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Pakistan Militants Kill Kidnapped Troops

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By ABDUL SATTAR and MUNIR AHMED   01/ 5/12 09:48 AM ET   AP

QUETTA, Pakistan -- Armed men kidnapped a British Red Cross worker from the southwestern Pakistani city of Quetta on Thursday, police and the Red Cross said, highlighting the fragile security situation in the country.

The incident took place hours after Islamist militants elsewhere in the country killed 15 Pakistani security officers they seized last month close to the Afghan border and left their naked, bullet-riddled bodies sprawled on the ground.

Police officer Nazir Ahmed Kurd said the man was taken from a vehicle in an upscale housing complex in Quetta. The assailants bundled him into their car and drove off. Kurd said the man was visiting a local school.

Sitara Jabeen, an International Committee of the Red Cross spokeswoman, said health program manager Khalil Rasjed Dale, a British national, was on his way home from work in a clearly marked ICRC vehicle when he was seized near his residence.

In a statement, she said despite the incident, the ICRC would continue its humanitarian work in Pakistan. She called for a "rapid and unconditional release" of Dale.

Baluchistan province is home to Islamist militants and separatist insurgents.

Both groups have kidnapped foreigners and locals in the region before.

Another officer, Ahsan Mahboob, said the British man was traveling with a Pakistani doctor and a driver. They were not taken, he said.

In 2009, an American working for the United Nations refugee agency in the city was kidnapped from the same district as the British aid worker. John Solecki was held for two months by the separatist Baluchistan Liberation United Front before he was released.

The 15 Pakistani officers from the paramilitary Frontier Constabulary were killed in retaliation for an army operation on Jan. 1 in northwest Pakistan that killed several militants, including a prominent commander, according to a statement from the Pakistani Taliban.

It alleged that troops also killed a woman and arrested others, "something that was forbidden and illegitimate in Islam as well as against tribal traditions."

Their bodies were dumped in Shiwa town in the North Waziristan region, said local residents Sada-u-Alla and Salam Khan. Local Frontier Constabulary commander Ali Sher said his men were sent to the area to pick up the corpses.

The insurgents kidnapped them during a Dec. 22 attack on a Pakistani security base in the border region.

In recent months, some militant commanders and intelligence officials have claimed peace talks with the Pakistani Taliban, one of the largest and most brutal militant groups, were under way. But other Pakistani Taliban commanders have dismissed this, and sporadic attacks have continued.

Tribal leaders and analysts speculate that the group, which has been pounded by Pakistani army offensives and American missile strikes over the last few years, is riven with internal splits.

Also Thursday, the Taliban freed 17 Pakistani boys after holding them for four months in neighboring Afghanistan, said Islam Zeb, a government administrator in Pakistan's troubled Bajur tribal region.

He said others were still in the custody of Taliban, who seized a group of 40 boys in September. The boys went to Afghanistan's Kunar province when a man invited them to play in a river there.

The Taliban earlier freed captives under the age of 12.

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Ahmed reported from Islamabad. Associated Press writers Rasool Dawar in Peshawar, Ishtiaq Mahsud in Dera Ismail Khan and Anwarullah Khan from Quetta contributed to this report.

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Yasser Yousufi
Parthian
01:48 AM on 01/06/2012
So-called Pakistani Taliban are just a bunch of gangsters, drug peddlers and highway criminals who have joined hands to make the most out of the uncertain conditions in that region. Pakistani ISI has in the past helped train Afghan Talibans (as has the CIA, MI-5 and others) but these goons mostly work on their own. They come from a territory which is lawless and where every one carries a gun plus they are a battle hardy people who are hard to pin down. Sadly they find refuge in Afghan provinces bordering Pakistan, specially paktia, nangarhar and kunar. Many in Pakistan Army believe they are being sheltered by US in response to Haqqanis being sheltered in Pakistan. SO this is all turning pretty ugly as the climax of US occupation nears. These goons will be picked up one by one on both sides of the border once Americans leave and I can bet on this. These are all acts of desperation. The conscripts that they killed were all their fellow Pashtuns. They scared no one with dastardly act rather sealed their own fate.
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Luuke
07:51 AM on 01/09/2012
I've got invisible under wear for sale...Care for some ?
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Yasser Yousufi
Parthian
08:20 AM on 01/09/2012
nah~! I think you small willy Indians need it more than anyone else~!
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plansmaker
Will China Bailout America For Alaska & Hawaii
11:30 AM on 01/05/2012
Pakistan is the real threat to he West no less than Iran...
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-PZ-
Amateurs talk tactics, profession­als talk logist
12:58 PM on 01/05/2012
???

Read the article???
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Yasser Yousufi
Parthian
01:22 AM on 01/06/2012
Nope, he just knows its about a Muslim country so he vents the same venom he does every time he hears anything about Muslims.
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karen lyons kalmenson
i poem/paint, sometimes, i ain't
08:49 AM on 01/05/2012
this part of the world has their own set of "rules" and he/she who ventures into this landscape does so at extreme peril.
06:16 AM on 01/05/2012
This is what happens when you make a pact with the devil. The government of Pakistan through its own inter-service intelligence (ISI) is reaping the whirlwind; they created the Taliban and now the Taliban with their sociopathic brothers Al Queda want to control not just Afghanistan but Pakistan as well.
This should put an end to all this "good Taliban" v. "bad Taliban" nonsense that they have been spewing forth over the past couple of years.
12:11 PM on 01/05/2012
You can thank the devil, gw bush and company for making a pact with their allied devils in muslim Pakistan.
12:34 PM on 01/05/2012
Well, you could call it that but there is a rather significant difference. The Taliban were formed, trained, supported by Pakistan's ISI. In other words, they built the creature from the ground up. The United States formed a relationship with Pakistan for many reasons, one is logistics. Pakistan's proximity to Afghanistan makes it critical because that where the major logistics necessary to fight in Afghanistan flow through Pakistan. Also, the Pakistani's are the subject experts when it comes to operating in that region and we worked closely with them during the war against the Soviet Occupation of Afghanistan. Not all Pakistani's are untrustworthy, but at best its a very tricky situation and difficult to determine who you can trust.
lastpost
see biography
06:00 AM on 01/05/2012
"slayings"
If the choices are, being the filling in a Drone/Taliban sandwich or not being there. I wonder what the troops themselves would short order.
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-PZ-
Amateurs talk tactics, profession­als talk logist
05:38 AM on 01/05/2012
And I'm sure that people will find some way of saying that the Pakistanis were complicit in the killing of their own soldiers...

Over 30,000 Pakistanis have died... And yet the public opinion remains that Pakistan is doing this on the sly...

Absolutely amazing...
06:25 AM on 01/05/2012
PZ, need to repair your mini bio. I believe you meant to say "logistics".

About your comment, I don't think there will be much public opinion on this particular issue. In general I believe many people are very confused when it comes to Pakistan and really who could blame them. More to the point, when we talk of Pakistan, well there are many levels of Pakistan that we could be talking about because Pakistan is a very fractured state to say the least.
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Yasser Yousufi
Parthian
01:24 AM on 01/06/2012
Just like US! Hard to tell good from evil~!
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farmerlady
Blonde, Democratic socialist, and unwilling expat
04:27 AM on 01/05/2012
The Taliban's only good advantage is the good will of the people they live among. They count on anti-Western feeling to maintain that good will. They go doing things like this, it's a sign they are losing the popular support they need to survive. Pakistani foot soldiers are drawn from the same pool as everywhere else----villagers and the urban poor with few job opportunities, exactly the same people who supported the Taliban---and the soldiers have parents and families who will now be against the Taliban. Should create some frisson in the communities which will not be good for the fundamentalists.
06:34 AM on 01/05/2012
The Taliban have never been overly concerned with popular support, the issue of who supports them and why goes deep and varies greatly. Most of their support these days comes by way pure terror. The innocent Pakistani's or Afghan's as the situation presents itself, are thoroughly intimidated by the Taliban and for very practical reasons (support us or we will kill you; take aid from the Americans/ISAF and we will kill you; friendly with the local Pakistani military -again, we will kill you)
When the Taliban first arrived on the scene and before they won the Afghan civil war (post Soviet occupation) they could rely on more organic support because although they were known as Islamic fundamentalists, not many knew until they gained power just how evil, and hypocritical they truly are.
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farmerlady
Blonde, Democratic socialist, and unwilling expat
01:20 PM on 01/05/2012
You're partly right, but I've spent time in the region and overwhelmingly people commonly believe that fundamentalists are the "best Muslims"---even though they themselves do not want to live that way, the Taliban are still "better" Muslims than everyone else, because they are "pure". This is a very dangerous belief, and I think its shine is slowly wearing off as the people get weary of the tyranny--even within Pakistan, they have far too much power.
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
03:27 AM on 01/05/2012
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adamben
yes i said yes i will yes
09:58 AM on 01/05/2012
what i will agree with is that more american lives would be saved by improving the health and well-being of americans at home, along with affordable health care for all. it would be money better spent than handing over to corrupt governments and the mic.
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Susan Shaffer
tell me from the beginning
01:45 AM on 01/09/2012
if you are old enough to remember 9/11 you know the US wanted blood...and they got it.
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With Your Consent
Speak Truth to Power
02:26 AM on 01/05/2012
Why is Barack Obama still occupying Afghanistan and droning_Pakistan ten years later at $330/million and at least one KIA per day?
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Steelsil
Alan Grayson for President!
03:44 AM on 01/05/2012
Which has nothing to do with this story.
02:04 AM on 01/05/2012
Pakistan is a failed state. Their intelligence services are directly supporting the Taliban and their agenda, while their security forces are coming under attack, probably from weapons they (and, indirectly, we) paid for. Not to mention the civilian toll, which is extremely high. I don't actually see a way out of this except to continue fighting the Taliban...I just wish the ISI would stop supporting the Haqqani network.
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Steelsil
Alan Grayson for President!
03:45 AM on 01/05/2012
It's clearly a lot more fragmented than you portray, or the above story wouldn't have happened.
02:02 AM on 01/05/2012
Pakistani militants
security force members
insurgent factions
local residents Sada-u-Alla and Salam Khan
Intelligence officials
Pakistani Taliban
the Constabulary Corp
some militant commanders
Tribal leaders and analysts
Pakistani army

One quick question: Who are the good guys and who are the bad guys? I know already but I forgot for just one second so just for the sake of expediency who are the good guys and who are the bad guys? Thanks.
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opprobrious
More speech. Less Flagging.
02:23 AM on 01/05/2012
Ask Santa Claus.
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Steelsil
Alan Grayson for President!
03:46 AM on 01/05/2012
Nobody over there knows, either. It's like trying to figure out which cops and politicians are honest in Mexico.
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farmerlady
Blonde, Democratic socialist, and unwilling expat
04:28 AM on 01/05/2012
That sums it up nicely.
02:00 AM on 01/05/2012
It will never stop.

The longer people worship as they please, speak as they please, think freely, create, live in peace, love their families, contribute to the needy and hold criminals accountable, the idea that lasting peace can actually take root.

That would never be allowed.