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Ron Paul Iowa Caucus Results 2012 Keep Him In Race

01/04/12 07:15 AM ET  AP

WASHINGTON -- Texas Congressman Ron Paul says he's happy with his "good showing" in Iowa, where he finished third in the Republican presidential caucuses.

The Republican with a libertarian bent tells NBC's "Today" show he felt it was a sound performance, and "it's doing very well to be in the money" and getting an opportunity to go into New Hampshire.

Paul seeks to distinguish his brand of conservatism with "neo-conservatism," saying he doesn't understand why "some conservatives think that the more money you spend overseas, the more conservative you are."

Paul has been speaking sharply about reducing the American profile in the world, saying it needs to be less interventionist. He says he can be a significant factor in this year's election campaign because his candidacy has attracted many young voters.

Asked in a CNN interview about assertions by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich that his foreign policy views are isolationist and dangerous, Paul called that laughable.

Paul said he never votes for spending that the country cannot afford, opposes tax increases and opposes unwise military interventions and doesn't understand how Gingrich can call him dangerous.

The Texan said that when Gingrich was called to military service in the Vietnam era, "he chickened out on that ... so who's the danger to the country."

"So Newt Gingrich has no business talking about danger because he's putting that others in danger," Paul said. He said some people call Gingrich's brand of politics "chicken-hawk."

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01:55 AM on 01/05/2012
Paul wants to stop the oil wars and that's enough for me. Paul 2012!
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maninal2
Without knowledge action is useless
06:15 PM on 01/05/2012
Single issue neophyte voter... the primary problem with America today....
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ShinjiIkari
Do you understand how stupid it is to be afraid?
09:07 PM on 01/05/2012
Then you would have voted for Al Gore in 2000, eh?
12:53 AM on 01/05/2012
Geez, we've become an idiocracy.
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maninal2
Without knowledge action is useless
06:15 PM on 01/05/2012
As evidenced by each clown that rolls out of the GOP car
08:38 PM on 01/05/2012
DEMGOPS,there is no difference. Clowns all around.
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biznesschic
10:37 PM on 01/04/2012
So let me get this straight. The guy who is an expert delivering babies, wants to return to the gold standard, a system that is based on a country who possesses a limited resource rules, than a country, who base its currency on demand? And you guys are proud to follow this train of thought?y
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chichora123
11:38 PM on 01/04/2012
"And you guys are proud to follow this train of thought?"

This assumes that you have any train of thought in Economics.

Oh. Wait a minute. I know your train... the train that leads to a 2-bit economics degree earned through rote learning.
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maninal2
Without knowledge action is useless
06:16 PM on 01/05/2012
Explain how we'd fare if we returned to the gold standard.. what's our current level of holdings?

I'm sure you know that Paul has invested heavily in gold mining.
reciprocat
On November 6, 2012...God blessed America
01:16 AM on 01/05/2012
More info please.
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biznesschic
09:55 PM on 01/04/2012
Listen up Paulies. I have a poster, that think it is cool, to call the police to remove a black patron when he doesn't want to serve black people, when that very police force is paid by that black patron. Sense of entitlement?
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chichora123
09:51 PM on 01/04/2012
businesschic:

Do us a favor and lay down economics. Step away from the subject you know nothing about.
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biznesschic
10:06 PM on 01/04/2012
Dr Paul is an OBGYN. For you to follow him on fiscal policy, says more about you, not him.
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chichora123
10:10 PM on 01/04/2012
Ron Paul is an Economics expert who regularly crushed Fed Reserve Chairmen the last 20 years. Come back when you have any clue on Economics.
mistergg69
obama 2012
09:40 PM on 01/04/2012
Ron Paul is 76...toooooooooooooooooooooo old for POTUS
OBAMA 2012
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biznesschic
09:35 PM on 01/04/2012
Ha, now an OBGYN, is an expert on monetary policy. He wants the gold standard, as if this nation was back in to 1850's. Global competition made that impossible, and those who follow that logic, still believes that market conditions would have eventually ended slavery.
09:47 PM on 01/04/2012
If you had any understanding of monetary history in this country you would also come to realize that the longest period of the most stable prices we ever had was from the mid 1830's thru 1914, while under the gold standard except for a brief period when we were on the greenbacks during and just after the Civil War. Since 1914, the $US dollar has lost nearly 97% of its value.

And you obviously are not familiar with his platform. Regarding monetary policy he has 2 bills to 1) provide regular full audits of the Federal Reserve so the public is fully informed on how their currency is being manipulated, 2) legalize competing currencies by repealing legal tender laws
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biznesschic
10:00 PM on 01/04/2012
The 1930s to 1914? 50 years of that, you had free labor from black people.
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maninal2
Without knowledge action is useless
06:19 PM on 01/05/2012
Legalize competing currencies would be a disaster. Say no more about Paul's lack of economic understanding.
09:48 PM on 01/04/2012
He got schooled by the best, Obamba got schooled by Goldman.
09:35 PM on 01/04/2012
Ron Paul is wrong on so many levels as is his GOTP candidates with their anti gay pro life,
'neglecting the poor and middle class..........never taxing the rich....
Wake up Ron Paul 9/11 did happen. There still are terroists out there......Your delusions of no wars should have be spoken earlier to BUSH! Our President captured and killed BIN LADEN

He will continue to keep us safe.........OBAMA 2012
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biznesschic
09:08 PM on 01/04/2012
Lessons to Ron Paul Supporters:

Sometimes war is necessary. When people bomb bases in Hawaii, or run planes into buildings, a strong leader knows the difference.

A person doesn't have to bomb black churches, to be considered racist. Opposing those who fought for civil rights, goes against the constitution, just as the American Revelation.

Admit that Dr. Paul delivers babies, and is not an expert on the American monetary system. I have an MBA, and will quickly defer to Paul about my third trimester of pregnancy, not on how to run the federal reserve.

Stop excusing his racist views, for the things he gets right. We went through that during the 1930's. It can only lead to disaster.
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chichora123
09:41 PM on 01/04/2012
Lessons to you ( the clueless on Economics )

- Ron Paul voted for the authorization to go after Bin laden. Ron Paul said United States was justified in responding to Pearl Harbor. Ron Paul said he would go to war when the congress declares it. He would fight the war with FULL FORCE of America ( Nuke weapons if needed?). Finish it. And come back home.

- You lying on Ron Paul's position on civil rights acts. This whole question on Civil Rights is brought up by the media. NOT by Ron paul. Ron Paul is in favor of almost all except the one provision in the entire civil rights act where it infringes on private business. Ron Paul is NOT proposing on bringing civil rights act to congress now.

- Ron Paul is so much qualified on Economics....all the Fed reserve chairmans since are not even eligible to drink his bath water. Ron Paul regularly said to Alan Greenspan's face before dot com crash, before housing crash how wrong their policies were. September 2001, in 2003, in 2005 Ron Paul gave several speeches on house floor about bonds, interest rates, housing prices, commodity prices, you name it. In vivid detail. Oh on derivates, GSEs too. Extremely vivid detail. Again, when talking about Ron Paul you need to realize that you are talking about a man who debated with Federal reserve governer Mr.Charles Partee in 1983.

Go develop some more mental comprehension.
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biznesschic
09:47 PM on 01/04/2012
So ask Mr. Paul if a white business owner can deny serving a black soldier a hamburger?
08:54 AM on 01/05/2012
Excellent rebuttal to these ridiculous smears! Keep up the fight!
Ron Paul 2012!
10:50 PM on 01/04/2012
"Sometimes war is necessary. When people bomb bases in Hawaii, or run planes into buildings, a strong leader knows the difference."

War against whom? The majority of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis; why haven't we invaded and occupied Saudi Arabia? They are not democratic; they are an absolute monarchy ruled by the House of Saud.

"A person doesn't have to bomb black churches, to be considered racist. Opposing those who fought for civil rights, goes against the constituti­on, just as the American Revelation."

Paul's heroes include Martin Luther King, Jr. and Rosa Parks. Paul was the only member of Congress willing to put up his own money to pay for a medal for Parks.

"Admit that Dr. Paul delivers babies, and is not an expert on the American monetary system. I have an MBA, and will quickly defer to Paul about my third trimester of pregnancy, not on how to run the federal reserve."

An MBA doesn't make you an expert on the American monetary system.

"Stop excusing his racist views, for the things he gets right. We went through that during the 1930's. It can only lead to disaster."

Paul views people as individuals, not as members of groups. When you do that, you cannot be racist.
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maninal2
Without knowledge action is useless
06:21 PM on 01/05/2012
"Paul views people as individual­s, not as members of groups. When you do that, you cannot be racist. "

So easily said from beneath the sheet
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08:20 PM on 01/04/2012
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Do you understand his position on the CRA and the one provision in the act he called into question? Your argument is analogous to those calling others "unpatriot­ic" for not providing unqualifie­d support for the Patriot Act. He adamantly supported the repeal of all Jim Crow laws in the bill.

Your not making any argument, rather just repetitive­ly stating a candidate'­s position and that, in and of itself, is inherently wrong. That's dismissive and intellectu­al cowardice.

He never ignored the act, rather argued it never met it's ultimate aim.
Read for yourself: http://www­.ronpaul.c­om/on-the-­issues/civ­il-rights-­act/

I'd also suggest reading a bit from Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell who offer a different perspectiv­e as African Americans.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------This guy is actually defending the right o thef business owner, who, without the taxes paid by ordinary citizens, who may happen to be black, have the right to discriminate against those very tax payer who enables the business owner to profit. Madness.
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08:33 PM on 01/04/2012
The problem is simple. If Paul had his way and the CRA did not cover private businesses, we would still have segregated restaurants, hotels, busses, and other public accomodations, which, by the way, all benefit from our publicly funded infrastrlucture. We'd be decades behind in race relations. Unfortunately, sometimes, when its an issue of securing equality of opportunity, you just have to force people to act morally. And if Libertarians don't grasp that, that's just one more bit of evidence that they are pure Utopians, happy to disregard any facts that contradict their golden glowing visions.
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biznesschic
08:51 PM on 01/04/2012
Can I give you #70?
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chichora123
09:57 PM on 01/04/2012
I am a young brown man and I did notice that some white waiters were not so friendly with me in some restaurants I visited. Can you guarantee me they did not malign my food before serving me.

I can guarantee one thing to you though....I never went back to those restaurants ever again. Racist establishments are simply bad business.
09:25 PM on 01/04/2012
That was my comment. And where did I defend the right to discriminate? Huh?? Show me where I actually said that. Personally, I disagree with Paul on this position. But I don't engage in this swarmy infantile race baiting and strawman attacks that only goes to prove your complete lack of intellectual depth or courage. And just for fun... now I'm going to argue against the bill:

1. The most pervasive forms of segregation/discrimination was perpetuated by government and government laws. All provisions in the bill, except one, were repealing bad government laws (ie Jim Crow laws). There is no reasonable person who would argue with that portion of the bill.
2. The private sector was already making more inroads in social equality esp in the Entertainment and Sports industries. The percentage of blacks employed as managers/administrators was the same in 1967 as it was in 1960. The number of blacks in professional and technical positions more than doubled from the mid '50's - '60's. Black employment in technical and professional jobs was increasing at a faster rate in the 1 year prior to passage of the CRA compared to the 2 years after it was passed. Chinese and Japanese Americans, who were placed in internment camps during WWII were earning a higher average per capita income than whites just 20 years after. Hispanics showed similar trends of upward mobility prior to the CRA.

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biznesschic
09:37 PM on 01/04/2012
There is a saying. What do you call a black man with a PHD? A N---ger. That was the mindset, and no amount of wishing it away makes it better.
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BlackJAC
It's better to be a black king than a white knight
07:36 PM on 01/04/2012
Drafted rear-area people such as yourself don't get to use the chickenhawk card, Ronny.
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lunarsnare
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07:10 PM on 01/04/2012
@ ErCorner
Apropos all this raccist stuff they try to blow at Ron Paul like confetti .
It got me thinking and especially after reading Obama’s  book  “Dream of my father”

Obama is half black and half white and really has no blood to heritage to the African American history and plight.
Yet he felt compelled to choose one side where he felt he belonged and dismiss the other.
Would that not be indicative of attitude?
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biznesschic
07:16 PM on 01/04/2012
He chose where he belong, because if he was Obama the janitor, you guys would see him as an average black guy.
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lunarsnare
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07:23 PM on 01/04/2012
cancel please
Thanks
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07:28 PM on 01/04/2012
Biznesschic, you appear to have a serious chip on your shoulder about race, but when someone seeks to have a measured adult conversation about race, you come all unraveled just the same.
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EdCorner
Now what - more of the same...
07:25 PM on 01/04/2012
He chose the Wall Street side - that's pretty obvious by who he surrounds himself with. I guess money is color blind, and he feels safest there with the elite. But that's not who I elected. I thought I elected a black man and a democrat - but it appears I didn't.

But yes, we all feel it at one time or another and no one is perfect. It's unfortunate but it's part of the human condition. There is no reason to crucify anyone that wasn't perfect in these matters in the past. Paul and Obama included. We have to get past this, but some won't let us - and that is the real shame.

I'm out, have a good rest of the evening - I enjoyed ALL the posts today.
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lunarsnare
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07:32 PM on 01/04/2012
Good post
Focusing on what counts
Good night Ed
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biznesschic
07:37 PM on 01/04/2012
Uh Bush bailed out Wall Street, with no strings attached.
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biznesschic
07:05 PM on 01/04/2012
Ole Ron wants to go back to the gold standard, a natural resource which can't meet demand. Brilliant.
07:28 PM on 01/04/2012
Ron's position isn't to immediatly go back to a gold standard
His position is to legalize competing currencies as a guard against inflationary spending by the federal government
Inflationary spending is a de facto tax on the poor

I'll use QE 2 as an example. The federal reserve sought to purchase a total of $900 billion in US Treasury debt over a period of 8 months. Roughly $110 billion of newly created money flooded into commodity markets monthly

The price of cotton went up more than 170% during this period oil is up over 40%, and many categories of food staples are seeing double-digit price growth. This means that food, clothing, and gasoline will become increasingly expensive over the coming year. American families, many of whom already live paycheck to paycheck, increasingly will be forced by these rising prices into unwilling tradeoffs: purchasing ground beef rather than steak, drinking water rather than milk, and choosing canned vegetables over fresh in order to keep food on the table and pay the heating bill. Frugality can be a good thing, but only when it is by choice and not forced upon the citizenry by the Fed's ruinous monetary policy.

Inflationary spending hurts the poor the most and benefits government and the big corporations who get handouts from government

Competing currencies allows there to be a transparent guard against this

Ron Paul 2012!!!
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biznesschic
07:33 PM on 01/04/2012
Ron Paul has no clue on how a monetary system is actually run. I have the analogy of 3 guys stranded on a desert island. One has 1 mil, the other jewels and clothing, and one has water. Who is more valuable. They guy with water, and will ration it based on demand. That is what the function of the federal reserve, and it is foolish to think otherwise.

The Gold standard gave us the gilded age, whereas, those who had the gold, ruled. Who has all the gold? Saudi Arabia. A country must be able to monitor its money supply, based on demand.
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biznesschic
06:55 PM on 01/04/2012
You don't know the answer, just admit it - it's no reason to demean someone if you don't know
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Once again. Money is only what someone will give you for it. It could be bread, stones, or actual printed dollars.

You have a line of people anxious to receive your dollars. When you have a long line, you print more, and charge a higher rate of interest. When the line is shorter, you print less and charge a lower rate of interest. That is the function of the federal reserve and the concept is taught at any second rate junior college, in which obviously, you did not invest in.
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EdCorner
Now what - more of the same...
06:57 PM on 01/04/2012
Nope, sorry - you still don't get it.
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biznesschic
07:01 PM on 01/04/2012
Then save you money, don't even go to the junior college, and remain clueless.
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EdCorner
Now what - more of the same...
07:01 PM on 01/04/2012
What I mean is - you still don't understand my answer to your question. But that's ok, carry on
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biznesschic
07:12 PM on 01/04/2012
You didn't answer, because you are relying on a guy, who has not clue on how an economy actually functions.
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biznesschic
06:50 PM on 01/04/2012
More that I have learned for Ron Paul supporters:

Posing with a Grand wizard is not racist, but relying that whites were cruel to black people in history, is.

FEMA is unconstitutional, until Ron Paul needs to be rescued off his roof in Texas.
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BlackJAC
It's better to be a black king than a white knight
07:38 PM on 01/04/2012
Being drafted into a rear-area position qualifies Ron Paul to make military decisions, such as completely recalling all forces from overseas.
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chichora123
07:53 PM on 01/04/2012
Ahhh...I suppose DraftDodging neocons have a better qualification on making military decisions
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biznesschic
08:05 PM on 01/04/2012
Both of my brothers were drafted. One is an engineer, the other a medical doctor. So your point is?