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Wall Street Employees Threaten To Quit If Bonuses Aren't Up To Snuff

Wall Street Bonuses 2011

The Huffington Post   First Posted: 01/ 9/2012 9:59 am Updated: 01/ 9/2012 1:57 pm

For some on Wall Street, a less-than-stellar bonus is simply too much to bear.

Brokerage executives at one Wall Street firm, Jefferies Group, have threatened to leave the company if their bonuses aren't up to par with other firms, the New York Post reports. Though some particularly stellar employees may be able to eventually convince their bosses to give them a bigger share of the bonus pie, nervousness surrounding dismal job prospects on Wall Street will likely keep most bankers quiet.

"It's a terrible time to be an employee," Robert Ottinger, a New York-based compensation lawyer told the NYP. "Employers know they have all of the power."

Any Jefferies Group employees that decide to walk will likely have to put their money where their mouth is. As Business Insider notes, company CEO Richard Handler recently said the decision to quit won't be without any financial penalty.

Nervousness about the global economy, new regulations, slow dealmaking and public anger at banks will likely push banks to slash this year's bonus pool so much that it will be the smallest since the height of the financial crisis in 2008, the Wall Street Journal reports. At Morgan Stanley, some investment bankers may see their bonuses cut by 30 to 40 percent. And at Goldman Sachs, many of the firm's partners' compensation could be halved.

Estimates of this year's Wall Street bonuses have varied widely, but usually see a drop from last year. According to a November survey from consulting firm Johnson Associates Inc., for example, bonuses should fall 20 to 30 percent on average this year. Other surveys predict an average drop of 35 to 40 percent.

Still, the Wall Street workers themselves haven't cut their expectations, with 62 percent saying they expect a bonus that's in line or bigger than last year's, according to an October survey from eFinancialCareers.com.

And for certain types of employees, bonus prospects may be getting brighter. Wall Street firms boosted their use of one-year "guaranteed bonuses" -- the practice of promising a generous bonus to a new hire before they've ever made a trade -- in 2010, according The Institute for International Finance, an industry advocacy group. Banks often use guaranteed bonuses to lure potential employees and the industry faced "senior staff hiring pressures" in 2010, the report found.

Though bonuses may be down overall, total compensation, which includes salaries, benefits and bonuses, is on track to exceed 2010 levels at seven big banks, according to an analysis of compensation data from the first three quarters of 2011 by the Public Accountability Initiative. The December report found that compensation will likely hit a record $156 billion -- a 3.7 percent boost from 2010.

But as that compensation is on track to rise, another more ominous metric is going up as well. At least 10,000 more Wall Street workers will likely lose their jobs by the end of 2012, according to an estimate from the New York State comptroller cited by the New York Times.

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For some on Wall Street, a less-than-stellar bonus is simply too much to bear. Brokerage executives at one Wall Street firm, Jefferies Group, have threatened to leave the company if their bonuses ...
For some on Wall Street, a less-than-stellar bonus is simply too much to bear. Brokerage executives at one Wall Street firm, Jefferies Group, have threatened to leave the company if their bonuses ...
 
 
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oldgoat
Taxed; but not represented.
04:19 PM on 01/15/2012
Some people have posted that these people should be jailed and some heartily disagree, I don't think anyone should be jailed without a proper trial and convicted of a crime, but please,----can we pepper spray a couple of them just to let them see what its like and report to their "buddies" at FOX :).
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savantpm
03:43 PM on 01/23/2012
I fully agree.
oldgoat
Taxed; but not represented.
04:02 PM on 01/15/2012
As an addendum to my last comment may I observe,--Trickle down economics is quickly becoming trickle up poverty---.
oldgoat
Taxed; but not represented.
03:57 PM on 01/15/2012
Back in the 70's when we were fighting to keep what our predecessors had won on their contracts executives were saying that we were "communist---unAmerican---not willing to sacrifice to help compete with foriegn interest (even though we didn't have any foriegn interest to compete with),"
AIl the while, the execs were increasing their salaries (we caught them), guess that there is a different standard between workers and execs, but you know, no one believed us back then.
-----We did try to warn everyone----- Too bad.
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Lauren Kottwitz
There must be some kind of way out of here...
01:59 PM on 01/12/2012
...ummmmmmm. Aren't bonuses supposed to be awarded because of stellar performance? As opposed to, say, the utter crippling of our economy? What are they getting bonuses for in the first place?
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jannas2cents
08:55 PM on 01/11/2012
I hope they do quit! It's be good news for everyone! The current crop of Wall St employees could be easily replaced with eager, less greedy folks -- and they could probably hire at least 3 new people for what they're paying these people.
06:02 PM on 01/11/2012
Let them quit. In fact, let them all quit and get out of here.
05:42 PM on 01/11/2012
Public employees in my state haven't seen a raise in three years. No cost of living increases. Yet these greedy SOB's are crying foul over the potential loss of six-digit bonuses? BONUSES! Not salary! EXTRA MONEY!!! How can anyone NOT understand OWS after stories like this?
03:34 PM on 01/11/2012
AMF.
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Bigspot
Waiting for the golden horde
03:02 PM on 01/11/2012
Want to get rid of bonuses? Repeal IRC 162(m), the cap on "wages".

Clinton and the democrats in a effort to cap executive "wages" capped the deductibility of wages at $1 million. So now compesation includes wages and bonuses to get past the IRS cap.

You would whine too if your boss cut your pay 30-40%.
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ninjacb
not just another white dope on punk
02:39 PM on 01/11/2012
i am so sick of all the whining and sniveling. quit. and see how your repugnant party supports your desire for fair wages and bonuses. quitting over the size of a bonus seems to me to be the quintessential definition of a spoiled child.
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ScarlettMocha
The Truth is Relative, relatively speaking
02:27 PM on 01/11/2012
Then quit! Big baby!

Join the real world where competition is rough!
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katch
I'm the Hardest Button to Button
02:24 PM on 01/11/2012
Bye Bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Max Shaw
My micro-bio is no longer empty.
02:11 PM on 01/11/2012
This is fantastic news. Let them walk...right into the ocean.
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mikehart
12:30 PM on 01/11/2012
It's obvious they have their heads up so far the Sun will never penetrate.

I wonder if they really know whats happening outside those hallow walls

Oh well, just remember to "Step to the Back of the line!"
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George Costanza
My micro-bio is apparently unpublishable
10:53 AM on 01/11/2012
I'll be the 2,512th person to add my voice to the chorus:

Really? Do you mean it? Do you promise you'll quit? Don't tease us now...

Wall St. Firms -- Please, oh PLEASE! Call their bluff.