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Hugo Chavez: Venezuela Won't Recognize World Bank-Affiliated Group

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By IAN JAMES   01/ 8/12 06:59 PM ET   AP

CARACAS, Venezuela -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said Sunday that his government should pull out of a World Bank-affiliated arbitration body and won't recognize its decisions.

Exxon Mobil Corp. is one of more than a dozen companies with arbitration cases against Venezuela pending before the Washington-based International Centre for Settlement of Investment Disputes, or ICSID.

Chavez announced his decision while referring to a more than $900 million award that Exxon Mobil recently won in another arbitration case before the International Chamber of Commerce.

"Now they're threatening us in the ICSID," Chavez said on his Sunday television program. "We have to get out of that ICSID. And I'll go ahead and say it: We won't recognize any of ICSID's decisions."

Analysts said that if Chavez follows through on the plan, it could hurt Venezuela's ability to obtain credit internationally and attract oil investments. It also might prompt companies in disputes with Chavez's government to try to freeze the country's assets, including refineries it owns in the U.S.

However, pulling out of the arbitration body would take time, and analysts said Chavez's government still has legal obligations that it can't escape in the pending cases before the arbitration body.

Exxon Mobil sought arbitration after Chavez's government nationalized an oil project in Venezuela in 2007. The Irving, Texas-based oil company declined to comment about Chavez's remarks.

The ICSID's website lists 17 pending cases against Venezuela. They include claims by Houston-based oil company ConocoPhillips Co., U.S. glass container manufacturer Owens-Illinois Inc. and Toronto-based mining company Crystallex International Corp.

The Caracas-based consulting firm Ecoanalitica estimated recently that the bulk of the government's nationalizations have involved more than $33.7 billion in assets, including about $23 billion in outstanding obligations. It estimates that of that, Exxon Mobil and ConocoPhillips stand to gain a total of $11.5 billion in their pending arbitration claims.

Venezuela has reached negotiated agreements after taking over the operations of other companies such as Swiss cement maker Holcim and Mexican cement company Cemex SAB.

Decisions in the arbitration cases could put major financial pressures on Venezuela at a time when Chavez is running for re-election and has been increasing government spending.

"Why do we have to go there, to the United States?" Chavez said of the ICSID. "The World Bank, what's that?"

Chavez had mentioned previously that the government was considering abandoning the arbitration body, following the leftist governments in Ecuador and Bolivia, which have pulled out in the past several years. But analysts had described a Venezuelan pullout as unlikely because it would likely bring various financial consequences for the government, including affecting its government bonds.

"Tomorrow, I'm sure that bonds are going to fall," said Asdrubal Oliveros, an economist and director of Ecoanalitica. "This is going to generate a lot of noise."

Regardless of what Chavez says, Venezuela "has an obligation to accept the decisions that the ICSID is going to make with respect to Conoco and Exxon," Oliveros said in a telephone interview. He said the government already accepted the arbiter in all of the pending cases and cannot take that back.

If the government eventually goes through with Chavez's idea, companies will be able to go after Venezuelan assets in the U.S. and elsewhere, Oliveros said.

He noted, however, that several years ago Chavez similarly vowed to pull out of the International Monetary Fund but found it impractical.

"I think that when they realize the impact of pulling out of the ICSID... the government will probably reverse course," Oliveros said.

Michael Nolan, a Washington lawyer who represents clients considering arbitration suits against Chavez's government, agreed that a withdrawal by Venezuela should not have any effect on cases that are already under way. He said companies should still also be able to file new arbitration cases for some time because there is a six-month "sunset provision" in a key convention to which Venezuela is a party.

"President Chavez is not going to solve Venezuela's very serious international legal problems with either speeches or even a formal denunciation of the ICSID Convention," Nolan said, noting that those pursuing claims against Venezuela are also able to sue under about 20 investment treaties that Venezuela has signed with other countries.

Chavez said Ecuadorean President Rafael Correa "is proposing something that is absolutely necessary, creating an organization in (the regional bloc) Unasur where some differences between governments or businesses in Latin America can be settled."

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CARACAS, Venezuela -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said Sunday that his government should pull out of a World Bank-affiliated arbitration body and won't recognize its decisions. Exxon Mobil Corp.
CARACAS, Venezuela -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said Sunday that his government should pull out of a World Bank-affiliated arbitration body and won't recognize its decisions. Exxon Mobil Corp.
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07:00 PM on 01/10/2012
Americas back yard is the moral equal to the Soviets Iron curtain. The iron curtain rusted away. But Americas backyard mentality is still alive and well. Viva Fidel, Hugo, Evo, Daniel, Christina from Argentina, and soon AMLO from Mexico. All our Latin American countries have suffered from countless violent interventions from the USA. Our new leaders who are truely free from the US yoke, are united with all the free people of the world. Let the worms live and die in miami.
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Dad of Marine
Army Vet- Latino Liberal-Progressive - Confident
08:55 PM on 01/10/2012
Good analogy, maya0! And yes, seems fair to me!
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
05:06 PM on 01/10/2012
Chavez is a crook and a theif of his countrys wealth...I hope they skin him like a Cod Fish.
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Dad of Marine
Army Vet- Latino Liberal-Progressive - Confident
08:47 PM on 01/10/2012
Maybe it is because Chavez took his book learning from those other crooks, the many, hundreds of them, from wall street. Hey, we can make a monetary killing selling ghetto loans, sub prime loans to them! They won't know any difference, right, my an.. glo buddies?
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stargazer13
To Love One Is To Love All
04:40 PM on 01/10/2012
Iceland

now look what you started :)
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Dusty Ray
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12:15 AM on 01/10/2012
Bravo to Mr. Chavez for standing up to the corrupt multinational corporate backed World Bank and put HIS countries interests before anyone else. Oh yeah and to all of you boo hewers out there, how much money has Exxon screwed out of the people of Alaska and the rest of the American people, think about that before you raise a finger to defend them in your retort.
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
05:06 PM on 01/10/2012
No one is mo0re corrupt than Chavez...just his ask political opponants...if you can find them and are still physically able to speak..
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Dad of Marine
Army Vet- Latino Liberal-Progressive - Confident
08:58 PM on 01/10/2012
No one is more corrupt than exxon mobil! Just ask their economic and environmental opponents. They have destroyed our environment, particularly in South America and in other parts of the world. They go away from the U.S. to avoid the tougher regulations we have here. Some would argue our regulations do NOT go far enough!
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Dusty Ray
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11:32 AM on 01/11/2012
What politician isn't corrupt in the eyes of their opponants, you belevie they are silenced and tortured because our corporate run media tells you they are
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Timma
nihil habentes omnia posidentes
10:14 PM on 01/09/2012
Given the state of politics in the US it's refreshing to hear a politician actually say something from the heart...
cwaged1002
There is hope but not for us
05:30 PM on 01/09/2012
The United States and Israel ignore any and all International decisions made by any court, that is not decided in their favor and, there are no consequences. But other countries had better pay up when any court rules in the favor of God's chosen two people, or there There Will be Consequences.

All empires fall. Those built on sand fall even sooner.
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
05:29 PM on 01/09/2012
the russians and chinese will still finance them, if he defaults, he will be removed.
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Ed Baker
All Hail Big Mother
04:54 PM on 01/09/2012
This is what happens when you elect Mr. Potato Head as President.
cwaged1002
There is hope but not for us
05:33 PM on 01/09/2012
We know. That is why after 8 years of Bush, President Obama won.
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Ed Baker
All Hail Big Mother
05:37 PM on 01/09/2012
Yeah, and then continued most of what Bush was doing. :)
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06:28 PM on 01/09/2012
What are the differences?

Practically the same tax policies, both increased entitlement spending, Obama increased military personal overseas, Obama kept most of Bush's policies intact or strengthened…

I'm sorry you aren't informed.
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Willie Qwit
Willie don't qwit!
10:29 PM on 01/09/2012
The country got sick of the lies. Lies about WMD and nuclear capabilities in Iraq. Lied about the almost constant orange terrorist threat levels, Lied about tax cuts and the EPA. Lied about ties to bin Laden. Lied about looking for bin Laden. The list goes on and on. And Cheney, the evil menace that really ran the country for eight years, was even worse.

Obama is far less than perfect. He's been a rookie and he's made rookie mistakes. No doubt about it. But Obama is several thousand percent better than Bush or Cheney.
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Ed Baker
All Hail Big Mother
10:48 AM on 01/10/2012
I'll agree with what you've posted above.

But, Obama has done some things that I just won't accept, so there will be no checks to any politicians from me in this election cycle.

I'm reallocating those dollars to where they are more effective - legal advocacy groups and black crow organizations.
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madcityy
03:10 PM on 01/09/2012
HUGO U AHOLE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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chefacree
02:24 PM on 01/09/2012
This guy is spending money with both hands. He doesn't want to pay as agreed to with the oil companies. He is just another Latin dictator want a be soon to be deposed. He will never give up power in a free election so to overthrow him is all the people have.
cwaged1002
There is hope but not for us
05:35 PM on 01/09/2012
President Chavez won by a free democratic vote.

Not by an Electoral College, or a Supreme Court.
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chefacree
09:15 AM on 01/10/2012
Then promptly undermined and closed state institutions and closed newspapers You know like Hitler did. He was elected in a free democratic vote too. How did that work out? You need to get your head out and get real.
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stargazer13
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04:45 PM on 01/10/2012
to bad so sad !

he nationalized the countries oil :)

I think we here should do the same !!

because selling our national resource,s for private profit for a few is not the way to go any more
April22
Some experiences in life are ineffable
12:29 PM on 01/09/2012
Exxon was only awarded 10% or $225 million of what Exxon had initially invested.

Exxon wanted $12 billion or the value of the project today citing potential loss and future profits.

The Venezuelan government had originally offered $1 billion to Exxon to break their contract.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/01/201215194512924679.html
09:30 PM on 01/09/2012
How much of that investment went to anyone in Venezuela? American companies walk into 3rd world countries offering pennies for land with resources worth billions. Then they invest a few hundred million in drilling equipment and infrastructure to facilitate removal of the resource. But in the US, they own the oil and even receive an allowance for depleting that resource. Venezuelan oil belongs to Venezuelans. Not Exxon...
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parabq
12:12 PM on 01/09/2012
Chavez owns refinerys in the US ????????? Amazing how screwed up the globalists have
gotten things - scu-mmmy banksters.
12:22 PM on 01/09/2012
And gas stations: Citgo. Chavez has also reduced the price of heating oil in poor communities to help them. Don't know if the program is still ongoing.

http://www.citizensenergy.com/main/Home.html
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1870219,00.html
cwaged1002
There is hope but not for us
05:43 PM on 01/09/2012
No, Chavez does not own refineries in the USA, but USA Oil companies owned investments in
VN oil. President Chavez nationalized Venezuela's oil several years ago and ever since the United States has been very upset with him. He refuses to accept the American belief that they own, by Divine Right, all the natural and human resources of the globe.
11:27 AM on 01/09/2012
YES!!! Stop the greed. Stay alert, educate yourself. Live and love within your means!.../
10:47 AM on 01/09/2012
This is Obama south. The only difference is his teleprompter speaks Spanish.
11:54 AM on 01/09/2012
If you could only understand how stupid you sound, that would be a blessing!
12:16 PM on 01/09/2012
And thanks for that well thought out and insightful reply...
10:39 PM on 01/09/2012
Do you really believe that you live in a Socialist state? I know you're joking but you keep repeating that to yourself and you might self-brainwash.
10:41 AM on 01/09/2012
Hugo is destroying his countrys oil industry. it has lost 1/3 of its production capacity since his leadership. that is a good thing for the enviorment since the state run company is incompetent. If he keeps running off companies that have the ability to work cleanly he will have a enviormental nightmare. Hopfully he will not be able financially to start work in the orinoco belt one of the largest reserves in the world. The process required there is worse then fracking. His empire is based on oil and its exploitation and theft.
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12:27 PM on 01/09/2012
Oh, please. You think American companies are the only ones that know how to work cleanly? Oil drilling is an international affair and some of the best engineers in the biz are European. Norway has been developing its offshore oil reserves and it, like Alberta, have developed underground methods of storing excess CO2 from the extraction process.
01:24 PM on 01/09/2012
Hugo using his own experises to drill for oil.
04:43 PM on 01/09/2012
i did not say american companies--i said companies that have the ability he has run other countries companys out also