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Supreme Court Debates FCC Indecency Case

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MARK SHERMAN   01/10/12 06:15 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — In colorful give and take, the Supreme Court debated whether policing curse words and nudity on broadcast television makes sense in the cable era, one justice suggesting the policy is fast becoming moot as broadcast TV heads the way of "vinyl records and 8-track tapes."

The case involves programing that is available to all viewers free over the air – even though many now receive it through paid cable connections – during hours when children are likely to be watching.

Some justices said they were troubled by inconsistent standards that allowed certain words and displays in some contexts but not in others.

One example frequently cited by the networks was the Federal Communications Commission's decision not to punish ABC for airing "Saving Private Ryan," with its strong language, while objecting to the same words when uttered by celebrities on live awards shows.

Justice Elena Kagan said the FCC policy was, "Nobody can use dirty words or nudity except Steven Spielberg," director of the World War II movie. Other justices seemed more open to maintaining the current rules because they allow parents to put their children in front of the television without having to worry they will be bombarded by vulgarity.

Chief Justice John Roberts, the only member of the court with young children, hammered away at that point. Robert wondered why broadcasters would oppose FCC regulation, especially when cable and satellite service can offer hundreds of channels with few restrictions.

"All we are asking for, what the government is asking for, is a few channels where ... they are not going to hear the S-word, the F-word, they are not going to see nudity."

Justice Antonin Scalia placed himself on the side of the government. "These are public airwaves. The government is entitled to insist upon a certain modicum of decency. I'm not sure it even has to relate to juveniles, to tell you the truth."

But at least one justice, Samuel Alito, talked about how rapidly technological change has effectively consigned vinyl records and 8-tracks to the scrap heap, suggesting that in a rapidly changing universe, time will take care of the dispute. Already nearly nine of 10 households subscribe to cable or satellite television and viewers can switch among broadcast and other channels with a button on their remote controls.

"I'm sure your clients will continue to make billions of dollars on their programs which are transmitted by cable and by satellite and by Internet. But to the extent they are making money from people who are using rabbit ears, that is disappearing," Alito said.

The First Amendment case involves programing received by antennas on top of a television set, a house or building. Much of that programing now also is available through cable and satellite connections, but only the over-the-air transmissions are at issue.

The case pits the Obama administration against the nation's television networks. The material at issue includes the isolated use of expletives as well as fines against broadcasters who showed a woman's nude buttocks on a 2003 episode of ABC's "NYPD Blue."

The broadcasters want the court to overturn a 1978 decision that upheld the FCC's authority to regulate radio and television content, at least during the hours when children are likely to be watching or listening. That includes the prime-time hours before 10 p.m.

At the very least, the networks say the FCC's current policy is too hard to figure out and penalizes the use of particular words in some instances but not in others.

The administration said that even with the explosion of entertainment options, broadcast programing remains dominant. It also needs to be kept as a dependable "safe haven" of milder programing, the administration said.

Solicitor General Donald Verrilli Jr. said that if the court were to overrule its 33-year-old decision, "the risk of a race to the bottom is real."

But Carter Phillips, representing the networks in connection with the awards shows, said that little would change because broadcasters would remain sensitive to advertisers and viewers who don't want the airwaves filled with dirty words and nudity.

Phillips and former Solicitor General Seth Waxman, arguing on behalf of ABC, noted that broadcasters could face fines from thousands of pending complaints, including some relating to the broadcast of the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing. The opening ceremonies "included a statue very much like some of the statues that are here in this courtroom, that had bare breasts and buttocks," Waxman said.

As some justices turned their gaze toward the sculpted marble panels at the top of the courtroom, Waxman pointed to the one above the bench and said, "Right over here, Justice Scalia."

No one mentioned that those sculptures don't appear on television, because the high court does not allow cameras.

The FCC policy under attack flowed from the court's 1978 Pacifica decision, which upheld the FCC's reprimand of a New York radio station for its mid-afternoon airing of a George Carlin monologue containing a 12-minute string of expletives.

For many years, the FCC did not take action against broadcasters for one-time uses of curse words. But, following several awards shows with cursing celebrities in 2002 and 2003, the FCC toughened its policy. It concluded that a one-free-expletive rule did not make sense as a way of keeping the airwaves free of indecency when children are likely to be watching television.

The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York declared the FCC policy unconstitutionally vague.

The Billboard Music Awards aired on Fox in both 2002 and 2003. Cher used the F-word the first year, and reality TV personality Nicole Richie uttered the F-word and S-word a year later. The FCC did not issue a fine in either case but said the broadcasts violated its policy.

The "NYPD Blue" episode led to fines only for stations in the Central and Mountain time zones, where the show aired at 9 p.m., a more child-friendly hour than the show's 10 p.m. time slot in the East.

Justice Sonia Sotomayor is not taking part in the case because she served on the appeals court during its consideration of some of the issues involved.

A decision is expected by late June.

The case is FCC v. Fox Television Stations, 10-1293.

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pjordan
the time is right for palace revolution
09:42 PM on 01/11/2012
Every cop show displays graphic violence and more often than not the victim is a woman. We hear about how the victim was brutalized and we see the victim on the autopsy table yet Janet Jackson's nipple turns the whole country into a fourth grade classroom. I've seen the movie Tommy Boy on TV and when he flips the middle finger it is blurred out! Funniest Home Videos blurs out a persons butt crack and no one goes nuts when some fat dude with hairy man boobs is shown on TV! We love violence and gore but a few bad words, a "wardrobe malfunction" and it's a big controversy. This country needs to grow up and parents need to monitor what their kids see...not the FCC.
09:28 PM on 01/11/2012
Wow. Reading the comments makes me wonder if people actually read the story.

1. Not a right wing thing, The Obama Administration is trying to overturn the ruling that the FCC power to regulate speech is unconstitutional.
2. The ruling can not be 5-4. Judge Sotomayor is recused from the case.
3. You can never tell what a judge's opinion is going to be based on the questioning. Often they ask devil's advocate questions.
4. I'm a Republican Tea party supporter and am hoping this gets upheld and the FCC loses the power to regulate speech as well as government regulations against non-PC speech.
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SF TKF
Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
05:26 PM on 01/11/2012
Wait, I thought conservatives were all about the free market and letting the market decide? If “the market” (aka parents and the advertisers who want to reach them) can support censored TV, let it. If not, then broadcasters should be able to create and air shows that do appeal. Right?
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SantaMonican
Visit the carousel, in the Hippodrome, on the pier
05:15 PM on 01/11/2012
Let Public Television be "indecency free" stations......or would that be too much of a reason for the GOP to stop trying to kill PBS.
01:18 PM on 01/11/2012
Obviously you don't deal in reality. Dreamers like you will continue to sleep. THE VOTE WILL BE 5 - 4. OOOOOPS ! !
12:03 PM on 01/11/2012
I'm disturbed by the questions the justices are asking as part of the arguments. Their sole job is to interpret the laws and the constitution based on legal merit. For Roberts to say "All we are asking for, what the government is asking for, is a few channels where ... they are not going to hear the S-word, the F-word, they are not going to see nudity." is a good example.

Who is "we" Judge Roberts? If you cared about your group of "we" you should have gone to work for a true advocacy group and not the supreme court of the united states.
11:54 AM on 01/11/2012
Roberts says: "All we are asking for, what the government is asking for, is a few channels where ... they are not going to hear the S-word, the F-word, they are not going to see nudity."

Those channels already exist. There's no way any Disney program is going to allow those examples to happen.

It is the torrid imaginations of the delusional frightwing that 'think' it is so when it is DEMONSTRABLY NOT.
11:00 AM on 01/11/2012
Re: "Other justices seemed more open to maintaining the current rules because they allow parents to put their children in front of the television without having to worry they will be bombarded by vulgarity."

But children are "bombarded by vulgarity" in every other medium. And at school in the playground. I know I was - and I'm 60 years old now, so this is nothing new. This is naivete in extremis

Why do the rightwingers want to shield their children from reality? I'd rather a child know about the real world than a right-wing-created fantasy.
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Stephen Thorpe
Every Breath you take - I'll be watching you!
08:53 AM on 01/11/2012
War, dead bodies, murder and killing can be in your home via cable TV and video games,.......no problem.

But a human body is a first class offense. An curse words all kids hear at home and in the car from mommy and daddy OOOPS!!!! Soap in your mouth. Dare not cross the airwaves.
We don't want our little darlings having a potty mouth now do we?!

Hint - They do anyway!!!
08:41 AM on 01/11/2012
This supremo court attack is part of the republican plan to eliminate FREE broadcast TV.
10:06 PM on 01/11/2012
Free broadcast TV is already doomed. The internet is going to kill it long before any Republican can. Eventually the networks will all switch from regular broadcast to streaming video over the net.
08:28 AM on 01/12/2012
I for one, and there are a lot like me won't watch TV on the computer. And a lot of rich big business are lusting for that bandwidth and their republican lap dogs are salivating over the money they will get to give it to them.
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Roger Mann
07:41 AM on 01/11/2012
i hope the $%(& supreme ccourt rules against this (@$% we need to clean up our $%@# lives folks. if you people want to drown in the @^&*@ sewer go ahead. as for me i'm going to watch my favorite !*&^ movie ....pulp fiction
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spydrworks1067
02:33 AM on 01/11/2012
As if curse words and nudity are a problem in society.
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pixeloid
Reality has a liberal bias.
01:08 AM on 01/11/2012
These decency rules SHOULD go away. People always have the choice to change the channel. I don't get offended at the occasionally word, but I do find bleeped, or substituted words to be highly offensive.

However, I would be in favor of honesty rules. You can't actually force people to be honest, but no network that lies more than a certain amount would be able to call itself a "news" anymore. They should be required to post large disclaimers at the beginning and end of the show and after each commercial break.
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muzzled
Socialism and America are not mutually inclusive
08:22 AM on 01/11/2012
to heck with children right?
08:43 AM on 01/11/2012
You been around a play ground lately?
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trumbull desi
If I have something pithy to say, see below
10:23 AM on 01/11/2012
Your nom du plume is quite ironic.
12:39 AM on 01/11/2012
Most of the video games have far more violence and foul language than anything that can be seen on cable or the air waves. These games are often rated for young adults or hire yet parents by them for their 5 year olds.
12:25 AM on 01/11/2012
I am not a child and I am revolted by the trash on tv. Nudity, cursing, filth, gay scenes in every imaginable show, and the aforementioned things have absolutely no relevance to the story.
IF the FCC is going to pretend to be regulating and keeping the airwaves clean, then make cable and satellite tv keep it clean also and have the FCC fine everyone who doesn't stay in line, and on a consistent basis.
It is NOT entertainment to be bombarded by filth every time one turns on a television. How about some real entertainment for a change.
03:25 AM on 01/11/2012
Let me guess?? You're one of those "small government" loving conservatives. Conservative love big government when it's forcing their puritanical Christian morality on America.
08:44 AM on 01/11/2012
Sounds like he wants nothing but god tv.
11:02 AM on 01/11/2012
If you're an adult, then be adult enough to CHANGE THE CHANNEL. Or turn off the TV.

Solutions are so simple.