HuffPost Book Club: The Tiger's Wife By Tea Obreht, Part 1 Of 3

First Posted: 01/02/12 06:53 PM ET Updated: 01/17/12 08:54 PM ET

Hi HuffPost Book Club readers! We're here to discuss chapters 1-4 of Tea Obreht's 'The Tiger's Wife.'

For chapters 5-8, meet us over here!

To add to this discussion, please comment below or on our Facebook page, or you can tweet to us with the #hpbookclub hashtag. We want to hear from you.

A little about who you'll be hearing from...

Andrew Losowsky, Books Editor
I'm British, so anything you think I've spelled wrong, is actually just spelled older. I look for stories to take my brain into new spaces, and I'll be particularly discussing the facts as we think we know them, and the clues I think we're being given by the story. Let me know if you think I'm wrong!

Zoƫ Triska, Associate Books Editor
I was a Literature major so I can't help analyzing every single thing (from the syntax and language to metaphors, similes, you name it). I (reluctantly) admit that I'm one of those people who Googles phrases, places, names every couple of pages when I'm reading. There are constantly things that stump me, though so I'd love to hear your thoughts on the significance of words, places, phrases, events that take place in the book.

Madeleine Crum, Assistant Books Editor
I like looking at language particularities, but in case you think that's a snooze (you wouldn't be alone), I'm also interested in reading what critics say about books and whether their reviews are spot on or way off. Let's talk about it.

Annemarie Dooling, Community Editor
Quotes, locations and descriptions speak to me the same way characters do. I love dissecting the same details that tell us more about the story than the actual prose. If you read the same books over and over and over again the same way you visit an out-of-town friend, we're going to get along just fine.

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@ ABookNut : Dreamt about zoo animals in a hotel lobby. (Giraffe was very sweet). #readingtigerswife #hpbookclub

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(BTW: I couldn't *not* think of Houdini, anyone else? - Annemarie)

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@ saumyasharma19 : "Pain and fear are immediate, and when they're gone, we're left with the concept, but not the true memory." - The Tiger's Wife #hpbookclub

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This reviewer at The Observer was not a fan of "The Tiger's Wife," deeming it "a chapter book," and "not for adults." I couldn't disagree more.

Her reasoning is that Natalia's "clear-cut quests" and "earnest determination to seek the truth," her "blandly appealing intelligence" are an attempt to impress more seasoned readers and writers. Obreht is only 26, after all.

So what do you think? Is "The Tiger's Wife" really a story for kids?

-Madeleine

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Hello book clubbers! I've been enjoying "The Tiger's Wife" while reading on the subway!

So. Chapter 4 begins with a bombing that frees a tiger from a zoo in 1941.

What did you think of Chapter 4 themes? Let us know in the comments, via email at hpbookclub@huffingtonpost.com or on Twitter at #hpbookclub!

-Madeleine

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Admittedly, I've only read through Chapter 3. So as a disclaimer, there's a good chance I'll change my mind later in the book.

Thus far, I really don't like Natalia. My reasons for this are completely personal. I think the main reason is because I can't relate to her at all. I find her very cold, overly skeptical, and cynical. She seems unemotional about so many things.

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Chapter 3 continues with themes that are seen in the book.

-Zoƫ

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@ saumyasharma19 : .@HuffPostBooks curled up in bed on a freezing winter morning,reading the tiger's wife on my kindle = heaven on earth!! #hpbookclub

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@ JanDeLaRosa : So far, the book is the narrative equivalent of an Allende novel rewritten by Emir Kusturica #hpbookclub @HuffPostBooks

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@ marinandres : Loved the descriptioĀ­n of the forty days of the soul's journey home. #hpbookclub #thetigerswife

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Tradition is another theme we see reemerging in this chapter. Here, it's continued to be carried on by the telling of fables, and the hallmark fable of chapter two, and possibly the first half of the book, is the story of the deathless man.

I found a lot of tweets and emails and comments from you all remarking how this interjection really solidified the reading for you. Without saying too much, let's focus on a few plot points from this story inside a story:

Spoiler alert! Click here to read on.

- Annemarie

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@ Rtnrlfy : About halfway through 'Tiger's Wife' for #hpbookclub - not resonating with any of the characters so far. Except the tiger, that is.

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Happy Sunday book clubers. I'm coming to you live from the only place open on a Sunday night on Staten Island.

Chapter two brings us lots of reoccurring themes, but most notable would be the presence of animals. Before we dip into the spoilers, what do you feel the intention of animals is at this point in the story?

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May contain a spoiler if you haven't reached this part of the story yet...

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@ jenna_goodall : Finished Chapter 1. Good introduction to vivid characters. I'm definitely intrigued to read more! What's up with the diggers? #hpbookclub

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Hi everyone! We've had a lot of questions revolving around when we will be blogging, and when you should tune in to this blog. We purposely don't want to mandate times you need to be done with your reading and encourage you to take as long as you need to, and flip back here to read along as a guide.

However, if you'd like to keep up with Team Books, we're planning to update this page twice a week, toward the end of the week, with one chapter per update. We'll be sure to give notice in our newsletters, tweets and blogs so you know when to tune in and feel free to suggest alternate schedules or thoughts.

- Annemarie

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@ HuffPostBooks : We've had some wonderful submissions for our slideshow. Where are *you* reading as part of the #HPBookClub? http://t.co/csVOqgx4

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What we learn in Chapter One - and what our Books Editor, Andrew, thinks might be important

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Let us know your thoughts on Chapter one below, via email at hpbookclub@huffingtonpost.com or on Twitter at #hpbookclub - we'll post the most thought provoking on here.

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Click below to read about the introduction, including some questions to think about from our Books Editor, Andrew.

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It's not a book about Tiger Woods.

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Here's what some of you thought the book might be about, going on nothing but the title. Only time will tell if you're right...

Foenix Pheather:

Never having read a page I think it is about a woman who is married to a Tiger-of-aĀ­-man. It is about her own use of imaginatioĀ­n to escape into independenĀ­ce.

Grey Author:

Since I know absolutely nothing about this book, save the title, I'm guessing it isn't about a tiger.

Sherlock 221B: If i have to give a guess , i think its its memoir of very famous tiger's wife of a equally famous zoo ...

Meredith Rutter:

I predict title refers to a folktale of sorts...?

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If you haven't read any of The Tiger's Wife yet, what do you think it's about?

Those of us here who haven't read it are about to answer... but what do you think? Let us know in the comments!

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Hi HuffPost Book Club readers! We're here to discuss chapters 1-4 of Tea Obreht's 'The Tiger's Wife.' For chapters 5-8, meet us over here! To add to this discussion, please comment below or on...
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flyinghigh0905
03:01 PM on 01/31/2012
Just finished reading chapter 4 of the book on my kindle app. I think I am as of yet undecided about whether or not I like the book. There seems to be a lot of jumping around to different points in time. I read someone else's comment that Natalia seems cold, which I kind of agree with. She really didn't make herself look very smart when she was confronting the father of the sick little girl.

So far I have enjoyed the story about the deathless man, and a little bit about the tiger and the grandfather growing up. However, I a little confused about what was going on in the smokehouse. I have this yucky feeling about the tiger and about the deaf mute girl... if you get my drift. But I could be wrong. It's just that there is a lot of description of the smell of the tiger and of musk, along with the deaf mute smelling like the tiger as well. But perhaps my mind just went to a dark place....? Any one have thoughts?
06:51 PM on 01/28/2012
Please add "Housekeeping" by Marilynne Robinson. It speaks to our times and is also timeless. I think it would prompt very fruitful discussions.
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Annemarie Dooling
HuffPost Community Editor, loves cats & airports
08:52 PM on 01/17/2012
Hi everyone! Just a reminder that we're picking up on the second page for the rest of the book! Find the new discussion here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/02/huffpost-book-club-the-tigers-wife-2_n_1180056.html?ref=book-club
09:56 AM on 01/17/2012
Agonized for days over not finding a copy locally and falling behind, then spent a delightful weekend catching up. What an enchanting book so far! Alas, I'm now beginning Chapter 6 and wondering where my guidance has gone?
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Annemarie Dooling
HuffPost Community Editor, loves cats & airports
08:50 PM on 01/17/2012
We're picking up with Chapters 5 and 6 this week on the next discussion page - we've outgrown this one! We'll be here this week: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/02/huffpost-book-club-the-tigers-wife-2_n_1180056.html?ref=book-club
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Jodi Lampert
02:10 PM on 01/14/2012
Regarding what I thought the book was about before I started, I'm going to humiliate myself publicly and confess I thought it had something to do with the memoir about the Tiger Mom's. (Whip, whip). Was I wrong... I came in here today to read something else about this, and found this discussion up to Chapter 4, where I (almost) am. I am loving this Book Club!
This is such an amazing read. I've almost never experienced having to read something this slowly. Every sentence feels important.
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Annemarie Dooling
HuffPost Community Editor, loves cats & airports
10:50 AM on 01/15/2012
So glad you like it! This book is definitely different than any of us thought it would be. I'm really glad, though, that I'm reading along and not ahead, since there have been so many relevant points in these comments. It's been extremely beneficial to the reading to hear what everyone else thinks.
01:44 PM on 01/14/2012
Ms. Obreht is in fine company with her creation using magical realism or some might say fantasy to tell her story and comment on the ravages of war in a mythical place resembling the Balkans.

In "The Jungle Book" Kipling in 1894 used the collection of stories as allegories to teach and allude to political and social commentary of the era. Similar to the 1865 "Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll. Anthropomorphic creatures in both novels "speak" on customs and values.

Likewise, Ms. Obreht uses the animals as a mirror to ourselves. In Chapter 4 when the tiger escapes he, "had no destination, only the tug of self preservation." And as he travels from place to place, he appears to be more human than the death and destruction around him. Who are the beasts in the "human jungle?" As time goes on, the tiger begins to revert to wild instincts like the humans who had lost their humanity in the din and atrocities of war.
01:33 PM on 01/14/2012
I don't think it is a story for kids at all. But I also feel since it is Obreht's first novel, that maybe it comes across, at least with the way the reviewer summarizes, as a bit more simple than it could. At least what I've read so far, I don't feel a deep connection with the characters. I think that maybe depth is lacking in understanding the time period, location, folklore and characters in general. It all sort of stays to the surface and has yet, for me, to push under to the point that I am drowning in it and can't put the book down for want to read on.
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Annemarie Dooling
HuffPost Community Editor, loves cats & airports
10:52 AM on 01/15/2012
That's interesting, Katie. We've received a lot of emails from folks who are having a hard time reading along because they feel the story gets too complicated. Do you think, as I do, that to read this boo you need to start off with a suspension of reality and tumble into the fables? I almost feel like I'm approaching this as if I would Grimm's Fairy Tales or something.
03:37 PM on 01/15/2012
I think in almost any reading, you need to almost never go into it knowing exactly what is going to happen, since twists in the storyline or the unexpected is what keeps readers hooked. I think going into this one, it helps if you have read magical realism before or at least understand the genre a bit. I think my trouble connecting with it is knowing absolutely nothing about the Balkans or the war to which is the context of the book. We don't get much historical context to go off of, which I always like to have. Might mean I just have to do some research on my own to better understand feel connected. However, she also may be leaving out specific historical details about the war because she is commenting on how war affects people in general -- no matter the time or place of the war.
07:22 PM on 01/13/2012
I can't wait 'till you guys finish the book. I'm having a hard time keeping my lips, (and typing fingers) zipped!
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Annemarie Dooling
HuffPost Community Editor, loves cats & airports
02:57 PM on 01/20/2012
Would love to hear your thoughts on the next chapters over on the next page, since you've already read the whole thing!
11:25 AM on 01/13/2012
I'm zeroing in on the end of the first four chapters. I've taken a long time getting used to the style in which this is written, but I'm moving along fine with it now. The thing that bothered me most of all was having no time period or geographical reference for placing this story until well into it, and even then I was still confused but getting used to it. HPbookclub's post referring to the AP article by Michael Astor answered all my questions about setting. BTW, I love the parrot character that likes to recite poetry, and such complex poetry! So inventive.
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Annemarie Dooling
HuffPost Community Editor, loves cats & airports
12:52 PM on 01/13/2012
Glad I could help Meredith. I had trouble with the setting and timing as well and that article eally put it into perspective and also added to the fantasy element.
12:14 AM on 01/17/2012
Annemarie, would you mind posting that link again? Sounds like it could be helpful for me, but I must have missed it.

Thanks!
04:37 AM on 01/13/2012
I loved her descriptions of herself as a teenager. Very skillful in poetically, succinctly describing the attitude of a teen. And I could imagine a teen in that emerging war.
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prfktstrngr527
Feeding trolls makes them grow. Flag and ignore.
04:02 PM on 01/12/2012
I am assuming the significance with animals has to do with the grandfather's having had The Jungle Book be his first reading after learning the alphabet. I believe the encounter the village had with the tiger made the book all the more magical for the grandfather, it appearing to have walked off the pages. Even more significant I thought was the link between Mowgli and Shere Khan and the appearance of invincibility. This of course made me think that there may be some significance between this and his encounter with the deathless man.
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Annemarie Dooling
HuffPost Community Editor, loves cats & airports
12:53 PM on 01/13/2012
Which chapter are you on? I'd love to hear your thoughts on specific animals. The parrot or the elephant.
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prfktstrngr527
Feeding trolls makes them grow. Flag and ignore.
02:09 PM on 01/13/2012
Chapter four tells the story of the grandfathers as a boy teaching himself to read while shepherding and his first book, The Jungle Book, given to him by the apothecary. There seems to have been a strong attachment to animals from the beginning with the trips to the zoo but, yes the elephant. The moment seems to be a significant enough to want to keep it a shared secret and which prompted the sharing of the secret of the deathless man that he shred with her. Chapter four is also where the tiger is made aware to the villagers and the connection to the image to Shere Khan. I believe the question of significance was asked above under the post titled Chapter two. As for what chapter I'm on, I just finished the book half hour ago.
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prfktstrngr527
Feeding trolls makes them grow. Flag and ignore.
05:25 PM on 01/11/2012
Since, my comment wasn't posted, I assume I came to a conclusion that wasn't supposed to be revealed yet?
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Annemarie Dooling
HuffPost Community Editor, loves cats & airports
10:23 PM on 01/11/2012
That's a pretty safe bet. :)
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Steamboater
Forget hope. Agitate.
12:28 PM on 01/11/2012
I had to laugh when Natalia talks about that "backwater" remedy when alcohol is used to lower fever. When I was kid, whenever I had a fever, my mother would rub my body down with alcohol. She said it would draw the fever out. Her mother was from Russia so I guess my mother learned that from her. My mother also had another backwater remedy for a bump on the head. When I did get a lump after banging my head against something, she'd take a butter knife and rub it on the ice in the freezer and then press the flat part of the knife hard down on the bump, and she'd push and push. The remedy hurt more than the actual bumping of my head.
11:57 AM on 01/12/2012
Obviously international remedies. My mother who is Greek had both these 'cures' in her arsenal and she used both on me as a kid. The butter trick was particularly unpleasant although it took my attention away from the pain on my head inflicted by another kid with a tree branch during a disagreement.
07:19 PM on 01/13/2012
But did she cure warts by rubbing them with a dishrag and then burying the dishrag? Or is that only an old Irish cure? :))
09:49 PM on 01/13/2012
In reply to your comment in my box:

Not Irish, but "cupping" is very, very common in Asia. It's supposed to get the toxins out of your body. I can't see any scientific reason for it to work, but I have to admit, I've done it, (kinda like getting a massage, it feels good). and it does seem to work. You feel a bit hung over, have very strong, odd smelling urine, then after sleep and a lot of water, you do feel a lot better.
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CountLeo
It's a rich language - learn to use it.
08:02 PM on 01/14/2012
Not really a backwoods remedy but I cannot tell you how much Mecuricome I painted all over my body as a child. My grandparents were Czech and loved the stuff. It never occurred to them that painting yourself with mercury could be a bad thing.

For breakfast - even at four or five - I would have coffee so strong it would melt a spoon half and half with condensed milk, and French bread.
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Steamboater
Forget hope. Agitate.
08:47 PM on 01/14/2012
I remember mecurichrome. It was used like iodine for cuts etc. Isn't that the same though as iodine?
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Steamboater
Forget hope. Agitate.
08:51 PM on 01/14/2012
I remember my grandfather drinking something he called Vichy Water. I tasted it as a kid and threw up. He  said it was very healthy for you but it tasted like rotten eggs, probably because of the sulfur content.
11:59 AM on 01/11/2012
I would enjoy anything by Erik Larson.
03:50 PM on 01/10/2012
Loved the description of the forty days of the soul's journey home. It is always interesting to learn about other cultures and their vision of the world. Here in Costa Rica which is mainly catholic, the people meet for nine days usually at night to pray God. This is believed to help the soul to rest in peace and reach the heaven.