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Rick Santorum, Ron Paul Stretch Truth On Iran: Fact Check

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Posted: 01/02/12 11:31 AM ET

The Following post first appeared on FactCheck.org.

Iran is very much in the news, with President Obama signing legislation that imposes new sanctions against Iran, which has warned it may retaliate by closing a key oil route. But there was more heat than light on the critical issue of Iran from two GOP presidential candidates this weekend:

  • On CNN's "State of the Union," Rep. Ron Paul falsely claimed the International Atomic Energy Agency "did not find any evidence" that Iran is "on the verge of a [nuclear] weapon." However, the IAEA reported on Nov. 8 that Iran has carried out activities "relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device."
  • On "Meet the Press," Rick Santorum went too far in claiming Obama "basically" said the 2009 reelection of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was "a legitimate one." Actually, Obama said he could not "state definitively one way or another" whether the election was legitimate, because the U.S. did not have election monitors in Iran.

Several Republican candidates appeared on the Sunday talk shows to talk politics and policy, with the Iowa caucuses two days away. A key topic was Iran.

Paul, Jan. 1: At least Iran is in the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, and that's a step and they do have inspections. The AEIE did not find any evidence that they are on the verge of a weapon.

We assume Paul meant to refer to the International Atomic Energy Agency or IAEA. We could find no listing of any organization under the acronym "AEIE" dealing with nuclear issues.

And the fact is, the IAEA found as recently as Nov. 8 that Iran has carried out activities "relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device." That led the BBC to report: "Correspondents say this is the International Atomic Energy Agency's toughest report on Iran to date."

Indeed, the IAEA report is full of foreboding language. For example, on page 7:

IAEA, Nov. 8: Since 2002, the Agency has become increasingly concerned about the possible existence in Iran of undisclosed nuclear related activities involving military related organizations, including activities related to the development of a nuclear payload for a missile, about which the Agency has regularly received new information.

And on page 8, the report states that Iran has carried out several activities relevant to developing a nuclear explosive device, including "acquisition of nuclear weapons development information and documentation from a clandestine nuclear supply network" and work on "development of an indigenous design of a nuclear weapon including the testing of components."

On the other hand, Paul was correct when he said that even the head of the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service, had said that a nuclear armed Iran would not be "an existential threat" to Israel. And he was also correct when he said that Meir Dagan, a former Mossad chief, had said that bombing Iranian nuclear sites "right now would be stupid."

According to a report from the English-language Israeli news agency Haaretz, Mossad chief Tamir Pardo "said that Israel was using various means to foil Iran's nuclear program and would continue to do so, but if Iran actually obtained nuclear weapons, it would not mean the destruction of the State of Israel." The news report quoted three unnamed Israeli ambassadors who had been among those briefed in secret by the Mossad chief.

And former Mossad chief Dagan said in November in a television interview that if Israel attacks Iran, it would lead to a regional war with many deaths, paralyzing life in the Jewish state.

While Paul was downplaying Iran as a threat, Santorum criticized Obama as too weak in his dealings with the country.

Santorum, Jan. 1: Number one, he didn't support the pro-democracy movement in Iran in 2009 during the Green Revolution. Almost immediately after the election, I mean, excuse me, like with hours after the, the polls closed, Ahmadinejad announced that he won with 62 percent of the vote. Within a few days, President Obama basically said that that was — election was a legitimate one.

Iran's presidential election was June 12, 2009, and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad declared victory — triggering protests in Tehran. On June 15, Obama said at a press conference: "We weren't on the ground, we did not have observers there, we did not have international observers on hand, so I can't state definitively one way or another what happened with respect to the election. But what I can say is that there appears to be a sense on the part of people who were so hopeful and so engaged and so committed to democracy who now feel betrayed. And I think it's important that, moving forward, whatever investigations take place are done in a way that is not resulting in bloodshed and is not resulting in people being stifled in expressing their views."

Obama issued a statement five days later again condemning Iran's post-election "violent and unjust actions against its own people" and asserting that the U.S. "stands with all who...exercise" the "universal rights to assembly and free speech." It was one of many such statements.

The Washington Times on June 27 wrote that Obama was being cautious in what he said about the election results because he didn't want to be accused of interfering and providing Ahmadinejad with a propaganda "tool."

Washington Times, June 27: While other leaders have been more out front in their criticism, Mr. Obama has taken pains not to appear to meddle in the debate on the actual election results, arguing he doesn't want his words to become propaganda for the Iranian regime. "Only I'm the president of the United States, and I've got responsibilities in making certain that we are continually advancing our national security interests and that we are not used as a tool to be exploited by other countries," he said at a press conference Tuesday.

Santorum went on to say Obama "turned his back" on the Iranian protesters, but supported the "radicals" in Egypt who deposed "an ally of ours in Mubarak." The fact is Obama treated both cases similarly: condemning the governments' use of violence against their own citizens and supporting the protesters right to protest.

--Brooks Jackson and Eugene Kiely

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Rowwdy
Truth Will Set You Free
02:03 PM on 01/03/2012
*" Rep. Ron Paul falsely claimed the International Atomic Energy Agency "did not find any evidence" that Iran is "on the verge of a [nuclear] weapon."
Iran says it intends to use the facility to increase uranium enrichment to near 20 percent, claiming this is needed to fuel its existing research reactor or other reactors for which ground has yet to be broken. Expanding, and moving underground, its enrichment to this level marks a significant provocation and brings Iran still “closer to having the capability” to produce weapons grade uranium.
http://energy.gov/downloads/secretary-steven-chu-remarks-prepared-delivery-2011-iaea-general-conference
“At least Iran is in the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, and that's a step and they do have inspections”.
Iran did become a signed ratified country to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty on July 1, 1968;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_parties_to_the_Nuclear_Non-Proliferation_Treaty
Iran’s principal export destinations in 2010 were Iraq-5.5%, China-5.3%, United Arab Emirates-4.2% and Australia at 0.2%; Iran’s principal import sources in 2010 were United Arab Emirates-28.6%, China-10.4%, Germany-8.2% and Australia at .01%. According to the International Trade Commission Iran had Imports for Consumption in the amount of $93,700,000 and Domestic Exports of $200,400,000 for year 2010…
http://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/cy_m3_run.asp
I’m not a Ron Paul fan, but facts are facts…
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
04:15 PM on 01/03/2012
well said. This is more fear and war mongering against Iran so the MIC can make more money.
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EcnelisDoogod
B the change you want 2C
04:34 PM on 01/03/2012
Yup.

War is a racket. -- General Smedley
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kbeth
Dear Jesus, Save us from the Christians. Amen
10:27 AM on 01/03/2012
President Obama's responses are always appropriate for the situation. all the Republicans can do is twist it, distort it, lie about it and hope their supporters are too dumb or too lazy to check. So far Obama's foreign policy has been mature and responsible while the Republicans act like a bunch of posturing, bragging hot heads, except Paul whose foreign policy is naive and dangerous.
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Junaid Noori
02:29 AM on 01/08/2012
Obama fan boy alert.
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kbeth
Dear Jesus, Save us from the Christians. Amen
03:37 AM on 01/08/2012
Wrong, Obama fan WOMAN who recognizes and speaks the truth.
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Ed C Atlanta
Justice for all,,It's an Entitlement
09:40 AM on 01/03/2012
True to the republican credo of this current crop of clowns,,when you don't know the answer to a question,,just make schitt up and hope it sticks,,,we are in deep doodoo,if any of these clowns make it to the whitehouse,,,
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p456
Walking Tall.
07:31 AM on 01/03/2012
GOPTKOCHKLANBAGGERS are all h8tful liars and cannot be trusted.
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kathy smelser
07:02 AM on 01/03/2012
REPUBLICAN training school should start teaching how to tell the truth .....i have not heard one of them tell us that the truth will set you free
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09:10 AM on 01/03/2012
It's against the republican creed!
01:48 AM on 01/03/2012
The quote actually says could be relevent. It is not definitive. The entire report is full of qualifiers. Lots of maybes, could bes, may indicate, suggests.

Way to blow it factcheck.
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Charles Queen
I am a disabled nam vet
10:19 PM on 01/02/2012
Well,Paul did restate himself so thats ok,I mean he did go back and did the duhh thing and then said the true reality of it all.Iran say's it has made it's first nuclear rod,on the other hand their naval commander sai they wqere withdrawing any atempts to block the straights,then they said they would postpone anyy test firing of misles but did it anyways,so it's getting down to what do we believe and or do not believe from them.They did allow inspections once but the inspectors were also very restricted as to what and where they were alllowed to inspect but the did find the evidence that Iran was working on the program.Iran says they want to reopen talks with the 6 major powers but when?There needs to be a confirmed date and soon,not 6 months from now,there has to be a dealine set and they have to be made certain that there wil be no excuses etc for not meeting any deadline.The thing is that even if they have th talks reopen their still going to br working on their nuclear progect the whole time talks are going on.It's not the Iranian people as a whole,hell even they hate their leaders and have for quite some time.It's the Iranian government thats the problem
09:44 PM on 01/02/2012
These goober clowns are not as well up on things than I am. That makes me scared. I am just a hick who loves to READ news from a local source. I read local English translations of newspapers from all over the world.
08:42 PM on 01/02/2012
Someone has to factcheck, factcheck. Maybe they have a comprehension problem. Iran is not on the verge of developing a nuclear weapon, IAEA doesn't claim it. The US doesn't even claim it. So Ron Paul is right. Santorum, ah he is all Santorum on this subject.
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woodsjs
09:57 PM on 01/02/2012
Ditto. Ron Paul is correct on this one.
08:41 PM on 01/02/2012
I'm still wondering where the WMD's from Iraq are.

I have stopped believing government propeganda after learning of the many false flags our country runs in order to get citizen approval.

We have been hearing the same stories about Iran for years.

Also, we are the ones responsible for the way their country is now, as we booted out the democratic government that they had in 1953 and installed the dictatorship it has now.

I have stopped believing the Fed Government long ago, but I trust the only honest candidate, Ron Paul.

Ron Paul 2012!!!
08:32 PM on 01/02/2012
Sometimes you need to stretch the truth when trying to sway an audience using fear-based rhetoric.
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25yep
If you have no sense of humor, why are you here?
08:29 PM on 01/02/2012
Jay-sus luvs me, yes I know, for the Bay-ble tells me so . . .
So I'll lie through my teeth to get elected President.
08:24 PM on 01/02/2012
Let me help the author out.

Verge: The point beyond which an action, state, or condition is likely to begin or occur; the brink.

So is Iran on the verge of having a nuke? Are they on the brink of having one?

No, from the IAEA report it says they downloaded some designs and built some components. That is hardly on the verge.
Threepointturn
Jon Stewart watches Fox "news", so you don't have
04:33 PM on 01/02/2012
They criticize the President of the United States and use lies to back up their assertions. And, I'm not just talking about Fox News gop propaganda channel.
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okim5150
I only drink to make you more interesting
08:16 PM on 01/02/2012
Over and over, I've seen the folks on CNN let political candidates tell outrageous lies, unchallenged.
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Janet Anderson
independent andy
06:31 AM on 01/03/2012
more and more this seems to be happening. CNN is now FOX NEWS part deux
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kbeth
Dear Jesus, Save us from the Christians. Amen
10:41 AM on 01/03/2012
Same thing happens on any PBS news show if its an interview, things get interesting in debates about the candidates though.
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marinfan
04:04 PM on 01/02/2012
Huffpo has 3 recycled articles in the politics section today, including this one...

They probably think no one pays attention. They're right.
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sharin
liberal and proud of it
05:00 PM on 01/02/2012
so I guess you admitting that you are "no one"
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marinfan
06:00 AM on 01/03/2012
Congratulations, you have failed at syntax.
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kbeth
Dear Jesus, Save us from the Christians. Amen
10:45 AM on 01/03/2012
keeping the news going 24/7 and keeping it interesting has to be hard, I tell myself that whenever I get tired of the same articles that hang around for days or get recycled.