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Iowa Polls Show Mitt Romney & Ron Paul Rising, Clash On Who's Ahead

First Posted: 12/29/2011 9:13 am Updated: 12/29/2011 1:47 pm

WASHINGTON -- At first glance, two new polls of likely Republican caucus-goers released on Wednesday appear to tell very different stories: One shows little change, with Ron Paul holding a slight lead over Mitt Romney. The second shows Romney surging into first place.

Timing explains much of the difference in interpretation -- Romney and Paul have both gained significantly since early December, with less change apparent in the last week -- although the subtle but consistent differences in the findings highlight a big inherent challenge of polling the Iowa caucuses. Methodologies do matter, and we may not know which snapshots are the most accurate until votes are counted next Tuesday night.

CNN and Time, whose poll shows Mitt Romney running slightly ahead of Ron Paul (25 to 22 percent) followed by Rick Santorum (16 percent) and Newt Gingrich (14 percent), had last surveyed likely Republican caucus-goers the first week of December.

Yet the Democratic firm Public Policy Polling (PPP), whose survey gives Ron Paul a similarly narrow lead over Romney (24 to 20 percent), followed by Gingrich (13 percent) and the remaining candidates clustered near 10 percent, had last polled just 10 days earlier.

When compared to the firm's most recent poll, the new PPP results show little change, but when compared to a survey it conducted in early December -- roughly the same time as the last CNN/Time poll -- the trends found by the organizations are very similar.

As shown in the table below, both find huge drops for Newt Gingrich (-14 for PPP, -19 for CNN/Time), and smaller but nearly identical increases for Mitt Romney (+4 for PPP, +5 for CNN/Time) and Ron Paul (+6 for PPP, +5 for CNN/Time. The two pollsters also find increases for Rick Santorum, although CNN/Time shows a bigger gain than PPP (+11 vs. +4).

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Those changes -- the dramatic collapse of support for Gingrich and the slower rise for Paul and Romney -- are consistent with the trends captured by other polls, as seen in the HuffPost Pollster chart below, based on all available public polls.

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If we had only the most recent polls from PPP and CNN/Time to consider, we might attribute the slight divergence between them to random sampling error, as the differences for each candidate in their most recent polls fall well within the respective margins of error (with the possible exception of the higher support for Rick Santorum on the latest CNN/Time poll). However, an examination of all the polls from both organizations shows some consistent gaps.

The most striking involves support for Mitt Romney. The three polls conducted by CNN and Time have all shown Romney's support roughly three points higher than the overall trend line based on all Iowa polls. The five PPP surveys conducted since October have tracked more closely with the standard trend line based on all public polls.

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The two organizations use different methodologies, so some consistent "house effects" should not come as a surprise: CNN/Time uses live interviewers to call a sample of registered Republicans drawn from the list of registered voters provided by the Iowa Secretary of State. PPP uses an automated, recorded voice methodology to call a sample of registered Republicans and independents drawn from the same lists. Both organizations use a combination of self-reported intent to participate and past voting history to select likely caucus-goers, although the details of those procedures are different.

The New York Times' Nate Silver argues that the omission of registered independents from the CNN/Time survey likely results in an underestimation of Paul's support. The caucus rules limit participation to registered Republicans, but registered Democrats and independents can easily switch their registration on caucus night.

The 2008 entrance poll showed that 13 percent of Republican caucus-goers identified as independent (which is not quite the same as reporting that they had been previously registered as independents), and Ron Paul won 29 percent of their vote, far better than he did with Republican identifiers (7 percent).

Similarly, Paul's lead on the current PPP survey comes from voters in its sample who self-identify as independents or Democrats. On the most recent survey, Romney runs slightly ahead of Paul among Republicans (22 to 20 percent) but Paul trounces him in the smaller independent subgroup (46 to 11 percent). The same pattern holds on the previous PPP surveys and those from other organizations: Paul's support is consistently much higher among self-identified independents than among Republicans.

Ironically, however, the biggest differences between the CNN/Time and PPP polls comes not in terms of support measured for Ron Paul, but rather in their estimation of support for Romney and (on the most recent survey) for Rick Santorum. The three CNN/Time polls have found consistently less less support for Paul than PPP has, but the differences have been at most a percentage point or two.

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One important potential shortcoming for both surveys: Neither samples mobile phones. As the Washington Post reports, the most recent estimates find that 29 percent of Iowa adults had a cellphone but no landline in their household. The Washington Post/ABC survey conducted in early December found that Paul did better than Romney on interviews conducted over cellphones, while Romney did better than Paul on landline interviews.

We will have many more polls to chew over this week, although we would do well to heed the advice of Republican media consultant Mike Murphy. He warns via Twitter that the "poor SOB's" who participated in past caucuses "are getting, maybe, 863 phone calls a day (robo, events, ID)" from the campaigns. Conducting a telephone poll in this environment is getting more challenging.

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04:21 PM on 12/30/2011
clean house in november and make Ron Paul and put him in the WhiteHouse!
01:41 PM on 12/31/2011
you liberals are the reason this country is screwed up..quit voting before you destroy what country we have left
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MrSarcasm
Opinion Does Not Equal Truth
05:33 PM on 12/31/2011
Is this what you think you mean:

In American politics, the Southern strategy refers to the Republican Party strategy of winning elections in Southern states by exploiting anti-African American racism and fears of lawlessness among Southern white voters and appealing to fears of growing federal power in social and economic matters (generally lumped under the concept of states rights). Though the "Solid South" had been a longtime Democratic Party stronghold due to the Democratic Party's defense of slavery prior to the American Civil War and segregation for a century thereafter, many white Southern Democrats stopped supporting the party following the civil rights plank of the Democratic campaign in 1948 (triggering the Dixicrats), the African-American Civil Rights Movement, the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965, and desegregation.

The strategy was first adopted under future Republican President Richard Nixon in the late 1960s. The strategy was successful in some regards. It contributed to the electoral realignment of Southern states to the Republican Party, but at the expense of losing more than 90 percent of black voters to the Democratic Party.
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MrSarcasm
Opinion Does Not Equal Truth
05:34 PM on 12/31/2011
Few African Americans voted for George W. Bush and other Republicans in the 2004 elections, although it was a higher percentage than any GOP candidate since President Ronald Reagan. Following Bush's re-election, Ken Mehlman, Bush's campaign manager and Chairman of the RNC, held several large meetings with African-American business, community, and religious leaders. In his speeches, he apologized for his party's use of the Southern Strategy in the past. When asked about the strategy of using race as an issue to build GOP dominance in the once-Democratic South, Mehlman replied, "Republican candidates often have prospered by ignoring black voters and even by exploiting racial tensions," and, "by the '70s and into the '80s and '90s, the Democratic Party solidified its gains in the African-American community, and we Republicans did not effectively reach out. Some Republicans gave up on winning the African-American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization. I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong."
12:30 AM on 12/30/2011
CNN/TIME POLL ? ...... BWHAHAHHAAA ...... SILLY WABBIT !
07:44 PM on 12/29/2011
Romney has never met a position he could stand on for more than one news cycle. Unfortunately, I think that gives Ron Paul the edge in Iowa because like him or not he isn't changing his position on anything.
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Double Eagle
Centrist Independent
07:37 PM on 12/29/2011
The important National poll out today shows Romney 45% and Obama 39% of likely voters.
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s0uthparkc0nservative
If you only had a brain...
09:24 PM on 12/29/2011
But of course THAT poll doesn't count
12:28 AM on 12/30/2011
YEAH , ..... " LIKELY " ? ..... TOO FUNNY !
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Anonmouse33
The GOP, separating mind and state since 1968.
06:51 PM on 12/29/2011
how will america hold romn.ey accountable? he can't even do it himself -- he's denied his existence for decades...
06:39 PM on 12/29/2011
Readers, the only national-level candidate challenging Wall Street corruption is Ron Paul.

The banking crowd -- the Fed and precursors -- plays rough, life-or-death. Let's skip Lincoln for the moment. Did you know that James Garfield became President in 1881 with a firm grasp of where the problem lay:

"Whosoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce... And when you realise that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate."
-- James Garfield 1881

Within weeks of releasing this statement President Garfield was assassinated.

He touched a nerve. Now, wonder why Ron Paul is being attacked?

The award-winning documentary film, "The Secret of Oz" provides honest, eye-opening discussion of the root cause to our nation's problems, info the "fat cat" crew from Wall Street want Main Streeters to remain ignorant of.

The Secret of Oz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swkq2E8mswI (Winner, Best Docu of 2010)

Excellent further resources to open eyes are: (1) Ellen Hodgson Brown recent and popular book “Web of Debt”, (2) the earlier “Creature from Jekyll Island” by G. Edward Griffin, and (3) the book that first probed: “Secrets of the Federal Reserve” by Eustace Mullins. The third one's the true eye-opener...

Readers, please educate yourself.

Thank you, and Enjoy!
NoahScape
Knowledge is good - Emil Faber
06:46 PM on 12/29/2011
Wow, all you're missing is the name of the guy on the grassy knoll!
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messy
artist, writer, adventurer
07:04 PM on 12/29/2011
L. Frank Baum?
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hrpmap
Retired man still active..
09:14 PM on 12/29/2011
Wow, all yourmissing is a post that makes sense.
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messy
artist, writer, adventurer
07:16 PM on 12/29/2011
This was famously discredited: http://www.halcyon.com/piglet/Populism.htm

Found the link on Snopes.com.
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hrpmap
Retired man still active..
09:28 PM on 12/29/2011
Snopes has been proven to be a joke, most people know this and that's why you hardly see it used. David and Barbara Mikkelson in the San Fernando Valley of California started the website about 13 years ago - and they have no formal background or experience in investigative research. After a few years it gained popularity believing it to be unbiased and neutral, but over the past couple of years people started asking questions who was behind it and did they have a selfish motivation? The reason for the questions - or skepticims - is a result of snopes.com claiming to have the bottom line facts to certain questions or issue when in fact they have been proven wrong. Also, there were criticisms the Mikkelsons were not really investigating and getting to the 'true' bottom of various issues. I can personally vouch for that complaint.
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PeterNPaul
Giants only fear slingshots.
06:30 PM on 12/29/2011
I gave my grandkids ( a boy and girl) each a puppy for Christmas. We named one Ron and the other Paul.
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Spock
You are completely, absolutely, illogical
06:28 PM on 12/29/2011
I don't like Ron Paul but I hope that racist beat Mittens. I also hope that segregationist scares Mitt in New Hampshire and Virginia. The GOP leadership will be all in a tissy over this. The RNC convention should be one chaotic mess with the Paul brown shirts fighting the Mitt magic underwear crowd on the convention floor.
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messy
artist, writer, adventurer
07:17 PM on 12/29/2011
me too.
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hrpmap
Retired man still active..
09:30 PM on 12/29/2011
You betray your avatar, a logical thinker you are not.
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Spock
You are completely, absolutely, illogical
12:48 AM on 12/30/2011
Coming from a Ron Paul supporter that's a laughable remark.
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John Roman
I am the walrus
05:45 PM on 12/29/2011
"Ron Paul's characterization of the newsletters as only containing 'eight to ten sentences' that can be characterized as 'offending' is preposterous," he told the publication. "As anyone can see from the scans of the newsletters available on the TNR website or posted elsewhere, the documents contain pages upon pages of bigoted statements and outright paranoia". - Kirchick
05:27 AM on 12/30/2011
Even that was out of several thousands of pages. Ron Paul has taken responsibility for letting this stuff get through. Though he was the publisher, not the editor, and he wrote financial articles, he took responsibility IMMEDIATELY, a decade ago for letting his name be used for things he does not believe.This was discovered in 1998, and not one new development has happened to the story in all that time.
It is brought up every two years, like clockwork.

But the better question about "letting something go out under your name" is a fair critique and Ron Paul has said it is a fair critique.
But lets get some perspective. Nearly every Republican sponsored or cosigned the Patriot act without reading a single word. Nearly every Democrat sponsored or cosigned the Affordable care act without reading a single word. Nancy Pelosi famously said "We have to pass it to find out what is in it". Not reading what goes out under your name is everyday business for the same people accusing him.
Does the media really care if Ron Paul is a racist? Do these elected politicians really care if someone reads what goes out under their name?

Go to youtube to see the head of the TEXAS NAACP defending Paul over this issue a decade ago, many vidoes of black Americans who are absolutely outraged about these accusations, and stories from former patients who had Ron Paul as their only choice during a racist time.
05:39 PM on 12/29/2011
Something for the Republicans to be proud of, a neck and neck race between flip/flap and 'older than dirt'.
05:30 PM on 12/29/2011
What miserable choices the Iowa sideshow has produced for the nation.
Paul. Outlandish and now a proven bigot, but what southern conservative isn't?
Romney. A corporatist to the core and the ringer for the corporations to compete their US takeover.
Gingrich. Dangerous egotist and point man for the introduction of tyranny in America.
Perry. We have to question how this tent revival barker was even considered as a candidate. Bachmann. A terrific candidate if Mars had a seat in congress.
Santorum. Can never a win a general election or a state election again, for that matter.
Huntsman. The only one with any sense.
NoahScape
Knowledge is good - Emil Faber
05:39 PM on 12/29/2011
Hey, don't blame Iowa for the lousy GOP choices!
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TN60
I Hope You'll Dance
06:32 AM on 12/30/2011
Good ones.
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eagle1776
Socialist Against Obama
05:27 PM on 12/29/2011
Ron Paul. Do people finally see how insane the GOP is? Ron Paul of all people. But hey, it could be an advantage, If he wins the nomination (which he wont), but that would almost force a third party run by one(or hopefully more) of the other canidates, and split the vote all up.
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Walrus Man
05:23 PM on 12/29/2011
What Ron Paul tells, is the truth and the truth is not always welcome. You wanna hear more promises? re-elect Obama. or vote for Romney.... or Bachmann. You want everything free? All kind of rights, "Medical marihuana" do you want it in supositories? They will promise you that and more because their tongue is bigger than your brain.
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Spock
You are completely, absolutely, illogical
06:33 PM on 12/29/2011
That's right. Ron Paul wants blacks and gays to stay in their place. What kind of cabinet position will he give David Duke? Bush had a bust of Churchill in the oval office, Obama has Lincoln. Would Ron Paul have de Furhur?
11:50 PM on 12/31/2011
not sure who de furhur is (fuhrer?) but ron paul is as far from a nazi as one can get. the government we have now, and have had since 9-11, is getting pretty close to fascism (the combination of corporate and political power under an authoritarian ruler). just because obama has a bust of lincoln and says good things does not make him a good man. he must be judged by his actions: endless war, too big to fail, destruction of constitutional liberties.
05:17 PM on 12/29/2011
This all about nothing. RP doesn't have a chance in hell to get nominated or elected as president. He is anti-establishment to the core and the establishment won't let this happen. He has some good ideas and some not so good. But once you go against the old power you are done.

This is just a carnival side show.
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Ember Firedog
A satiated micro-bio is not empty.
05:16 PM on 12/29/2011
Oh goody. The prospect of clashing polls sends shivers down spines everywhere ............