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Texas School Shooting, Student Killed By Police, Create Stir In Community

First Posted: 01/06/12 10:56 AM ET Updated: 01/06/12 02:23 PM ET

The Associated Press

BROWNSVILLE, Texas — The Rev. Jorge Gomez was counseling worried parents and frightened students late into the night the day police fatally shot an eighth-grader brandishing what appeared to be a handgun inside his South Texas school. The parents said their children weren't eating, some were running fevers, and needed to talk to someone.

The death of 15-year-old Jaime Gonzalez has shaken this neighborhood along the U.S.-Mexico border, where parents already burdened by economic woes and street gangs are now faced with explaining the tragedy to their children.

Making it especially hard: It remains unclear to his parents and investigators why Jaime – a drum major who danced in his church's annual religious festival, stayed out of gangs and had two parents who closely watched him – could swerve off course and bring a weapon to school. The weapon, police later determined, was a pellet gun.

Gomez, who officiated a wake Thursday night that drew hundreds of mourners to Holy Family Catholic Church, a block from the Gonzalez family home, said parents had called him seeking his guidance Wednesday.

"Probably the last (child) left at midnight," Gomez said. "The parents are very concerned. How is this going to affect the community and their kids?"

Jaime was fatally shot in a hallway of Cummings Middle School during first period Wednesday, following frantic calls to police from school officials who, along with responding officers, believed the boy had a handgun. According to a recording of the emergency call, Jaime refused to drop the weapon.

Among the roughly 400 people at the Thursday night service was Delfina Cisneros, a teacher at nearby Longoria Elementary School. Standing in the back of the church with some of the school's young students, she said she taught Jaime in fourth grade, when his family had just moved from the Houston area.

"The parents were trying their best," she said, adding that Jaime was always respectful and polite. "Check out the neighborhood. That will tell you a lot."

Norma Ponce, an assistant principal when Jaime attended Longoria, said many single-parent homes headed by working mothers are in the neighborhood, which is barely a mile from the main bridge connecting Brownsville to Matamoros, Mexico. Many children whose parents remain across the border in Mexico live here with guardians, she said.

Jaime never got into major trouble, Ponce said, and attributed his visits to her office to "mischievous" things for which he always apologized. She said his parents were supportive if called for any reason.

His parents have lamented police for their actions Wednesday, saying they could have taken non-lethal action. But there was broad agreement among law enforcement experts: If a suspect raises a weapon and refuses to put it down, officers are justified in shooting to kill.

Brownsville interim Police Chief Orlando Rodriguez defended his officers, saying the boy pointed the pellet gun – which was black and resembled a real gun – at police and repeatedly defied their commands to put it on the floor.

Rodriguez said the preliminary autopsy report showed the boy was shot twice in the torso. Family members initially thought he was shot in the back of the head, but that wound turned out to be a cut from a fall.

"It really doesn't change anything at all," his father, Jaime Gonzalez Sr., said after being told of the preliminary autopsy results at the vigil for his son. "If it is a wound from his fall, why shoot him at all? Wound him. Do something else. Use another method."

In a recording released Thursday of the 911 call from the school, the assistant principal says a student in the hall has a gun, then reports that he is drawing the weapon and finally that he is running down the hall.

Police can be heard yelling: "Put the gun down! Put it on the floor!" In the background, someone else yells, "He's saying that he is willing to die."

Before police arrived, school administrators had urged Jaime to give up the gun. When officers got to the school, the boy was waiting for them, Rodriguez said.

Moments before he was killed, Jaime began to run down a hallway, but again faced officers. Police fired down the hallway – a distance that made a stun gun or other methods impractical, Rodriguez said.

If the situation had involved hostages or a gunman barricaded in a room, police might have tried negotiations. But instead, Rodriguez stressed, this was an armed student roaming the halls of a school.

The two officers who fired have been placed on administrative leave – standard procedure in police shootings. Rodriguez expected them back at work soon.

Jaime's father has said he didn't know where his son got the pellet gun. Police believed it was a gift, and a friend of the boy's said Jaime told her that but she didn't know who gave it to him.

The school was closed Thursday while police finished their crime-scene investigation. Students were bused instead to a new elementary school that was recently completed on the outskirts of Brownsville but had not yet been used.

District spokeswoman Drue Brown said 17 counselors were working with students and staff. Cummings has a student body of about 750, but only 200 students came to classes Thursday.

Before the church service began that night, dozens of children and teens in white shirts left the church and gathered outside. They chanted Jaime's name and shouted that they loved him. Some sported tattoos, while others were clean cut. One girl who appeared older than the others yelled that if anyone spoke badly of Jaime, she would make them pay.

Gomez said some of the young people at the service were likely gang members, but said many teens in the neighborhood managed to stay out of gangs.

"I know the parents worry a lot to see their kids involved in violent activities, but I'm sure it's not the only neighborhood in the city or in the Valley like this," he said.

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03:55 PM on 01/10/2012
I have an uncle who was shot when he was shooting an airsoft rifle at his brothers. Luckily, he wasn't killed, but he had a wound in his stomach that was treated quickly. This goes to show that any 'guns' are dangerous and that you will be apprehended if police catch you. Of course, they didn't really have to kill the kid, but they aren't trained to shoot at the leg in those situations. Anyone trained with gun use knows that you are trained to 'shoot-to-kill', and the shooters did what they believed was right. Nothing can be changed about what happened, but this is a good lesson to learn if you like to use play guns for play time. Good advice is cops=no guns out and guns out=cops shoot
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Jasel
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04:30 PM on 01/08/2012
Maybe he was trying to get killed??
05:04 PM on 01/09/2012
I thought it might be "suicide by cop" as well.
06:23 AM on 01/08/2012
If you need any more proof that these cops where not being reckless it was two police that shot him. 1 bullet each.

They didn't go Clint Eastwood on the kid. They did what was needed to stop him and nothing more.

Had the kid not been armed or had the police shot him full of holes there would be room for complaints. That isn't what happened. He had a gun, refused to put it down.

I never want to kill anyone and hope I never have to. I can say without a doubt that I would not think twice if I was in a school full of kids and some other kid was making threats with a gun. Making threats, carrying a gun and acting strange in a school is a great way to get yourself shot.

I would rather police go with protecting themselves and the rest of the school then risk everyone.

This kid did not have handcuffs on. He did not give up his weapon. He did not put his hands up. He got exactly what I would expect. In fact I am rather impressed that these officers did their job so well. Killing a kid is not something cops go to work hoping to do. I am surprised they didn't wait until he started shooting.
11:16 AM on 01/10/2012
Personally I am not a fan of many police and think that all too often they use violence at a step above the necessary level (shooting when a stun gun would work...a stun gun when words can work...again some personaly bias at hand I am aware). However in this situation it does seem that the cops did all they could. I do wonder if they could have just shot him in the leg though...overall they did what they had to do but maybe we should focus more on wounding people rather than killing them...it's a tough thing I know, but especially when it comes to children it should be thought of from time to time.
04:52 AM on 01/08/2012
I think the costs associated with police/fire intervention should be paid by the perpetrators.

If this kid had a life insurance policy it should go to the city.
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04:37 AM on 01/08/2012
Tragedy notwithstanding, let us hope the young man's parents come to their senses and cease belaboring the public with the delusion that he was an untroubled child, that they did not know he possessed a pellet gun. Everyone else did. Check out this photo taken of him at a dance, holding the same pistol.
This U.K. news source gives one more insight than our own.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083089/Why-shoot-the-head-Father-demands-know-police-shot-dead-son-15-took-pellet-gun-school.html
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GimmeABreak70
God hates figs-Mark 11:12-14
10:59 PM on 01/07/2012
Tragic story. But if the kid didn't have the gun.....we wouldn't have this story. The end.
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OdinsEye
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11:36 PM on 01/07/2012
He had a gun, but it was a pellet/BB gun. Not a toy. And the pellet/BB gun he had looks almost exactly like a Glock 9 mm. In fact it was designed specifically to look like a Glock.

This is one of the most dreaded situations for most of us cops, but if we hesitate, we or bystanders could be killed. We have no choice but to treat the pellet gun as a full-power gun-powder powered firearm.
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GimmeABreak70
God hates figs-Mark 11:12-14
11:43 PM on 01/07/2012
I think you misunderstood me. The police have my support 100000000%. I'm saying if the kid didn't have a gun.....he wouldn't have put himself in this situation. I'm not questioning if he had it or not.

If you are a police officer....thank you for all you do.
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dbrockskk
05:05 PM on 01/07/2012
The cops couldnt possibly know what it was. What the hell was the kid doing with a pellet gun?
10:08 PM on 01/07/2012
Make money selling them online to the assisted suicide groups!
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OdinsEye
Korean-Latino cop and combat vet
03:12 PM on 01/07/2012
1) Don't buy your kids toys that look like real guns

2) Teach your kids to treat BB guns and pellet guns just like regular guns.

3) Teach your kids not to use guns to solve social problems.

4) Teach you kids to not bring guns to school.

5) Teach your kids to obey police.

6) Teach your kids not to point guns, toy or not, at police.

7) If your kid takes a gun to school to try to solve social problems, fails to obey the police, and points the gun at the police, don't blame the police when your kid ends up on a steel table at the morgue with their chest cut open, face peeled off, and brain in a jar.
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dbrockskk
05:06 PM on 01/07/2012
well said.
10:09 PM on 01/07/2012
and that "alleged" will get you shot, put in jail and barred from employment. It doesn't matter what is, only what others think.
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OdinsEye
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10:15 PM on 01/07/2012
You're shooting high right
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megandvc
Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.
02:15 PM on 01/07/2012
a recording released Thursday of the 911 call from the school, the assistant principal says a student in the hall has a gun, then reports that he is drawing the weapon and finally that he is running down the hall.

Police can be heard yelling: "Put the gun down! Put it on the floor!" In the background, someone else yells, "He's saying that he is willing to die."

Before police arrived, school administrators had urged Jaime to give up the gun. When officers got to the school, the boy was waiting for them, Rodriguez said.

Moments before he was killed, Jaime began to run down a hallway, but again faced officers. Police fired down the hallway – a distance that made a stun gun or other methods impractical, Rodriguez said.

If the situation had involved hostages or a gunman barricaded in a room, police might have tried negotiations. But instead, Rodriguez stressed, this was an armed student roaming the halls of a school.

How else could they have handled it? He wasnt sitting, quietly singing KUMBAYA, he was armed and dangerous. The parents must be going through hell, they seem like good parents who loved and cared for their child. But they must eventually come to terms that this was their sons fault. They tried to reason with him, he knew the police were coming, he didnt care. That's exactly what he wanted, and he got it. I wish he had reached out to someone before he did this.
10:11 PM on 01/07/2012
"he was armed and dangerous" - allegedly, later disproven.
02:15 AM on 01/08/2012
At the time the police arrived he WAS armed and dangerous. Unfortunately police do not have the luxury of waiting to be certain the weapon being pointed at them is real. Once he was shot and they were able to approach with out fear of being injured they were able to discover the weapon was a pellet gun. They had told him to put it down and he choose to wave it at them instead. Sounds to me like he planed suicide by cop all along.
06:07 AM on 01/08/2012
I have a pellet gun similar to this one. Picking it up anyone that knows guns will know in 2 seconds or less that it is not a gun.

But from 10 feet away or more there is no way anyone would be able to if it is real or not.
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madcityy
01:37 PM on 01/07/2012
why did he not drop the gun????????????????????????????
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BlairCase
01:09 PM on 01/07/2012
Pellet guns, or air guns, are real guns. They are not as powerful or dangerous as conventional guns, and the police probably would not have shot the teenager if they had know he was armed with only a pellet guns. However, pellet guns can be lethal at close ranges. Two North Carolina children were killed in unrelated pellet gun shooting in 2011. Pellet guns are not "toy guns."
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/9186324/
06:09 AM on 01/08/2012
More so now then when many of us where kids. When I was little the chances of killing anyone with a pellet/BB gun where not very good. There are now pellet guns that shoot pellets well over 800fps. At that speed they become very dangerous.
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OdinsEye
Korean-Latino cop and combat vet
10:51 AM on 01/09/2012
Heck I have seen some that are in excess of 1200 fps.
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bahkey
01:09 PM on 01/07/2012
Jaime's got a gun,
the whole worlds on the run.
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BlairCase
12:32 PM on 01/07/2012
Posters who think the police should have shot to wound rather than kill simply know nothing about armed confrontations. Many times wounded people keep shooting, even if their wounds are mortal. It's not uncommon for people with multiple gunshot wounds to keep fighting. Police and soldiers are normally trained to aim for center of mass. They can't wait for the other person to shoot first. Waiting for the other person to shoot first is a good way to end up dead. At Columbine, the police "exercise caution" by surrounding the school building rather than rushing inside. Their caution only added to the death toll.
10:12 PM on 01/07/2012
Yes, we no longer have police, we have differently uniformed military.
11:44 AM on 01/07/2012
Just more Texas.
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Lawrence Oherlabia
02:11 PM on 01/07/2012
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06:22 PM on 01/07/2012
No, just more Mexico
08:12 AM on 01/07/2012
Police can be heard yelling: "Put the gun down! Put it on the floor!" In the background, someone else yells, "He's saying that he is willing to die."

Suicide by cops.
06:11 AM on 01/08/2012
That is what I took away from this story. He wanted to die but couldn't do it himself. There is no other way to explain why anyone would argue with police like that.

The story even makes it sound like he was not in any way stupid. Now if he was in special ed I could see him maybe not understanding the situation he was in.