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Asian Americans In University Of California System Decrease, Replaced By Students From China

Asian Americans In University Of California System

First Posted: 01/ 4/2012 7:01 pm Updated: 01/ 5/2012 1:13 pm

As the University of California looks to shore up its shaky financial situation in the face of decreased funding from Sacramento, the system's effort to increase the proportion of out-of-state students has had an interesting effect--pushing out Asian American students at the expense of Chinese ones.

According to a Bloomberg report, in the years since administrators instructed U.C. San Diego to bring in more out-of-state students, the number of Chinese students enrolled at the Southern California university has seen a twelve-fold increase.

During the same period, the total number of Asian American students in the entire system decreased by just under 30 percent.

Tuition for in-state students is subsidized by the university (at least by a significantly higher degree than for other students) and can cost half to two-thirds as much as the rate for students hailing from outside the Golden State.

Last year, non-resident students brought some $80 million into U.C. Berkeley's coffers, up from $54 million the previous year.

The total number of out-of-state students has steadily increased in recent years. Students paying out-out-state tuition made up 14 percent total U.C. student body in 2011, 11 percent in 2010 and nine percent in 2009.

"The state is not a fully reliable partner in funding anymore," UCLA Provost Scott Waugh told Bloomberg. "If we're going to give California residents the education they want and deserve, we need non-Californians to help pay for it."

The most recent California state budget cut funding to the U.C. system by $650 million. These cuts also triggered a 9.6 percent tuition hike to be piled on top of another long-planned eight percent increase.

While this drop in the number of Asian Americans is significant, it hasn't been universal across the system. As a blogger at 8asians.com noted, "some of the numbers don't add up. Asian American enrollment at U.C. Berkeley from 2009 to 2010 dropped from 22 percent (a 314 student decline), Chinese student enrollment increased during the same time from 55 to 96. White enrollment dropped 29 percent."

This decrease in the number of Asian American students is soon to be followed by the implementation of another policy change that will likely further reduce their numbers from an all time of high of around 40 percent of total U.C. undergraduates only a few years ago.

The new policy, passed by the Board of Regents in 2009 and scheduled to go into effect later this year, ditches the requirement that all applicants take two SAT Subject Tests (formerly known at SAT II tests) and also reduce the number of students guaranteed admission to solely based on grades and test scores.

"I like to call it affirmative action for whites," said Ling-chi Wang, a retired U.C. Berkeley professor told USA Today."I think it's extremely unfair to Asian-Americans on the one hand and underrepresented minorities on the other."

An internal study found that this change alone could cut Asian American admissions by up to 20 percent.

The number of Asian Americans in the U.C. system increased rapidly during the 1990s after California voters passed Proposition 209, which barred all state universities from considering race in admissions. Conversely, the number of non-Asian minorities admitted plummeted. In 2009 alone, U.C. Berkeley saw a nearly 55 percent drop.

Nationwide, the number of students coming in from China has skyrocketed in recent years. In the 2010-11 academic year, one in five international students came from China.

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Moravecglobal
07:18 PM on 05/08/2012
There was a 43 percent jump in the number of affluent foreign and affluent out-of-state students accepted at University of California Berkeley. The more non-Californians admitted, the fewer qualified Californians can be.A shocking picture of inept University of California Berkeley senior management: fall admit rate for Californians drops to record low 18%.
In spite of eligibility Cal. Chancellor Birgeneau ($450.000 salary), Provost Breslauer ($306,000 salary) shed thousands of instate applicants. Qualified instate applicants to public Cal. are replaced by a $50,600 payment from born abroad affluent foreign and affluent out of state students. And, Birgeneau subsidizes affluent foreign and affluent out of state tuition in the guise of diversity while he doubles instate tuition/fees.

Birgeneau/Breslauer accept affluent $50,600 foreign students that displace qualified instate Californians (When depreciation of tax funded assets are included (as they should be), out of state and foreign tuition is more than $100,000 and does NOT subsidize instate tuition). Going to Cal. is now more expensive for instate students than Harvard, Yale.
10:40 PM on 01/08/2012
Ling Chi Wang is a retired professor of Asian American Studies at Berkeley. He is a member of the Asian Marxist left. He believes in racial preferences even though it harms Asians. He is a graduate of the Princeton Theological Seminary. Why does he not denounce Princeton for having a vast system of preferences including legacy preferences, racial preferences, preferences for the children of the wealthy and famous etc. and for having quotas against Asian Americans as evidenced by the Jian Li case?
11:21 AM on 01/10/2012
I meant " as evidenced by the Jian Li case. (without a question mark) ".
12:38 PM on 01/08/2012
I don't really mind that asians from china are coming over and going to the UC. I mind the hypocrisy of how they're complaining about it. A couple months ago they wanted to, and did stop a program that would consider race. Because it would help minorities, blacks and mexicans, so call take asian american spots. Now they're complaining and want something done about the people coming from China. You can't have it both ways.
10:23 PM on 01/08/2012
How is that hypocritical or wanting it "both ways"? While I'm an Asian-American who happens to support affirmative action programs, there's really nothing hypocritical about other Asian-Americans who oppose affirmative action for underrepresented minorities to also oppose policies that favor international students over American citizens. The source of opposition in both cases is due to the perception that Asian-Americans have to work harder than pretty much anyone else just to get in the same position, whether it be Caucasians, underrepresented minorities, or now international students from Asian countries.

I find it a little interesting that you seem to assume that "Asians from China" are the same as the Asian-American students who are "complaining about it". Asian-Americans are US citizens and are just as American as everyone else, and many of us have absolutely no real connection with any of the folks coming over from Asian countries.
02:43 AM on 01/09/2012
I may of worded it wrong, but i didn't assume they were the same. I said there were asian americans complaining about affirmative action. No where in that did I say they were the same. I And if you think about it minorites have to work harder to get into any program. You're assuming that underrepresented minorities don't have to work equally harder to get approved.
10:33 PM on 01/08/2012
And would you also like to complain about the foreign born blacks from Africa who take up most of the places in the Ivies reserved for racial preferences for blacks?
02:46 AM on 01/09/2012
Not complaining about either. I believe when everyone was complaining about affirmative action, the were saying it should be based on merit. Well these foreigners got in, I'm assuming based on merit, considering people outside of the country get a better primary to high school education than in it.
10:04 AM on 01/08/2012
"The state is not a fully reliable partner in funding anymore," UCLA Provost Scott Waugh told Bloomberg. "If we're going to give California residents the education they want and deserve, we need non-Californians to help pay for it."
With the universities filled with foreigners, there WONT be any positions left for Californians. But of course we can't tax the .1% to defray the costs of running the system. We are selling out our future because of our fear of uttering the "T" word.
06:51 AM on 01/08/2012
This is what happens when some loopy activists on the university board gets their way and implements their version of social engineering where the social promotion of the lesser qualified is being pushed at the expense of a traditionally quiet community. This underhanded "affirmative action" at UCAL and other US universities is being implemented by jigging the entry requirements. Political correctness gone mad.
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02:40 PM on 01/07/2012
In State students should get priority at any state supported university.
06:27 PM on 01/06/2012
Chinees are very ambitious and tenasious at their work. You will hardly ever see a Chinaman on welfare in the US. They are hard working people and very smart. Just hope they will use their education for peaceful careers if they go back to China or if they decide to live here in the US.
12:31 PM on 01/08/2012
My moms friends are chinese, she has several section 8 properties that she rents to relatives. She tells my mom all the time how she works the system. I think you're confused. There are plenty of chinese on welfare, using section 8, and other things. She also tells her family how to apply for section 8, and what to and what not to say.
01:27 PM on 01/08/2012
The brilliant Chinese aside, I also know this from second hand. Not only the Chinese, but there are other groups like the East Europeans and people from the middle-east who have a nice network of their people here who teach them (sometimes for a fee, if they don't know them personally) to help them use the system to the fullest, in some cases, using to their advantage, beating th system using the loopholes. This is fine as long as no law is broken. But this exists, to what scale and extent, I do not know. Matters when lots of hard working people are for months unable to find jobs or feed their families and young children.
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moonlightesq
02:47 PM on 01/06/2012
UC should increase the foreign student tuition to subsidize for its budget shortfall. The rich students from China can afford it.
02:46 AM on 01/06/2012
An over population of Chinese in China has caused competition for limited numbers of jobs and resources. As a western teacher living in China this is a common sight and attitude. Unfortunately high amounts of accepted cheating by students is also common. When many of these students create an increased portion ratio among students in America, I suspect that the cheating will follow by habit. How will these universities respond when they become alarmed by the high numbers of students needing to be expelled due to academic misconduct? Will they hold true to their standards or will they fudge the numbers to save the reputation of their institution? How long before we look back all of this and blame affirmative action and it's score card?
01:36 AM on 01/06/2012
@ David Madrid,

There is absolutely nothing wrong if Berkeley is 90 % Asian, what is wrong if Asian parents encourage their kids to study ( and there are plenty of poor Asian parents who do that )? If Madrid thinks there is something wrong with that , then he should encourage his own Latino parents or other Latino parents not to encourage their own children to study. Far more white and Latino people pay cable TV fees to watch the NBA which is dominated by blacks compared to black cable TV fee payers. Should we then demand tht the NBA reduce the number of black basketball players in its ranks?. If that sort of thing would happen , then nobody would watch NBA games on cable TV . That is the same exact analogy about the thesis that whites and latinos are the biggest funders of the UC system. The comments that were made was due to more fundamental reasons of jealousy and envy.
06:28 PM on 01/05/2012
On the topic-I think the UC's ought to be for Californian's first-then other Americans second. Do they not get enough applications from Americans-maybe Canadian and Mexicans?. Private schools can do what ever they want and accept 95% Chinese I suppose. Now off the topic- I think the UC's ought to require recommendations from teachers and counselors. Even better interview but that is most likely impractical. Checks and balances are important plus traits are revealed in recommendation that aren't in essays and stats. How do the schools distinguish between a grade and EC grind and someone who is passionate about learning? Students are also less likely to lie on their application. SAT and ACT can be increased through study especially when the students starts working on them at a relatively young age-I am not recommending that! What a sad waste of time. I have heard of students who start taking the SAT in the 7th, 8th or 9th grade or a least start taking practice test which is the same thing really. The PSAT is given in 10th or 11th grade. But the 10th grade test is just give students an idea what the test is about. The students at the UC's essentially write their own recommendations when they write their essays. .
05:57 PM on 01/05/2012
One problem with allowing Chinese students to go to uor top universities is that most will take their fancy educations back home with them instead of contributing to our society.
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moionfire
11:54 PM on 01/05/2012
They subsidize the education of americans since foreigners have to pay the full price without the subsidized loans.
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moonlightesq
01:44 PM on 01/06/2012
Why is that a problem? Would you rather that they stay here and compete for your job?
07:13 PM on 01/07/2012
Yes . I would like a brain drain of China resulting in their best and brightest coming here. Tthere is plenty of room at the top , it's the bottom that's crowded.
04:21 PM on 01/05/2012
I must have missed something... How is accepting Asian international students affirmation for whites?
06:30 PM on 01/06/2012
Chinees are not a manority. Look at how many of them are in this world let alone the US. They are a hard working people that you will hardly ever see taking advantage of our government. I think that their women are super HOT honeys.
12:33 PM on 01/08/2012
I think you're mistaken there, and this is just from experience. They're smart and know very well how to work the system for their family.
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03:49 PM on 01/05/2012
Whites are a disadvantage minority in California. They are about 40% of the population, and are way underrepresented in the university system they support with their tax dollars.
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moionfire
11:55 PM on 01/05/2012
Whites aren't disadvantaged. They just can't compete academically with Asian americans and Asian born people.
06:37 PM on 01/06/2012
And what man is considered a WHITE man? I think you are still living in the 1940s my friend.
01:13 AM on 01/06/2012
As mionfire said the fundamental reason with the decrease of whites in the UC system has both to do with preferences given to blacks Latinos and their inability to compete academically with with Asians on the average in high school. It is reflected in their average highs school GPA's and their SAT scores. That is is the reason as to why whites make up only 20 % of the entering 2011 freshman class of UC San Diego. And mionfire is absolutely correct about that.
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moionfire
07:29 PM on 01/07/2012
Very few spots are given to blacks and Latinos. Therefore the decrease in white enrollment has to do ONLY with white under-achievement relative to Asians.
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Moravecglobal
12:56 PM on 01/05/2012
All tax paying Californians subsidize the tuition of foreign & out of state students. Chancellor Robert J Birgeneau ($450,000 salary) has doubled instate tuition/fees while replacing Californians qualified for public UC Berkeley (UCB) with a $50,600 foreign student payment.

The need for transparency at Cal. has never been so clear. UCB, # 70 Forbes ranking, is not increasing enrollment. Birgeneau accepts $50,600 foreign students and displaces qualified instate Californians (When amortization of fixed assets funded by Californians are included in foreign and out of state tuition calculations, out of state and foreign tuition would be more than $100,000+ and would NOT subsidize instate tuition).

Californians must act: remove UC Berkeley Chancellor Robert J. Birgeneau.

More recently, the campus police that report to Chancellor Birgeneau deployed violent baton jabs on students protesting Birgeneau’s tuition increases. The sky will not fall when Birgeneau and his $450,000 salary are ousted.

Opinions make a difference; email UC Board of Regents marsha.kelman@ucop.edu
05:39 PM on 01/05/2012
The statre legislators , not ther UC regents, are responsible for cutting back the amount of money going to UC Berkeley so take it up with them.
01:54 AM on 01/06/2012
The entire state education system needs some serious examination. Last year (2011) we had no summer classes at the community college system in my city. WTF?
01:03 AM on 01/07/2012
It's almost as if the state is collapsing. Maybe you should make plans