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David Cay Johnston: Is It Is Time To Drop Income Taxes?

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First Posted: 01/06/12 01:44 PM ET Updated: 01/07/12 01:08 PM ET


(The author is a Reuters columnist. The opinions expressed are his own.)

By David Cay Johnston

Jan 6 (Reuters) - This is America's 100th year for individual income tax, a system as out of touch with our era as digital music is with the hand-cranked Victrola music players of 1912. It is also the 26th year of the Reagan-era reform for both personal and corporate tax, a grand design now buried under special-interest favors.

With U.S. elections in November, and the George W. Bush tax cuts due to expire at the end of 2012, it's time for a debate that goes beyond ginning up anger over taxes and the superficial issue of tax rates.

It's time to consider whether to get rid of income taxes, personal and corporate. What are the strengths and weaknesses of our current system? Should we tax individual and corporate income -- or something else?

We need to think about it. Whatever systems we consider, we should weigh up what it takes to raise the necessary revenue along with such other attributes as minimal compliance cost, leakage and economic distortion.

Times change. Tax systems must change with them or else their lubricating effect turns to sand, wearing down the gears of commerce.

Just as the Industrial Revolution transformed a nation of farmers and mechanics into a land of factory hands and office workers, so too the digital revolution and globalization are fundamentally remaking society.

We need for our tax system to serve our 21st century civilization and its needs, including the costs of aging infrastructure and an aging population, costs that will be borne one way or another.

5 PRINCIPLES

Five ancient principles that have survived the test of time and are, therefore, profoundly conservative, should guide us.

The first is the moral principle of progressive taxation -- that the greater the gain you manage to attain, whether through hard work or luck, the greater your duty to pay back the society that made your riches possible so that it will endure. This concept is 2,500 years old, coming to us along with its civil twin, democracy, from ancient Athens.

The second is horizontal equity. Each person, or business, with the same ability to pay should pay the same tax. We must not tolerate a system in which one family or company pays far more than another with the same income, thanks to all the fine print in the tax code.

Simplicity, transparency and ease of payment should be the last three of the five guiding principles, as Adam Smith taught more than two centuries ago.

So what do we do?

Narrowly defining what constitutes income for tax purposes bloats the tax code. To the vast majority who earn a paycheck, defining income is simple. For the very rich and for corporations, it is a game. Too many of our most elegant and rigorous minds design techniques for tax avoidance and tax deferral instead of producing new wealth, imposing a huge cost on society.

In ancient agrarian societies the ruler took a share of the crop. In the cash economies created by the Industrial Revolution the state taxed incomes. But is income the right tax base for the 21st century, when computer software makes it possible to wrap economic income in a cloak of tax invisibility?

And why, in our digital era, must Americans file 140 million tax returns? Digital technology could eliminate 120 million of those tax forms, saving billions of dollars in both private and government spending.


QUESTIONS ARISE

In a global economy, is taxing corporate profits smart? Or could we devise rules that both promote investment and job creation while preventing the accumulation of unproductive fortunes -- the great risk if corporations are tax-exempt.

Look at the same question in reverse -- is our tax system encouraging unproductive or even counterproductive activities?

What else should we call a system that lets hedge-fund and other financial speculators defer paying taxes for years or decades on their carried interest, while discouraging investment in long-term projects that may not pay off for a decade or more? How else to explain our gross overinvestment in housing?

And what about corporate tax accounting costs?

Under President Barack Obama, business has been able to immediately write off 50 percent of new investment one year and 100 percent in two other years. We need to examine the long-term benefits and costs of full expensing. The White House says full expensing lowers the average cost of capital for business investment by 75 percent. But what other effects are there?

More broadly, we need to debate why corporations must keep two sets of books, one for shareholders and one for the IRS. How much more efficient would taxation, and commerce, be with one set of books?

With the individual income tax in its 100th year, it's time to fundamentally rethink how we tax ourselves. Even if we end up keeping the income tax, personal and corporate, surely we can make the system easier and fairer. (Editing by Howard Goller and Eddie Evans)

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(The author is a Reuters columnist. The opinions expressed are his own.) By David Cay Johnston Jan 6 (Reuters) - This is America's 100th year for individual income tax,...
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MikeyJaii
Socialism.
11:55 AM on 01/12/2012
There was never a law to collect income tax!!
01:43 PM on 01/10/2012
income and sales taxes are both bad as they tax labor rather than wealth. the best taxes are on the holding of wealth and the best of these are the land value tax promoted by henry george and the tax on holding money promoted by silvio gesell.
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plebian43
Go back to sleep, it's your duty.
01:42 PM on 01/10/2012
What, get rid of the graduated income tax and the enforcement arm of the Federal Reserve, like that's gonna happen.
01:06 AM on 01/10/2012
how about a flat rate income tax, no write offs or tax shelters or whatever? has anyone ever tried that?
01:02 PM on 01/10/2012
It becomes a regressive tax in the sense that those who have to spend a greater proportion of their earnings on necessities end up bearing a greater tax burden than those who can afford to save some of their earnings. A flat tax has never, and will never be a viable solution because it is inherently unfair to the majority (but great for the few at the top).
01:34 PM on 01/10/2012
how is a flat income tax affected by how much a person spends, exactly? say 10%. my income taxed 10%, vs a billionaires income taxed at 10%. they probably spend quite a larger amount too, paying more in sales tax. sounds like a flat income tax is about as fair as it gets, everybody paying the same percentage, w/o any tax dodges/writeoffs/shelters.
12:02 AM on 01/10/2012
Yes do away with all taxes besides SALES TAX (will be at a higher rate of course). This method would be fair to everyone (the more you spend the more taxes you pay).
01:05 PM on 01/10/2012
The same comment I made above applies here:
The sales tax becomes a regressive tax in the sense that those who have to spend a greater proportion of their earnings on necessities end up bearing a greater tax burden than those who can afford to save some of their earnings. Neither a sales tax nor a flat tax will ever be viable solutions because they are inherently unfair to the majority (but great for the few at the top).
01:53 PM on 01/10/2012
Then I guess you like the tax plan as it is huh because the poor ARE poor and the Rich pay nothing.

My plan works better because rich people and business will still pay import tax, capital gains tax and sales tax.

18% sales tax will not break the bank. With no ss, income tax, medicare tax.

If all money was spent.
$20,000 = $3,600

$300,000 = $54,000

Now show me where its not fair. Your paying 15% fed tax on $20,000 right now.
09:16 PM on 01/09/2012
YES

The less money I give to corrupt thieving politicians the better.

WAKE UP

Your lives are fodder for the poles who OWN YOU (along with the bankers).
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TheCommons
I didn't quit. You just bored me.
10:06 PM on 01/09/2012
Tax revision or tax reform doesn't necessarily mean it will translate into tax savings for you personally.
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lindaj3884
09:05 PM on 01/09/2012
We need to go back to the tax rates Pre-Reagan when the rich and corporations paid their fair share. No companies like GE getting huge rebates and not paying a cent. Our infrastructure is crumbling and there is no money to fix it. We need to end loopholes. We need to stop subsidizing outsourcing of American jobs and give subsidies for companies that create jobs. We need to get back to something called common sense. It is way past time.
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Ashok Hegde
12:50 PM on 01/10/2012
It's not common sense, or fair to take 70% + of anyone's income. It is theft. Common sense would tell anyone that.

Everyone should pay their "fair share", and thats why a flat tax is the most fair way to organize a society. The State should live on 20% of everyone's income, no exceptions. No loopholes, no deductions, nothing.
01:11 PM on 01/10/2012
You should really look at the history of the tax code (common sense should indicate to you that it would be a good start before you comment like you know what you're talking about). The US did pretty darn good from the end of WWII through the late 70's under much higher tax rates. We built a middle class and significantly improved on the standard of living for a huge majority of this country. The income inequality in this country was at it's lowest point before the Reagan years, and has been consistently erroded ever since (see the October 25, 2011 CBO report). History tells us it's not theft, it's a progressive income tax that is good for everyone and not just a slim minority.
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tantamnt
06:58 PM on 01/09/2012
Asset based tax system not income. The more you have, the more protection you need, right? Basic insurance.
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Ashok Hegde
12:51 PM on 01/10/2012
Just offshore those assets, and you don't need as much protection. A swiss or singaporean bank can handle it.
oilfield
small manufacturing business owner
05:25 PM on 01/09/2012
the 179 deduction for 100% deductions of equipment encourages businesses to keep money in the company. eliminating corporate taxes would do the same thing, it gets taxed when it goes to people anyway.
01:16 PM on 01/10/2012
How does 179 encourage business to keep money in the company??? Section 179 is all about getting companies to invest in fixed assets by spending money (which means income to other companies who then can spend money on their expenses, whose vendors can then spend money on their business expenditures, and on and on). Your argument falls flat when one knows what you're referring to. You may need a good accountant if you think 179 and bonus depreciation (which you refer to, unintentionally maybe), and the elimination of corporate tax rates have anything in common.
oilfield
small manufacturing business owner
04:18 PM on 01/10/2012
why pay in taxes today what you can invest for tomorrow?
if i make 500k in profit, and can buy a 500k machine that makes me need 20% less labor for next year and the year after.....its a no brainer....
on the other hand if make 500k in profit i have to either pay 150k in taxes or take it out of the company and take the income personally as salary or bonuses and pay personal tax rates on it. here is where it really gets fun, i can lease the equipment with the 1.00 buyout...pay nothing down, save the 150k in taxes and 15 months in at 10k a month be where i would have had to be anyway.....depending on what you buy, 15 months is a really good head start for payout on equipment. so the lower the corporate tax rates, the more money would stay in corporations or not be given out as bonuses....its my belief that the 179 deduction is good for american manufacturing and there is plenty of data to support that with equipment orders.
03:53 PM on 01/09/2012
Thanks for opening the debate.

1. Until we decide on another way to finance retirement, the payroll tax should stay and should apply to all wage income, with no comparable increase in benefits.

2. Consumption taxes are very attractive because they fall on those who consume the most.

3. The tax code is geared to protecting weak, poorly run companies and penalizing profitable, well run companies. A cash flow tax would remedy this situation. Similarly, it would allow repatriation of overseas profits without additional taxation.

4. The permanent elimination of all tax paperwork for all individuals would provide a tremendous reduction in wasted effort.

It should be clear that consumption taxes will increase taxes on the working poor and MIDDLE CLASS compared to current marginal income tax rates. It is also extremely likely that conversion to a consumption tax will reduce government revenues, resulting in a dramatic shrinking of government revenues (which is not all bad).
04:07 PM on 01/09/2012
With all due respect if you look at the current government budget deficit I don't see how you can be positive in any way about reducing government revenues ... unless you'd like to see debt go even higher than it is. if we have any hope of balancing our books again we need more revenue coming in, not less.
12:15 AM on 01/10/2012
So what your saying is tax us to death?

The solution is for the government to STOP over spending and LARGELY reduce its size. Do you overspend? Governments should never be able to take loans. They need to work with the revenue we have (end of story) if they can't then we need to find the government officials that will.
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Ashok Hegde
12:52 PM on 01/10/2012
No, the better solution is less spending.
03:41 PM on 01/09/2012
Fair Tax!!!
08:38 PM on 01/09/2012
Reuters Columnist here...

@Wow, please read my comments elsewhere here on why the Fair Tax is anything but, is utterly unworkable and would create pressure to end the use of cash, which in turn would be the end of individual liberty as we know it.
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cyclone70
if there was a time to reach for the pitchfork
03:22 PM on 01/09/2012
tariffs

put a tariff on imported goods this will reduce the tax burden on business and individuals as well as discourage imports thus helping right the trade imbalance
12:19 AM on 01/10/2012
That will cause hyper inflation. Businesses will $10.00 an hour instead of $1.50 an hour, the cost of product will rise rapidly
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cyclone70
if there was a time to reach for the pitchfork
06:10 AM on 01/10/2012
nonsense you have no data to back this assertion up

the US used to get most of its revenue from tariffs

US workers and Industry did just fine when we were much more protectionist than today
satyrday
If my micro-bio is way too long, will it be trunca
03:12 PM on 01/09/2012
Progressive income taxes (on all income) are the fairest, and easiest method. The rest is just special interests and pandering.
03:30 PM on 01/09/2012
Fine
what do you say to 5 levels
No deductions
satyrday
If my micro-bio is way too long, will it be trunca
03:32 PM on 01/09/2012
Sounds good, if the levels are appropriate.

The proof is determined by the gains/losses in any given segment of the population. We should all progress about the same, unlike the huge gains the wealthy have had lately, while the rest have stagnated.
07:58 PM on 01/09/2012
Logarithmic ad infinitum. The more you make the higher the percentage until every dime made is used for the betterment of the country. If defined properly it would not penalize the poor or the reasonably wealthy but a person making hundreds of millions would pay a greater share. There is no reason for "capital gains" to be taxed at a lower rate than any other income.
12:25 AM on 01/10/2012
How about no taxes besides sales tax. Seems more reasonable to me.
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cyclone70
if there was a time to reach for the pitchfork
06:14 AM on 01/10/2012
sales taxes are regressive
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geneandeddie59
Internationally unknown
02:15 PM on 01/09/2012
Smokescreen alert!!!
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UberdanSounds
I make music(al), funnies.
01:10 PM on 01/09/2012
The man's got a valid point.

Guess how many pages it takes to create those complicated 'Loopholes'...
http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/federal-tax-rules-72536-pages/