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Organic Livestock: U.S. Veterinarians Not Trained To Treat Animals Without Antibiotics

By MICHAEL J. CRUMB   01/ 4/12 03:05 AM ET   AP

DES MOINES, Iowa -- The lack of chemicals used in organic production has created a challenge for farmers in caring for their animals: Few veterinarians are trained to treat livestock without antibiotics or other modern drugs.

The shortage of veterinarians trained in organic practices has become more noticeable as the industry has boomed.

There were about 3,350 organic livestock farms in 2007, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which counted segments of the organic industry for the first time that year and plans another count this year. The U.S. had 14,540 organic farms of all kinds in 2007, up more than 20 percent from 2002.

While no one tracks the number of veterinarians who treat organic livestock, experts agree it's a relatively small number nationwide. That's partly because organic agriculture, despite its growth, still accounts for relatively few farms.

"Unless you live in certain parts of the country, it is very much a niche market," said Gatz Riddell, a veterinarian and executive vice president of the American Association of Bovine Practitioners based in Auburn, Ala. "Only a minority of members have the mindset to work with organic producers because the vast majority is conventional production."

Riddell, whose group is comprised of veterinarians who specialize in treating cattle, said most vets probably encounter only one or two organic farms and "it's asking a lot of them to know actually two different ways of treating something."

It's also difficult to get subjects added to "already overflowing" veterinary curriculums, Riddell said. Iowa State University and some other schools now offer courses on alternative therapies, but the focus tends to be more on herbal and Chinese therapies, not necessarily organics, said Jim McKean, a veterinary professor at Iowa State University.

Mike Chaddock, deputy director of the Association of American Veterinary Colleges, said it's unlikely schools would offer a course just about organic treatments. Most veterinary schools in the U.S have a "one-health" curriculum in which students are taught "how their decisions affect the health of the animal, the health of human beings as recipients of food produced by the animal .... and impact nature and the environment."

There's also an issue of money. Few veterinarians focus on organic medicine because it's seen as difficult area for earning a living, McKean said.

"Organic producers talk to each other about things they have had success with and they develop a community of users that may or may not include veterinarians," he said.

Tony Azevedo, 60, who has about 800 dairy cows near Stevinson, Calif., said while it would be nice to have more veterinarians who practice organic medicine, there's less demand for their services because animals raised organically tend to be healthier.

"You have to understand, once you put animals back in their natural state or pasturing, you've eliminated 98 percent of ailments conventional farmers have," Azevedo said.

One example he cited is a displaced abdomen, which Azevedo said results from being overfed. Organic animals tend to eat less than those raised conventionally, he said.

Animals raised outside also have fewer stress-related ailments than those kept on concrete or hooked up to machines, he said.

But McKean said organic practices have their own health risks. For example, animals kept in a pasture are more likely to encounter disease-carrying wildlife and can be more at risk for parasitic diseases, such as trichinosis or toxoplasma, he said.

"Both of those have largely been removed by moving swine indoors into confinement operations," McKean said.

He also criticized what he described as reluctance among organic farmers to seek medical treatment.

Organic regulations bar farmers from withholding antibiotics from sick animals just to retain their organic certification. But once animals receive antibiotics or hormones, they must be removed from the organic herd. Meat from a cow, for example, could then be sold as conventional beef, but at a much lower price.

"One of my issues with the organic livestock movement is that because of the increased value of the organic animal versus those that have been treated for diseases, is they put off treatment of diseases for an extended period of time," McKean said, adding that he believes the delay can cause unnecessary suffering.

Pennsylvania veterinarian Hubert Karreman, who mainly treats organic dairy cows, said when he began looking for ways to help them without antibiotics, he found many answers in veterinary textbooks used before the advent of antibiotics, which were first prescribed in the 1930s.

"What they were using back there were biologics and botanicals," he said. Biologics are made from human and animal proteins and designed to treat and prevent diseases like arthritis and psoriasis, among others. Botanical treatments are made from plants.

"I just think veterinarians aren't aware of some of the alternatives out there," Karreman said.

But he also agreed with Azevedo that organic farms tend to need fewer vet services.

"Calves that are on nursed cows, running with their moms, they are the picture of health compared to calves being fed bottles of milk replacer and on an accelerated weaning process," Karreman said.

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Andrew Gunther
Keeping science real!
03:10 PM on 01/07/2012
Real organic farms shouldn't need treatments, if they plan for positive health many other countries have figured that out. Its the system design that makes animals sick! Then guess what how about we just treat the sick ones! You cannot farm conventionally without conventional supports Organics is so much more than No Antibiotics!
01:04 PM on 01/06/2012
Organic farming is a hype in order to sell more meat. And those eggs with the red dots....the chickens who lay them are still chickens and the eggs are still animal byproducts.

When it comes to things humans like and want, they will buy into anything that justifies it.
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Parkite
Still haven't found what I'm looking for
02:17 PM on 01/20/2012
Eggs, chickens, & grass-fed, pastured beef all taste better than conventional products. Unfortunately, big producers have moved into the "organic" market. Chicken & eggs that are just "organic" do taste pretty much like conventional chicken & eggs. Thy need to be really free range, pastured for their to be a difference.
05:09 PM on 01/20/2012
The factory farmers aren't going to spend that much money on land for the number of animals they raise per year. They want quick results in mass production for as little cost as possible.
11:48 PM on 01/04/2012
I grew up on a dairy farm outside of Minneapolis during the thirties and forties. We rarely lost a cow and my dad treated his sick animals without antibiotics. The veterinarian came in some cases and had many forms of healing and used them generally with success.

As a human, I have been treating myself with forms of holistic healing for decades after being overdosed with the antibiotic Bactrum in 1984 which caused a permanent overgrowth of yeast (candidiasis). Staying away from antibiotics, I have been successful enough to have just passed the ripe old age of 75. We must look to non-allopathic methods for us all - animal and human.
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HazelPethigFan
I don't know until I know
09:52 PM on 01/04/2012
Let me get this straight..according to organic fans antibiotics are ok for people but not animals.

Right...uhuh. makes perfect sense.
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sabelmouse
i love to tumble , ask me why .
08:54 AM on 01/05/2012
a you're wrong and b there is still a difference between using the stuff in dire need and using it for every little sniffle.
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10:13 AM on 01/05/2012
Commercial meat producers use antibiotics as feed additives which is totally different that treating a disease. Do you take you daily antibiotic pill every morning?
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Deep Thinking Man
Always Remember, A Wet Bird Never Flies At Night !
08:54 PM on 01/04/2012
how do you suppose animals were medically treated before anti-biotics ???...or any other chemicals...for that matter ????
12:23 PM on 01/05/2012
Good question. In that day and age, the farmed animals lived more like God intended them to live. They actually got to walk on grass, see sunshine, and feel rain. Dairy cows went to the barn to be milked in the AM, turned out to pasture, came back to be miked in th PM, and turned out again. You didn't have farmers that raised multiple thousands of animals at a time in very small areas and in permanent confinement. Todays animals, cows, pigs, chickens and other fowl, are crammed inside buildings, basically literally living on top of one another. The filth from all the urine, feces, and just living too close causes much sickness, ie, pneumonia and other diseases that spread easily. That's why they have to be given antibiotics daily. They're also given growth hormones so they grow faster, gives them less chance to get sick and die, and the farmers can get their money quicker w/o waiting longer for the animals to grow normally, which costs them additional money. Even though these preventitive antibiotics and growth hormone hurt the public who ends up eating those medicated animals, the FDA and USDA approves this b/c it helps the animal farmers mass produce meat. The animal farming industry is another long time, big, and very influential industry.

But as I said earlier, if an animal gets sick or injured, they are usually just killed.
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Deep Thinking Man
Always Remember, A Wet Bird Never Flies At Night !
07:01 PM on 01/05/2012
Dairy cows went to the barn to be milked in the AM, turned out to pasture, came back to be miked in th PM, and turned out again.

KAPB...you're right...the samer applied to all other farm animals also...to me...the technique being used now is also due to greed !!!!!!
Oginikwe
I think therefore I'm dangerous
01:23 AM on 01/07/2012
I have no reply box below so I am replying up here. :)

You are correct--we are not factory farmers. We got into farming because of the factory farms. We just won't risk eating their food anymore.
06:56 PM on 01/04/2012
It seems there should be a distinction between animals who need to receive antiobiotics to treat an illness as opposed to the practice off feeding wholesale antiobiotic-laced feed to factory farmed meat animals.
01:16 PM on 01/06/2012
If they did that, the farmers would lose all their meat-for-market b/c the animals share their illnesses and too many die. The antibiotics are used to try to prevent the animals from getting sick in the first place bc it's inevitable that they will get sick based on their horrible living conditions.

I really wish more people would get out and meet their meat so they'd be better educated in knowing what they're putting on their plates..
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pepper1311
POGS are dirt
06:42 PM on 01/04/2012
I have doing this for more years then most alive, vets are needed for preventive care, just like people need preventive care. Anamils raised organic can be given medication when needed.
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HazelPethigFan
I don't know until I know
09:57 PM on 01/04/2012
Animals can be given medication but must be removed from the organic herd. Organics want perfection and are ideologically pure. Weakness in anything is not allowed.
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pepper1311
POGS are dirt
02:33 AM on 01/05/2012
I have only been doing this for 50+ years and organics can recieve medications, there is no purity test.
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10:16 AM on 01/05/2012
What are you talking about? Have you been in a commercial poultry or swine feeder operation when they come in and cull the weak, sick, canabalized animals? It is quite impressive to see. Have you seen producers doing everything possible to get a down cow up to ship because they don't get as much money for a down cow as for one that can walk up the slaughter chute?
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peacekitten
primum non nocere.
05:17 PM on 01/04/2012
thanks for establishing an unquestionable bias AGAINST the welfare and consideration of the other sentient beings that inhabit the earth.
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peacekitten
primum non nocere.
05:17 PM on 01/04/2012
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04:20 PM on 01/04/2012
Are you sure you can't use antibiotics to make them well?
That, versus using antibiotics to make them give more milk or get heavier or allowing them to be
packed in spots so tight they can't move.
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pepper1311
POGS are dirt
06:44 PM on 01/04/2012
You can use medication for illness. Our anamils are like family and are treated when I'll. Organic does not mean Seventh Day Adventist.
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HazelPethigFan
I don't know until I know
10:02 PM on 01/04/2012
No....any animals given antibiotics for illness are not considered organic anymore. This is a purists game here. Weakness is not allowed in any animal.
04:15 PM on 01/04/2012
Isn't this rather a moot point? Animal farmers, 'regular' or 'organic' don't typically spend money on treating livestock raised for market anyway unless the animal is an expensive prized breeding animal. By law, food source animals can't be treated with the same medications as animals that are considered pets or otherwise nonfood source b/c they don't want the various medications going into the 'food'. It's commonly considered to be more economical just to kill sick farmed animals than to spend money on a vet.
01:22 PM on 01/06/2012
And, yet again, that's backwards due to the fact that factory farmed animals are so laced with antibiotics anyway, so people still get the medications. When I mentioned treating prized animals above, those animals aren't kept with the thousands of market animals, and, until such time when the 'prize' is worn out, then he/she goes to market along with the rest of them.
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Parkite
Still haven't found what I'm looking for
02:30 PM on 01/20/2012
I don't know where you are getting your information. CAFO animals are routinely given antibiotics in the feed. 80% of the antibiotics in this country are given to animals routinely. The reason there have been calls for stopping this routine practice, is because MRSA infections in humans are becoming more prevalent and it is thought that the routine use in livestock is the reason.
05:02 PM on 01/20/2012
I understand there is antibiotics in the feed. With factory farming and the animals being in suce crowed living quarters, they would all get sick and die if they didn't give them antibiotics to try and keep them from getting sick.

I am referring to each individual animal. Unless it's a very expensive animal, they typically don't treat them.

From the vet's side, it would be risky to give certain medications to food source animals. The vet would have to depend on the farmer to separate that animal and wait the appropriate time before sending the animal to market.

On the farmers side, they usually won't take the time to treat individual animals like that. They might not have additional space to keep infected or otherwise sick animals separated from the others.
02:51 PM on 01/04/2012
I remember going to a sheep farm in vet school and we were not allowed to go anywhere near the organically raised lambs. There were a group of them that were sick, but we weren't permitted to even look at them! That still taints my ideas about organically raised animals. Is it better to let them suffer without a medication that could alleviate their suffering?
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peacekitten
primum non nocere.
05:16 PM on 01/04/2012
the laws cited in the article that prohibit withholding such treatment from a being in need must be strictly enforced.  it's possible that the farmer that owned those lambs may have been treating them with alternative therapies.  if he weren't then he should have been punished, and the animals confiscated to a safe place that would see to their welfare.

even so, their suffering is but a pale shadow compared to the unmitigated barbarity of factory farming.  that is a practice that must be abolished on every level.  there is no defense of it in any form.
01:27 PM on 01/06/2012
In another world, but not in this one b/c there are little to no protection laws for farmed animals, and what laws there are, are rarely inforced. That's why most offenders of farmed animal abuse are never caught until someone sneaks in and gets the abuse on tape.
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01:51 AM on 01/07/2012
Organic farmers don't let their animals suffer, if a non organic medication is needed, it is given, and sold, for money, to help keep the farm in business.
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pepper1311
POGS are dirt
06:50 PM on 01/04/2012
To be certified organic does not mean lack of treatment for illness. I have been doing this for over 50 years and we treat all sick animals, like we would are children. Now I know many Amish and they abuse all animals and never treat any of them.
02:06 PM on 01/04/2012
farmers and vet could contact their certification bodies for help.