights under the Patriot Act. American freedom is a thing of the past.
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WeWillWin
None asked, none taken.
08:32 PM on 12/28/2011
They return to a grateful nation, and for the vets I know, that is enough. Obama clearly does not see the troops as political footballs. A republican president would be whoring the troops around all over the place to win votes while at the same time doing everything in their power to strip our soldiers of their benefits and healthcare. Not to mention putting them in danger so that their friends can get rich.
04:14 PM on 12/28/2011
What's new, same thing for the Viet Nam vets, except thay were spat upon.
03:55 PM on 12/28/2011
One thing Americans forget, only politicans, corporations or the rich,make money from wars fought ,forcing our soldiers into harms way. always politics. Average americans do the thank less fighting for our country, and I THANK YOU . Welcome all of them home, they served their country. don't treat them like the soldiers returning from Vietnam..
They are soldiers not police, so stop expecting them to do that job.
I only wish the VA could take care of all their needs, of course that depends on the wim of Congress.
Remember Government is many average Americans(CORUPTION IS IN POLITICS) putting food on the table for their families, politicans are evil in themselves, their will belongs to their political party. especially now..
Our country is imploding and the politicans don't give a care, they are all millionaires at our expense.
The rich and corporations have control of our country, even thought the ALL the TAXES are payed by us AVERAGE AMERICANS. My husband doesn't even have health care, since I was in a Clinical Trial, for Ovarian Cancer.
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lemmyk73
Foxy Shazam!
03:45 PM on 12/28/2011
That's Obama for you.
03:04 PM on 12/28/2011
No, this country and goverment ignore those they at one time forced them into a fight most of us might not have wanted, to today, government demands and those in uniform must go, for what? what did we get from these "wars" Bush lied us into one, and Obama has carried us into the continuence of the same. Now ending and we will ignore those who put their lives on the line for us. Will employers hire them, no, will anyone thank them? I do each time I see someone in uniform, even if they did not have to go over there, still,,,,,,,,,THANKS
02:32 PM on 12/28/2011
It is no secret that Obama does not care about or respect the military. Even the Navy Corpsemen.
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RVNGRUNT
02:38 PM on 12/28/2011
Another FOX-Limbaugh-Beck programmed non-thinker. BTW, it's spelled, "Corpsmen."
02:41 PM on 12/28/2011
Not hardley. By the way, I spelled it the way Obama pronounces it. I guess you would not know that watching Chris Matthews.
02:19 PM on 12/28/2011
Obama can't win cuz he's un-amrican if he doesn't hav a parade OR he's using the troops for his own political gain.

Ignore a Republican & your IQ will go up 10 points.
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kasel1
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01:28 PM on 12/28/2011
Maybe not a ticker-tape parade since this isn't a war that we actually won, but certainly a parade of honor in Washington to recognize these solldiers that risked it all to keep us safe and free. We can't do too much for them.
02:18 PM on 12/28/2011
It is so hard to believe, that the country I love and the men and women that have fought to protect us, are being used. These men and women, some have lost their lives to keep us safe are coming home. Home to the United States of America. And no recognition for them. What is wrong with our so called leaders? I say God Bless America, but, it's hard to say God Bless our leaders. As awful as the Viet Nam Veterns return was and now the same for these vets. I am ashamed. We should be shouting from the roof tops, " Their coming home." Good grief, the World Series and Super Bowl teams have parades and welcome home team. I wonder if God is shaking His head in sadness. And my heart goes out to all the military, and to the families who have lost love ones, I welcome you home. God Bless you all. Judith Presser Frizzelle
11:34 PM on 12/28/2011
Exactly how did the American men and women who killed innocent Iraqi's keep you safe? Safe from what? Wake up...OIL is the only reason troops were sent into Iraq.
The military of course just follows orders of self serving leaders over the years. I could name some leaders but then my post would not be shown.
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field-man
The bounty hunter
01:12 PM on 12/28/2011
Obama is the most Un-American President of all time and this news is not suprising at all he is to busy trying to pass laws to redistribute wealth and destroy capitalisim he dont care about the military
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smooth4x4
02:23 PM on 12/28/2011
Do Presidents organize parades? Has any President ever organized a parade? Get a grip.
03:11 PM on 12/28/2011
Un-American is starting a war for his own ego like Bush did.
01:10 PM on 12/28/2011
A parade would be a nice gesture, but the times we live in and the gov't we have...well it's not happening. My father returned to the states from the Vietnam war and was greeted with nothing but hate and misunderstanding. My suggestion is for everyone to take it upon themselves when they see a serviceman, servicewoman, or veteren to tell them thank you for their service and their families sacrifice. Don't rely on the government to do what we as human beings know is the right thing to do. I wish someone had done that for my dad.