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Victims' Group Refuses To Turn Over Names In Abuse Suit

Snap Will Not Release Records

First Posted: 01/04/12 05:51 PM ET Updated: 01/04/12 05:51 PM ET

By Tim Townsend
St. Louis Post-Dispatch

ST. LOUIS (RNS) The director of a leading victims' advocacy group refused to answer some questions or turn over documents in a deposition held Monday (Jan. 2) in a Kansas City, Mo., clergy abuse case.

David Clohessy, who directs the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP) from St. Louis, said in a statement that attorneys for an accused Kansas City priest had requested "hundreds or thousands of pages of SNAP records involving victims and others across the country going back some 23 years."

Several courts, including the Missouri Supreme Court, had rejected Clohessy's request to quash the deposition subpoena. Clohessy's lawyers argued that forcing Clohessy to testify could result in disclosing confidential information from victims of clergy sexual abuse, members of the organization and journalists.

But after the state supreme court declined to intervene, Clohessy was forced to testify, even as he refused to turn over certain documents.

In a statement, SNAP called the subpoena "an unprecedented, bullying maneuver designed to protect child molesters and silence victims" and "a new low in church hardball tactics."

Attorneys who work with abuse victims said compelling such testimony would betray the trust of abuse victims and introduce a chilling effect for those who have yet to come forward.

"It would severely damage SNAP's ability to provide support for victims if victims aren't able to come forward to speak in confidence," said Ken Chackes, an attorney not involved in the case whose firm represents plaintiffs in most clergy sexual abuse cases in St. Louis.

Clohessy was drawn into the case after attorneys for the Kansas City priest, the Rev. Michael Tierney, accused the alleged victim's lawyers of violating a gag order by providing Clohessy information that he then released to the news media in a press release.

Clohessy's attorney had promised that, if forced to testify, he would withhold details about abuse victims his organization has worked with.

"We will refuse to provide the information we believe is confidential," said SNAP attorney Jeffrey Jensen. "We will refuse to provide any information that would identify victims of sexual abuse, or that identifies SNAP members or supporters, in order to protect their confidentiality."

The Missouri Press Association joined the move to quash the subpoena, on the grounds that it could force Clohessy's organization to reveal previously confidential correspondence with journalists.

"The Press Association believes the judge's order is overly broad ... and will interfere with reporters' First Amendment right to gather information for news stories," said Jean Maneke, and attorney for the press association.

Tierney's attorney, Brian Madden, could not be reached for comment.

Tierney is accused of molesting a 13-year-old Missouri boy in 1971. Kansas City-St. Joseph Bishop Robert Finn removed Tierney from active ministry last June after a diocesan review board found the allegations against the priest credible.

Tim Townsend writes for The St. Louis Post-Dispatch in St. Louis, Mo.

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Eric Graff
All LIBERAL ALL THE LIBERAL TIME
03:48 PM on 01/06/2012
The victims need to sue the "church" right outta here............................
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BlackYowe
I am a classical- liberal woman and a Jeweler.
07:47 PM on 01/05/2012
I think the RC church may have signed its own death warrant in the USA for its lack of compassion for the victims and its gross negligence in confronting the problem.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
04:39 PM on 01/05/2012
SNAP vs RICO: round N.
04:04 PM on 01/05/2012
I urge everyone to support SNAP and its work. It is the voice of truth crying in the wilderness.
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Robert Frano
Religio_Intolerance cost 359 coworkers! (11.09.01)
03:38 PM on 01/05/2012
Re: "Several courts, including the Missouri Supreme Court, had rejected Clohessy's request to quash the deposition subpoena..."

The Catholic church has gone out of Its way in refusing to name clergy, living & dead, in holy orders/laicized, in jail/on parole, and of course, STD-statistics relating to clergy during thousands of court actions; They've kept these identites secreat as if they were the 'go' signal for nuclear Armegeddon...

...Yet, they demand to know who the complainants are?
That's...Amusing, NOT!

Do they realize the easiest way to avoid embarrassing headlines, like the recent California bishop's admission, (...that he has ‘2 crotch fruit', harvested, with-a-woman-not-his-wife), is to address the ‘12Th.-century’ world-view?

Are they aware that eventually, (...the next 30-40 years), the few clergy left, (not under one-or-more of the circumstances noted above), will be older than Jurassic Park's ‘T-Rex’?

Horny-old-Ratzinger is already wheeled ‘round St. Peter’s Massed on a dolly, like some (vampiritic-impersonating) scream-fest-villain; is that a 'goal' of the late, great Catholic church?
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freethnkr88
no chance without FSM
01:51 PM on 01/05/2012
honestly I'm done trying to defend Catholics. I see them fund this pedophile organization every week without bothering to think about reforming such a corrupt institution.
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stloocardsfan
Tolerance ≠ Acceptance
03:23 PM on 01/05/2012
The Church has worked tirelessly in the past decade to establish itself as the safest environment possible for children. Is every system perfect? Of course not. However, the Church’s screening procedures, protocols, and “review panels” are unparalleled in the United States for an organization of its size.

Far too many media venues continue to portray the Catholic Church as an insensitive cabal that is callous regarding the welfare of children. That is not only unfair, but untrue.
04:05 PM on 01/05/2012
Answer one question--did or did not the heirarchy of the catholic church for decades cover up the abuse of children by priests?

The catholic church has been PROVEN to be "an insensitive cabal that is callous regarding the welfare of children."

Do you actually think we believe the "that was then, this is now" BS?
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
04:40 PM on 01/05/2012
I'm eating into my emergency reserve of `too gullible to live' flags.
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DevonTexas
Eternal Optimism
12:33 PM on 01/05/2012
"In a statement, SNAP called the subpoena "an unprecedented, bullying maneuver designed to protect child molesters and silence victims" and "a new low in church hardball tactics."

Sure looks that way to me.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
04:41 PM on 01/05/2012
It's what mobsters do. It's just the way they roll.
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pattio66
I'm here!!!
08:07 AM on 01/05/2012
I'm all for not publishing victim's names in the press, but the accused has a right to face his or her accuser in court. SNAP has to know this.
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roy brophy
Dyslexic F. O. "Sorry!"
10:23 AM on 01/05/2012
This was abou a gag order, it had nothing to do with the facts of the case, It's just the Catholic Church trying to cover-up for another child molesing Priest
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xenubarb
Nebulon V
11:38 AM on 01/05/2012
"...requested "hundreds or thousands of pages of SNAP records involving victims and others across the country going back some 23 years."

Does that sound like facing an accuser in court, or a fishing expedition?
07:31 AM on 01/05/2012
Just pointing out that not all of the people SNAP villianizes are actually guilty, and an apology after they mess up would show maturity. Guess that is too much for today's society.
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Robert Frano
Religio_Intolerance cost 359 coworkers! (11.09.01)
04:10 PM on 01/05/2012
Re: "Just pointing out that not all of the people SNAP villianize­s are actually guilty, etc." {Jennifercp}

Normally I attempt to avoid ‘guilt-by-association’...
…A WW-2 German-soldier doesn’t have the same culpability-level as Hitler.
A ‘Desert-Stormer’ or ‘Operation-Iraqi-freedom’ numbskull has less criminal-guilt than a ‘Bush’, a ‘Blair’, Condi-S-leeza, Chaney, Bin Ladin, Mullah Omar, etc. The people so-involved are guilty to the level of their involvement...

In Rome's case, we have a LARGE group of 'adults', (I heard somewhere: 400,000 clergy; www.bishopacountability.org?), who assist each other’s heinous crimes AND in avoiding criminal liability!

There is an additional issue:
The ONLY thing any cleric has is his/her/their reputations...Clint Eastwood has his S&W-29; The Terminator, his .45 Long-Slide;
…All a cleric has is his/her beliefs-&-behaviors…There IS group-responsibility!
If you didn’t touch that child, but you KNEW that monsignor so-&-so / Cardinal such-&-such DID, and YOU didn’t IMMEDIETLY call 911, (as in the case of St. Louis’s Robert J Flynn…a bishop on probation for the 2nd. time!), you’ve committed criminal-facilitation!

Bishop Flynn’s ‘mea-culpa’: he “didn’t-know-what-to-do-with-Fr. Ratigan’s-pre-teen-upskirt-videos-&-stills collection”!
…Really?
How does a senior cleric, in an organization (‘officially’), dedicated to removing pleasure from human sexuality, spout such ‘Bovine_Waste’ in public, w/o being re-arrested on the spot??
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icwhite02
Keep giving them all the rope they need
04:30 AM on 01/05/2012
"Tierney is accused of molesting a 13-year-old Missouri boy in 1971. Kansas City-St. Joseph Bishop Robert Finn removed Tierney from active ministry last June after a diocesan review board found the allegations against the priest credible."
What took so long? the church calls THAT JUSTICE?
So what has this guy been doing for the last 40 YEARS? Being a good boy? I hardly think so! It appears that he & his attorneys were trying to find out how many & the names of the children who have reported him during those 40 years! Why? So they can threaten them or pay them off! Talk about tampering with witnesses & manipulating victims! The Catholic church keeps stooping lower & lower!
10:04 AM on 01/05/2012
Tierney is not a Catholic priest. Not to say the Catholics don't have their share.
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Cunningham
I intend to live forever, or die trying. GrouchoM
04:09 PM on 01/05/2012
"Bishop Robert Finn has removed Father Michael Tierney as pastor of Christ the King Parish after receiving reports of sexual misconduct with minors in the early 1970s and 1980s, KMBC is reporting.

The Kansas City-St. Joseph Catholic Diocese's Independent Review Board reportedly received "credible reports alleging sexual misconduct with minors" by Tierney and recommended the pastor's removal from Christ the King Parish as well as from all public ministry."

http://www.pitch.com/plog/archives/2011/06/03/father-michael-tierney-removed-as-pastor-of-christ-the-king-parish-after-accusations-of-sexual-misconduct-with-minors
02:50 AM on 01/05/2012
where's anonymous when you need them?
10:10 AM on 01/05/2012
If you accuse then as the accused you have the right to face your accuser. Thats just like these class action suits where everyone jumps on the bandwagon looking for some money after someone famous or rich is accused of this crime I really don't believe it when all the sudden 200 people claim the guy abused them. Not saying the guy didn't do it just odd the richer the guy the more so call victims there are.
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xenubarb
Nebulon V
11:40 AM on 01/05/2012
We have a "kick 'em when they're down" philosophy. Currently, Scientology is foundering, so we're poking it with sticks.

Can't you Catholics take care of your own mess without us?
02:20 AM on 01/05/2012
Mr.Clohessy is to be commended.

Keep it up!

That is all I have to say.
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Semprini
The Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
01:46 PM on 01/05/2012
I like what you said, and I am enjoying the "Eye"!
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morgansher
just disgusted in general
01:47 AM on 01/05/2012
I'm not surprised at all anymore at how deeply motivated the Catholic Church is to resist and avoid any honest examination of the problem and damage caused by predator priests and abusive nuns. They have no scruples.
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Fenrir Lokison
Nope! I don't want your gold chain!
11:27 PM on 01/04/2012
Human beings...You gotta love the laws we create. They give the same protections to criminals as they do to victims.

I have no issue here if both sides are working within legal grounds.
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pattio66
I'm here!!!
06:05 PM on 01/05/2012
Thank you - you've voiced my sentiment better than I did.
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Fenrir Lokison
Nope! I don't want your gold chain!
06:42 PM on 01/05/2012
I think people will think we are rooting for this priest when in truth all we are doing is looking at the realities of life.

I would love for their to be harsher crimes and justice in somethings and not in others, but if we are to be better than the element we are trying to bring justice to, we have no room to be bigots by allowing certain groups one set of rights and another something different. But to afford everyone the same treatment, even if it is not what we want to do, especially if we do it ourselves.
07:17 PM on 01/04/2012
Is it possible that child predators, church officials, and their lawyers are using any possible desperate tactic to:

-- shut down SNAP
-- intimidate child sex abuse victims,witnesses, and whistleblowers to keep quiet
-- keep crimes of cover up and enabling child predators from being exposed
-- keep those who commit these crimes from being held accountable or jailed
-- protect child predators
-- makes parents and parishioners believe their child protection policy works
-- stop the media (their biggest fear) from reporting on this subject
-- keep the full ugly truth from being known

Victims who suffer from child sex abuse, you have more power than you sometimes believe. You are the ones who know the truth and you can help to stop this horrific abuse of power. We/SNAP are not stopping, and hopefully those who have knowledge, suspect, witnessed, or have been harmed will continue to speak up and contact the police.

Keep in mind your silence only hurts, and by speaking up there is a chance for healing, exposing the truth, and therefore protecting others.

Judy Jones, SNAP Midwest Associate Director, USA, 636-433-2511
snapjudy@gmail.com
"Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests" and all clergy.
http://www.snapnetwork.org/
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PatA
Pink is a 4 letter word
11:00 PM on 01/04/2012
Fanned and faved by a grateful survivor.
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DevonTexas
Eternal Optimism
12:38 PM on 01/05/2012
exactly. They want to remove the cloak of anonymity from the organization so that victims won't feel safe being members. This is a tactic used on similar groups in the past.
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Fenrir Lokison
Nope! I don't want your gold chain!
03:47 PM on 01/05/2012
Or like any organization or person who is faced with a legal issue like this...You want to find out who is making the claim. Find out if it is false or not. And find out if that organization is actually not helping aid someone who is lying.

If any of us were in the defender's shoes, we too would do whatever within the law to make our defense...Even if it is showing an group for what it is.