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2012 Medicare Debate: Baby Boomers At Center Of Issue

2012 Medicare Debate Baby Boomers

RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR   01/ 1/12 10:15 AM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — Baby boomers take note: Medicare as your parents have known it is headed for big changes no matter who wins the White House in 2012. You may not like it, but you might have to accept it.

Dial down the partisan rhetoric and surprising similarities emerge from competing policy prescriptions by President Barack Obama and leading Republicans such as Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan.

Limit the overall growth of Medicare spending? It's in both approaches.

Squeeze more money from upper-income retirees and some in the middle-class? Ditto.

Raise the eligibility age? That too, if the deal is right.

With more than 1.5 million baby boomers a year signing up for Medicare, the program's future is one of the most important economic issues for anyone now 50 or older. Health care costs are the most unpredictable part of retirement, and Medicare remains an exceptional deal for retirees, who can reap benefits worth far more than the payroll taxes they paid in during their careers.

"People would like to have what they used to have. What they don't seem to understand is that it's already changed," said Gail Wilensky, a former Medicare administrator and adviser to Republicans. "Medicare as we have known it is not part of our future."

Two sets of numbers underscore that point.

First, Medicare's giant trust fund for inpatient care is projected to run out of money in 2024. At that point, the program will collect only enough payroll taxes to pay 90 percent of benefits.

Second, researchers estimate that 20 to 30 percent of the more than $500 billion that Medicare now spends annually is wasted on treatments and procedures of little or no benefit to patients.

Taken together, that means policymakers can't let Medicare keep running on autopilot and they'll look for cuts before any payroll tax increases.

Privatization is the biggest divide between Democrats and Republicans.

Currently about 75 percent of Medicare recipients are in the traditional government-run, fee-for-service program and 25 percent are in private insurance plans known as Medicare Advantage.

Ryan's original approach, part of a budget plan the House passed in the spring, would have put 100 percent of future retirees into private insurance. His latest plan, developed with Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., would keep traditional Medicare as an option, competing with private plans.

Older people would get a fixed payment they could use for private health insurance or traditional Medicare. Proponents call it "premium support." To foes, it's a voucher.

Under both of Ryan's versions, people now 55 or older would not have to make any changes. GOP presidential candidates Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich praise his latest plan.

How would it work? Would it save taxpayers money? Would it shift costs to retirees as Ryan's earlier plan did? Would Congress later phase out traditional Medicare? Those and other questions must still be answered.

"I'm not sure anybody has come up with a formula on this that makes people comfortable," said health economist Marilyn Moon, who formerly served as a trustee helping to oversee Medicare finances.

White House spokesman Jay Carney says the Wyden-Ryan plan "would end Medicare as we know it for millions of seniors," causing the traditional program to "wither on the vine."

But what administration officials don't say is that Obama's health care law already puts in place one of Ryan's main goals by limiting future increases in Medicare spending.

Ryan would do it with a fixed payment for health insurance, adjusted to allow some growth. In theory that compels consumers and medical providers to be more cost-conscious. Obama does it with a powerful board that can force Medicare cuts to service providers if costs rise beyond certain levels and Congress fails to act.

Like several elements of Obama's health care overhaul, the Independent Payment Advisory Board is in limbo for now, but it is on the books. If the board survives Republican repeal attempts, it could become one of the government's most important domestic agencies.

The White House wants to keep the existing structure of Medicare while "twisting the dials" to control spending, said a current Medicare trustee, economist Robert Reischauer of the Urban Institute think tank.

Ryan's latest approach is arguably an evolution of the current Medicare Advantage private insurance program, not a radical change, Reischauer said. That's particularly so if traditional Medicare remains an option.

"In the hot and heavy political debate we are in, participants are exaggerating the difference between the proposals," he said.

During failed budget negotiations with Republicans last summer, Obama indicated a willingness to make more major changes to Medicare, including gradually raising the age of eligibility to 67, increasing premiums for many beneficiaries, revamping co-payments and deductibles in ways that would raise costs for retirees, and cutting payments to drugmakers and other providers.

"I was surprised by how much the president was willing to offer in terms of Medicare changes without a more thorough vetting and discussion," said Moon. Obama says he will veto any plan to cut Medicare benefits without raising taxes on the wealthy.

Democrats are still hoping to use Ryan's privatization plans as a political weapon against Republicans in 2012, but the Medicare debate could cut both ways. For the 76 million baby boomers signing up over the next couple of decades, it will pay to be watching.

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Online:

Medicare: http://www.medicare.gov

Ryan-Wyden plan: http://tinyurl.com/ct7utja

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WASHINGTON — Baby boomers take note: Medicare as your parents have known it is headed for big changes no matter who wins the White House in 2012. You may not like it, but you might have to accep...
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06:01 PM on 01/12/2012
No Huffington I dont have to take it. There are things I can do and if MY money is not returned to me as I was told it would be for 35 year, I will take action.
frankieshoes1
lookitupyerdamnedself
12:13 AM on 01/10/2012
There is no mistaking the fact that the boomers are living with bullseyes painted on their backs. The same people who have paid the most into the sytem with money worth far more than it is today. The fact that overspending and undertaxation has left all forms of government searching for ways to cut back does not erase years of contribution into a system that the corporations did not want in the first place.
Every other industrialized nation has a health care plan in place that does not cater to the profits of the health care industry. Half of the lobbyists in Washington are health care lobbyists. Time to clean them out and cater to the health needs of all citizens. Health should not be for profit.
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sylvia wadlington
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10:51 AM on 01/08/2012
There are no jobs! Keeping seniors in the work force longer ties up jobs the younger people desperately need. Does anyone in Washington have a brain? If big pharma is causing the big problems, just dial them out. How? Use government grants to universities to formulate life saving drugs and dump big pharma all together. Those same students are the ones who graduate and go to work for big pharma anyway. Tax payers subsidise most universities, why not get some of our money back. I don't care if it's socialist, put a cross on it and call it Godist, we need to move forward, not backward on the social security issues and get away from all these free market, sacred cow ideas. What is best is what works best, it's time to give up all the labels and do something before our country crumbles away.
11:57 AM on 01/05/2012
What we need to do now is to redesign Medicare according to principles and strategies that actually improve the protections it provides seniors and at an affordable cost to them and to our children and grandchildren. Medicare should operate under a real budget, similar to other basic programs such as defense. The alternative approach to operating a budget is to allocate funds directly to Medicare beneficiaries so that the spending decisions are essentially “bottom up” and ultimately under the control of enrollees rather than health care or government officials. Medicare should be strengthened with catastrophic protection and thus become “real insurance.” The traditional fee-for-service form of Medicare should be converted into a premium-based system. Finally, premium support should be systematically linked to the income of seniors (http://eng.am/stUknA).
06:22 AM on 01/06/2012
We have a lot more protections in Medicare than in private insurance. Medicare is working except for the gouging of Big Pharma. I had private insurance before qualifying for Medicare. I was abused by them. They kept changing my health insurance policies after I became sick. I had at least 5 policies from them in less than a year. The woman in charge of billing tells me they can go back and change a policy and I still had to pay it..

If anyone needs help it is our younger generations. They need more protection from the health insurance industry and big pharma. Those who get health insurance paid for by their employer don't have a clue what the rest are paying.

Why doesn't anyone suggest that the health industry roll back their prices? If the republicans win the next election, 'Katy bar the door'.

There is no competition to speak of now. The private insurances are trying to see which one can take the most profits from their patients in our area.

The government is being hit with insurance too. That makes governing a lot more expensive.

What is costing Medicare so much is they are subsidizing prescription drugs with Medicare money, at least that is what I have read. They were subsidizing Advantage plans until Obama quit subsidizing.

It should not be that an industry like health insurance, big pharma and some other health costs can take so much money that not enough money is left for other
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sophie M
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06:54 PM on 01/04/2012
i am for medical care for all.....old , young, middle.
if govt sponsored, whatever works.
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sophie M
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06:44 PM on 01/04/2012
i wonder how many of the old pols are collecting SS.
and on Medicare ( i am sorry, i do not know much about medicare..who qualifies, etc)
07:10 PM on 01/04/2012
Congress started paying into Social Security in 1984.

They also get a TSP which is similar to a 401k. They can contribute up to $16,500 in pre-tax dollars to their TSP accounts in 2011, and they can receive up to 5 percent in matching funds from their “employer” which is us the taxpayer, since they work for us.

They also can draw a monthly pension based on tenure and pay history

Members have to remain in Congress for five years before they are eligible to receive a benefit at retirement age.

Their full retirement age is 62. Some qualify for a full or reduced pension as young as 50 depending on how long they have worked there.

There is a lot online about pensions for Congress.

http://www.rollcall.com/issues/56_80/-203229-1.html
11:28 AM on 01/04/2012
The average person should be able to pay for health care, food and a good home at an affordable price. We have not all been cut from the same cookie cutter. After we have money enough for food and shelter then we should have a good income to spend on what we want. Some may want to spend more on decorating their home, gardening, traveling, photography, electronics, etc. Whatever.
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Jeany
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03:47 PM on 01/03/2012
I want to see a system to ends for-profit insurance for basic care. Start there.
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sylvia wadlington
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10:53 AM on 01/08/2012
Fanned and faved. I want to see that too! And I want it for all Americans too!
03:18 PM on 01/03/2012
Maybe soon our grown children can go into a sterile lab with a testing card. For example, there would a machine there that says 'start here'. The first machine does the standard tests, then it sends you to another machine for more testing. By the time you go through the machines, you and your doctor will know what is wrong with you.

Hopefully the robots will also add up the LOW charges then all the physician would have to do is write prescriptons. Oh wait.... my doctors have electronic prescription writers. I am glad since the prescription will be easier to read.

Surgery could be done by robots too.
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troutster
Fish fear me. Otherwise, I'm pretty harmless.
11:03 AM on 01/03/2012
I have a solution to the medicare problem: Leave the country. Retire abroad.

Seriously. I know this would only work for people in the right situation re: family, etc. But, let's face it, retirement in the US isn't going to be as good in the future, as it's been in the past.

I'm looking at Costa Rica and Australia. Both with nationalized medicine, with nice tropical climates. If anyone has any other suggestions, I'd be happy to hear them.
09:34 AM on 01/05/2012
The only thing that could also help is to pay off all debts while working.

People need to be aware they pay taxes on 100% of their withdrawals from their 401ks because they didn't pay taxes on any money they put in the 401k.

They shouldn't draw all their 401k money all at once. Use a federal income tax calculator online. You give an estimate of income etc but no name is used or any personal info. Stay in the 10-15% bracket if you can. It is put on top of Social Security so that puts it in a higher bracket if you take much out.

I don't mind paying taxes. My husband and I have paid them all of our lives. But you can't be too miserly with your retirement money. You can't replace it.
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Brian Novotny
What happened to Democracy?
10:16 AM on 01/03/2012
The baggers have the answer, when someone old, disabled, poor, unemployed, homeless, uninsured gets sick, just let them die, that will be their medicare plan, while they privatize the rest and make the costs so high only the 1 or 2% can afford it anyways, which it is on the fast track to becoming anyways, this capitalist model is broken and cannot or will not be able to be fixed anymore. The sooner we realize this and move forward, the better, as the longer we wait it will only get harder and harder for the 99%
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Jeany
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03:49 PM on 01/03/2012
As soon as they find there's no more gold they can mine from your failing body's bank account, they cut you free to die.
12:49 AM on 01/03/2012
Medicare is NOT the problem, it is the solution. LOWER the age to cover people starting at age 55 or so at first, so that they afford to get care BEFORE they hit age 65 and go onto Medicare with all their diseases untreated; younger people are healthier, so add healthier people to the Medicare rolls to lower the cost per person. Raise premiums equitably, putting the money into a public program for all rather than into the pockets of insurance-company executives and shareholders. Reform hospital accounting to be more like real-world accounting, and let hospitals have block grants and fix their finances internally.
There is so much that could be done other than the tired old political arguments that are designed to manipulate people’s opinions/emotions and hide the facts.
AAARRGH!
09:26 AM on 01/03/2012
Flight 666 now boarding to Athens...wake up Sal....
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cris robin
you're unique, just like everyone else
03:05 PM on 01/02/2012
this capitalist system is too expensive to afford anymore..
09:27 AM on 01/03/2012
Only for those not equipped to compete.
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cris robin
you're unique, just like everyone else
10:02 AM on 01/03/2012
the 99% you're talking about I know ..
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cats22
Minds are like books; best used when opened
12:00 PM on 01/03/2012
And who would those be? The American public is paying for a great healthcare plan for the members of Congress, pus their respective state legislators. The general public is not 'entitled' to be part of that plan. After paying for all those rich fat cats to have their free healthcare, the public sometimes cannot afford their own healthcare. Is it the public or the congress/legislatures who are not equipped to compete? What happened to the idea that you did not need to be rich to live in this country?
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cris robin
you're unique, just like everyone else
02:24 PM on 01/02/2012
"At a recent town-hall meeting in suburban Simpsonville, a man stood up and told Rep. Robert Inglis (R-S.C.) to "keep your government hands off my Medicare."

"I had to politely explain that, 'Actually, sir, your health care is being provided by the government,' " Inglis recalled. "But he wasn't having any of it."
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Captain Hindsight
Seeking the truth is my only agenda.
01:53 PM on 01/02/2012
No matter how hard you toil and stive no one leaves this life alive.
We have to take a realistic view of life and death. An end with dignity and love is a fitting end to a life well lived.
The rich can afford to be freeze dried and hope for the best. Don't waste money feeding dying plants. Store the seeds till the spring we all hope for.
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Sharon Hanson
Skeptical of the *pseudo-skeptics*
08:29 AM on 01/03/2012
Captain you're point is well taken however it is not the individuals that are the problem. It's the predatory healthcare system that provides incentives to providers that proform the most expensive treatments. Many of these treatments maim and kill and yet they get fast tracked by the FDA. In order for us to have a real impact on healthcare costs we need to stop these toxic treatments. Think surgical mesh, Vioxx, gadolinium based contrasting agents, vaccine injury (we're up to 69 now) Avandia, heart stents and on and on. These are the drivers that are cripling our healthcare system. These costs cannot be sustained.
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Captain Hindsight
Seeking the truth is my only agenda.
11:37 AM on 01/03/2012
There are very few "New Drugs" they are mostly just the same old "Bad Drugs" reformulated, repackaged and re-patented and designed to make a "Healthy Profit" and not to profit anyones health..