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Supreme Court Frets Over TV's Devolving Standards of Decency


First Posted: 01/10/12 07:18 PM ET Updated: 01/11/12 09:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- "There's a bare buttock there, and there's a bare buttock here," said Seth Waxman, pointing up to the historical and mythical figures that line the friezes along the four high walls of the nation's highest courtroom.

Waxman, the former solicitor general who was representing ABC, argued Tuesday that the Supreme Court's marble-cut figures looked just like a series of statues televised during the 2008 Olympics' opening ceremonies, which some viewers complained violated Federal Communications Commission regulations against broadcast indecency.

With his fittingly visual stunt, Waxman was attempting to illustrate the unconstitutional sweep of the federal government's content restrictions on over-the-air television networks. But the justices, though entertained, appeared unconvinced.

The Supreme Court first stamped its approval on the FCC's indecency regulations in 1978, when it upheld an agency action against a radio station's mid-afternoon broadcast of comedian George Carlin's "Seven Dirty Words" routine. The Court reasoned that broadcast media's predominance and accessibility to children justified government regulation of otherwise protected speech. The FCC went on to exercise its authority sparingly and narrowly until the past decade, when the agency slapped fines on ABC and Fox for, respectively, seven seconds of bare buttocks on "NYPD Blue" and several fleeting expletives uttered by Cher and Nicole Richie on live televised broadcasts.

Tuesday's case, FCC v. Fox, first came up to the Supreme Court in 2009, when the justices by a 5-4 vote upheld the agency's "fleeting expletives" rule, adopted in 2004. The Court's decision did not reach the constitutional argument against the rule.

Justice Clarence Thomas joined the Court's conservative majority then, but in a separate concurrence he attacked the 1978 decision, FCC v. Pacifica, that gave the FCC a constitutional foundation for regulating broadcast content. "The text of the First Amendment makes no distinctions among print, broadcast, and cable media," Thomas wrote.

With the 2009 ruling, the high court sent the current case back to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit. The lower court followed Justice Thomas' lead and struck down not only the fleeting-expletives rule but also the FCC's 2001 articulation of its indecency policy as unconstitutionally vague.

Anticipating the liberal justices' support for Thomas' position, lawyers for Fox and ABC pressed the Court this time around to recognize that changes in the media landscape have eroded the justification for treating broadcast differently from cable and satellite television, whose content the FCC does not regulate.

Only Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Elena Kagan, however, seemed to fully sympathize with the networks.

"The way that this policy seems to work, it's like nobody can use dirty words or nudity except for Steven Spielberg," Kagan told Solicitor General Donald Verrilli, who argued for the FCC. "There's a lot of room here for FCC enforcement on the basis of what speech they think is kind of nice and proper and good," she continued, calling the prospect of such governmental subjectivity "a serious First Amendment issue."

Also questioning Verrilli, Ginsburg focused on the chilling effects of the FCC's policies. Ginsburg, a well-known opera fan, posited a scene from "Metropolis" in which "a woman is seen nude entering a bathtub." Would that be allowed on the air, she asked.

"I think, Justice Ginsburg, that in a context-based approach, there's not going to be perfect clarity," Verrilli answered.

Ginsburg's question did not appeal to the Court's other opera-minded member, Justice Antonin Scalia. For Scalia, the FCC's indecency regime "has a symbolic value, just as we require a certain modicum of dress for the people that attend this Court and the people that attend other federal courts."

"These are public airwaves. The government is entitled to insist upon a certain modicum of decency," Scalia said to Verrilli. "I'm not sure it even has to relate to juveniles, to tell you the truth."

Chief Justice John Roberts, speaking to Fox's lawyer Carter Phillips, also seemed to lament popular culture's devolving standards of decency. "It was not the case," Roberts said, that from the 1920s -- when the law first enabled regulation of radio -- to the 1970s, "nudity commonly appeared on broadcast television or the various words we're dealing with here commonly appeared."

And Justice Anthony Kennedy feared that "the inevitable consequence" of striking down the FCC's rules would be that "every celebrity or wannabe celebrity that is interviewed can feel free" to curse at will.

Justice Stephen Breyer, for his part, spent the oral argument fretting over how best to split the difference between the parties and keep the ruling narrow. Because Justice Sonia Sotomayor, who previously sat on the 2nd Circuit, has recused herself, Breyer's handwringing could very well short-circuit any clear direction the other justices hoped to give on the constitutional question.

Perhaps sensing this uncertain outcome, Justice Samuel Alito offered a way out.

"Broadcast TV is living on borrowed time. It is not going to be long before it goes the way of vinyl records and eight-track tapes," Alito said. Instead of reversing precedent and upsetting the status quo for a soon-to-be extinct medium, he asked, "Why not let this die a natural death?"

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WASHINGTON -- "There's a bare buttock there, and there's a bare buttock here," said Seth Waxman, pointing up to the historical and mythical figures that line the friezes along the four high walls of t...
WASHINGTON -- "There's a bare buttock there, and there's a bare buttock here," said Seth Waxman, pointing up to the historical and mythical figures that line the friezes along the four high walls of t...
WASHINGTON -- "There's a bare buttock there, and there's a bare buttock here," said Seth Waxman, pointing up to the historical and mythical figures that line the friezes along the four high walls of t...
WASHINGTON -- "There's a bare buttock there, and there's a bare buttock here," said Seth Waxman, pointing up to the historical and mythical figures that line the friezes along the four high walls of t...
 
 
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07:52 AM on 02/14/2012
Does parental responsibility have any say or will the courts thru political influence which they COVET be the rules for us all....An imbalance of these Harvardite appointments will destroy us completely...
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Catherine Hogan
Dude.....wait......what?
07:39 PM on 02/13/2012
Bothers me that a butt is seen as indecent but all the murders and killings on Prime Time apparently is decent. I don't watch TV anymore, well mostly because there's nothing on, but I have also gotten tired of the violence.
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Christian Howell
The STEM. The Whole STEM. Nothing but the STEM.
06:09 PM on 01/23/2012
Nudity isn't the problem. The problem is putting up the lowest of the low as ROLE MODELS. Can you say Reality TV? These silly immoral shows have made tats and piercings a staple of high school life. Does this mean we will be lowering the standards for "forward-facing" jobs? We basically have to as kids are OUT OF CONTROL.....
11:56 AM on 01/15/2012
I guess FOX didn't come up with a big enough paycheck for the conservatives to flow their way. Now filing suit against Faux(Fox) News, I'm for that but considering the conservatives on the bench support it we'll never seen them taken to court for their outrageously obscene presentation of what they shove down people throats as the news.
08:21 AM on 01/12/2012
For those of you that can use 4 or 5 filthy words in a single sentence please tell everyone else why it is so important to do this. Do you really believe other people will think you have a high I.Q. ?
I have watched more that a thousand movies without a single 4 letter word. Gee whiz am I really
missing out on something. Actually these movies entertain me, the actors make me feel like they are really the charaters they play. So, what is wrong with me ? What is wrong with you?
10:33 AM on 01/12/2012
Can you explain why words are so upsetting to you? To the point of censorship? Gee wiz is sometimes a poor substitute for conveying emotion or a realistic response.
07:44 PM on 01/23/2012
You can watch any kind of movies you want -- your personal preferences, however, are only the basis upon which you CONSUME art, and are entirely irrelevant to those who create art or speach. When you use th least common denominator (you) to set the limits of expression, we get the least of human creativity.
01:24 AM on 01/12/2012
The court's decision was right. I was raised in the era of one piece bathing suits.
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CA93010
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11:14 PM on 01/11/2012
Interesting.

FCC allows blood, guts and gore to be shown like it's going out of style, but a butt cheek or woman's breast is "indecent".

Is there any wonder why video games and porn make so much more money than TV? Any wonder why the U.S. leads the world in crime?
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jmoderate99
Ronald Reagan supported gun control
09:44 PM on 01/11/2012
No good @$#% *&$! conservative #@$#. They can %$#$ #! &%*#
06:57 PM on 01/11/2012
when tv went analog to digital my set went off forever. no way was i going to pay 20$ for some stupid box.
07:45 PM on 01/23/2012
And how much did you pay for your tv? I bet that "stupid box" was more than $20.
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be practical
I'll Never Understand the GOP Mind
04:58 PM on 01/11/2012
" Justice Clarence Thomas joined the Court's conservative majority then, but in a separate concurrence he attacked the 1978 decision, FCC v. Pacifica, that gave the FCC a constitutional foundation for regulating broadcast content. "The text of the First Amendment makes no distinctions among print, broadcast, and cable media," Thomas wrote"

Then why in hll did he side with the conserve majority if he didn't think it was constitutional? Is that the job we hired him to do - follow the crowd - not the law?
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moonlightesq
05:11 PM on 01/11/2012
Ruling on the side of the majority does not means a justice concluded on the same reasoning as the majoritt opinion. That is what concurrences are for - coming to the same conclusion, but on different reasoning. Concurrences are important in the development of law and what to expect in the future, because it gives us insight into the reasons behind the ruling.
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iman927
Trolling is a art.
02:09 PM on 01/11/2012
I read the oral argument, and I think FOX/ABC should win this one. They won't, but they should. In order to win, it will have to be all of the liberals and Thomas, as I don't think Kennedy is going to rule in favor of FOX/ABC. Thomas seems to be the closest of the conservatives to think that what the FCC is doing is wrong.

My view of the correct statement of the First Amendment here was said by ABC's attorney: "A regime in which government officials decide years after the fact that 7 seconds of rear nudity in this particular episode of "NYPD Blue" is indecent, but 40 seconds of nudity including full frontal nudity in "Catch-22" is not; that expletives in a documentary about blues musicians is indecent, but even more of those expletives in a fictional movie about World War II is not, is constitutionally intolerable." Well said.
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JonShank
Changing the world one person at a time...
01:24 PM on 01/11/2012
More big conservative gov't crap coming our way.
deepthicket
A man is as big as the things that make him mad.
01:11 PM on 01/11/2012
Alito proves he is a technological moron. Apparently he is unaware that vinyl LPs haven't gone anywhere, but remain the highest-quality medium available for recorded sound. Who told him broadcast TV is on borrowed time, his cable guy?
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Fez
Ignorance is no excuse for the law.
11:32 AM on 01/11/2012
Indecent TV is watching Guido Scalia throw fascist gang signs as he attempts to turn this country into a Catholic theocracy.
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Ricardo01
The poodle chews it.
11:31 AM on 01/11/2012
Just put Clarence Thomas in charge of deciding what is porn. He seems to be the expert.