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Republican Debate Sunday Serves Up More Fireworks But No Game-Changers

First Posted: 01/08/2012 10:27 am Updated: 01/09/2012 11:01 am

CONCORD, N.H. -- The Republican presidential candidates came alive Sunday morning during their second debate in 12 hours, trading verbal blows and taking on frontrunner Mitt Romney in a way that had been expected the previous evening.

Romney deftly swatted back the attacks, showing once again how slick a debater he has become. Nonetheless, a new overnight tracking poll showed signs of slippage in the former Massachusetts governor's lead in the Granite State, with two days left before the first-in-the-nation primary.

The Suffolk University/7 News poll showed Romney's support in New Hampshire down to 35 percent from 43 percent last Tuesday, although Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) was still double digits away at 20 percent. Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman was surging in the survey to third place, with 11 percent. And former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) was also moving backwards to 8 percent, down from 11 percent just two days ago. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) was at 9 percent.

Huntsman was the surprise of the morning. He seemed to connect during the NBC/Facebook debate, with his focus on restoring the trust of the American people. He also drew Romney into an exchange in which Romney, as he had done Saturday night during the ABC debate, disparaged Huntsman's 2009-10 service as U.S. ambassador to China under President Barack Obama.

"I think we serve our country first by standing for people who believe in conservative principles and doing everything in our power to promote an agenda that does not include President Obama's agenda," Romney said. "The person who should represent our party running against President Obama is not someone who called him a remarkable leader and went to be his ambassador in China."

Huntsman shot back immediately with a line that drew enthusiastic applause from the audience: "This nation is divided because of attitudes like that."

"The American people are tired of the partisan division. They have had enough. There is no trust left," Huntsman added.

It was Romney's pettiest moment of the morning. At other points, however, he was able to fend off knocks from Gingrich and Santorum, who took aim at Romney in the debate's first few moments.

"He wouldn't stand up for conservative principles. He ran from Ronald Reagan," Santorum said of Romney's unsuccessful 1994 bid for the U.S. Senate against Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.). "We want someone when the time gets tough ... who's going to stand up and fight for the conservative principles."

Santorum also hit Romney because he did not run for reelection after his first term as Massachusetts governor. "If his record was so great as governor of Massachusetts, why didn't he run for reelection? Why did you bail out?" asked Santorum.

Romney responded that he did not consider politics a career, but instead ran for public office out of altruistic motives.

"I went to Massachusetts to make a difference," Romney said. "Run again? That would be about me."

"Politics is not a career. For me, my career was being in business," he added.

Gingrich, whose irritation with Romney has become volcanic in recent weeks, could not contain himself.

"I realize the red light doesn't mean anything to you because you're the frontrunner, but can we drop a little of the pious baloney?" Gingrich spat out. "Just level with the American people. You have been running at least since the 1990s."

But it was an exchange between Gingrich and Romney at the end of the debate that showed Romney's ability to maintain a calm veneer while punching back hard in a televised format. Gingrich complained that ads run by a super PAC supporting Romney presented false information.

Romney made a small slip by claiming that he had not seen the ads and then detailing charges in the TV spots as Gingrich looked on with a grimace. Romney methodically ticked off the criticisms: Gingrich was forced out of the speakership in the House, he sat down with former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to promote global warming legislation, he criticized the Medicare reform plan offered by Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), and he was the subject of an investigation by the House Ethics Committee.

"Those things were all true," Romney said.

The Romney campaign is fully aware of the challenges of TV debates, which have played a bigger role in this presidential primary than in past contests. As former New Hampshire Gov. John Sununu told The Huffington Post after Saturday night's snoozer of a debate in Manchester, N.H., "Television is a harsh medium."

"If you're harsh on television, that gets magnified. And it's hard to be tough. It's a real tight balance," Sununu said.

Romney showed once again why the experience gained from running four years ago has helped him to stand out from the other candidates in these high-profile, high-pressure debate settings. He also has a campaign machine that dwarfs and outperforms all others in the field.

Still, Romney has failed to close the deal with Republican voters, and if his numbers continue to slip ahead of Tuesday's New Hampshire primary, he could move on to South Carolina's Jan. 21 contest in a somewhat weakened position. The problem for the anti-Romney contingent in the GOP, however, is that none of the other candidates present a compelling alternative. Or at least they don't yet.

In the meantime, the Romney campaign has argued that a win in New Hampshire will -- no matter what the margin -- be a tremendous achievement.

"If Mitt wins, I think the history-making nature of that win will overwhelm all the other coverage of the race to this point. No non-incumbent Republican has ever won Iowa and New Hampshire," Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom told HuffPost Saturday night. "So I don't think it matters whether he wins by a few votes as he did in Iowa or by some bigger number. I think it will be history-making in its own way."

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CONCORD, N.H. -- The Republican presidential candidates came alive Sunday morning during their second debate in 12 hours, trading verbal blows and taking on frontrunner Mitt Romney in a way that had b...
CONCORD, N.H. -- The Republican presidential candidates came alive Sunday morning during their second debate in 12 hours, trading verbal blows and taking on frontrunner Mitt Romney in a way that had b...
 
 
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fgbouman
Curmudgeon & Designer
09:03 AM on 01/10/2012
With the exception of Romer and Huntsman the ntire GOP field doesn't collectively add up to a single person who is worthy of consideraton by rational Republicans. At what point will they figure that out?
11:34 PM on 01/09/2012
Obama's revolving wall street circus....
Chief of staff 1: Freddie Mac board
Chief of staff 2: JP Morgan Chase Executive
Chief of staff 1: Citibank Executive

Doesn't even take that much work to follow the money...come on people, wake up
10:54 PM on 01/09/2012
we are being worked
10:51 PM on 01/09/2012
Things that make you go hmmmm...which looks worse, first guy middle guy or new guy? I can't make up my mind, but ask Chicago how the privatization of their parking is working out...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/new-chief-staff-former-hedge-fund-exec-citigroup-made-money-mortgage-defaults_616230.html

http://economyincrisis.org/content/sovereign-wealth-funds-buying-infrastructure
03:55 PM on 01/09/2012
Attacking Ron Paul is like shooting at the police while the robbers are getting away with everything you own.
07:59 PM on 01/09/2012
LOL..sure
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
signalfire
12:06 PM on 01/09/2012
So, running for governor again would have been 'all about me' but running for president isn't??
04:13 AM on 01/09/2012
"I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in ther midst of the war." in front of me, and the financial institutions, in the rear. Of the two, the one in the rear is the greatest enemy...I see in the future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in ther midst of the war."  -Abraham Lincoln

History repeats. Please vote Ron Paul
04:08 AM on 01/09/2012
Every step we take towards making the State our Caretaker of our lives, by that much we move toward making the State our Master."
Dwight D. Eisenhower
03:58 AM on 01/09/2012
"If the American people ever allow private banks
to control the issue of their money,
first by inflation and then by deflation,
the banks and corporations that will
grow up around them (around the banks),
will deprive the people of their property
until their children will wake up homeless
on the continent their fathers conquered."
-Thomas Jefferson, US Founding Father, Drafted the Declaration of Independence

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." -Woodrow Wilson, after signing the Federal Reserve into existence
03:37 AM on 01/09/2012
Time2talk,
You are correct that we have the world on speed-dial. We are also subsidized by the rest of the world. We are a consumption society, currently at the top of the food chain, but we are not immune to failure due to bad core economic policies....more of the same for the last hundred years. When will we learn again?
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Warren Harrison
Defending All The Good America Stands For
03:13 AM on 01/09/2012
Wisdom is for the wise man. Violence in speech is for the violent at heart. Those who cannot outsmart their opponent, reflect their true character. The greatest intrusion upon the American Populace by any candidate, is the violence in their speech that disengages the brotherhood of all Americans.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
xsm941f
by any means necessary
02:29 AM on 01/09/2012
Incredibly weak field of candidates
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
kateslate
Sometimes the questions are complicated and the an
02:28 AM on 01/09/2012
The look in Romney's eyes while he spoke about "job creation" and knowing his own history.....priceless. A language expert please, Bill......
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Fireslayer
02:10 AM on 01/09/2012
Romney is far to the tight of international law here..

r
01:32 AM on 01/09/2012
What the american people are tired of, and rightly so,is being exploited by both parties! The hypocrisy on both sides of the isle has become intolerable and the hard liners towing both party lines are motivated by self interest disguised as the common good! Both parties treat the people here at home and abroad as means to an end. Cronyism and loopholes abound while they slowly whittle away at the constitution. The american people want the constitution, one set of laws that applies to EVERYONE, and a president that represents the people of america, not some european marxist agenda ,Obama, Big business I'll tell you what you want to hear profiteer, Romney, political profiteer washington reject, Gingrich, or intolerant self righteous religious bigot, Santorum! It is long past time for status quo in washington to END!
02:01 AM on 01/09/2012
You're right. But the sad fact is that the American people are too ignorant, spoiled, and lazy to even care for themselves. We've got the government we deserve and voted for.

Politicians are the lowest. Fend for yourself and surround yourself with other good people. America may fail but the strong among us won't.
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
kateslate
Sometimes the questions are complicated and the an
02:33 AM on 01/09/2012
Speak for yourself! I/We/Myfamily have/has worked very hard for everything we have....we believe in President Obama's policies.

A favorite tale of mine is that of "The tortoise and the hare." Lay your ground work, make sure you have proper resources, and then PRODUCE! It takes a while...but (southern accent here) but SON....it's WORTH it in the long run!

I would rather have a slow and steady economic turnaround than more bumps and bruises, thank you very much.
02:59 AM on 01/09/2012
That is the plan. Interesting times are coming. I'm curious to see where the first domino will fall. Me and mine are ready, I hope you and yours are as well. Good luck to you.