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To Build Longest Floating Bridge, Washington State Tolls Route 520

520 Floating Bridge

Posted: 01/11/12 11:47 PM ET

Seattle and its suburbs are divided by Lake Washington, a 33.8-square-mile remnant of the ice ages. The lake presents a formidable obstacle to would-be bridge builders. It is too deep, and its bed too soft, to be spanned by a normal bridge. So almost 50 years ago, Washington state opted for a bridge that floats -- a 7,578-foot monster of a bridge on pontoons.

Now, as the bridge nears the end of its design life, the state is building a brand-new replacement floating bridge. At 7,710 feet, it will be even longer than the old record holder. A single one of its hulking concrete pontoons will be as long as a football field and weigh as much as 23 Boeing 747 jets.

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A rendering of the new bridge.

"It's a world-class project," said Craig Stone, toll division director for Washington's Department of Transportation. But a world-class project comes with a world-class price tag: $2.4 billion just for the bridge and associated work. To pay for all that, the state is relying on tolls, the first on the Route 520 bridge since 1979, to raise $1 billion.

The tolls, said Stone, are "essential to our funding package."

They will also serve as a high-profile test of congestion pricing, which economists say could redefine the way Americans commute by offering motorists the chance to pay more for a quicker drive. Before the tolls were instituted, the 520 was often congested. The tolls on the Route 520 bridge will also show whether such "user fees" can help dig America out of its infrastructure hole.

If the tolls succeed, they will be another step on the road toward redefining transportation infrastructure not solely as a public good to be paid for by all but as a scarce good like any other to be purchased on the market.

Drivers "are responding to those price points, definitely," Stone said. According to the transportation department, traffic overall is down 40 percent (the state had guessed a 38 percent decline), but commute times are faster.

All that rational response to price signaling might elicit a smile from a free market enthusiast like Milton Friedman (who proposed an early version of congestion pricing in 1951) or the Bush administration's Department of Transportation (who provided critical funding to institute it in the Seattle region).

Mobile phone app developers have even gotten in on congestion pricing act -- a development that Stone wryly referred to as an example of the state DOT "spurring private innovation."

Gabe Brown is the developer of 520 or 90, one of two apps that use real-time traffic and toll pricing data to help drivers weigh the costs, in time and money, of taking either the Route 520 or the I-90 span, a untolled floating bridge to the south to destinations on both sides of the lake.

Thousands of people have already installed his app to help them make the call, Brown said, adding, "The bulk of our users are preferring to save money right now."

Over the course of a month, paying more to take the Route 520 bridge would save the average user eight hours of travel time a month, he said.

"If you take 90, the slower route but cheaper, you'll save $90 -- the equivalent of dinner for two at the Space Needle. So it's kind of an interesting trade-off that people take," Brown said.

But some worry that if tolls and other "user fees" fix our highways, the low-income drivers who can least afford them will get hurt the most.

"The standard story is they're regressive," said Robert D. Plotnick, a professor at the University of Washington's Evans School of Public Affairs. "Because if you look at the people who use the bridge, by definition when you pay the tolls, it takes a higher portion of your salary if you're poor than if you're rich,"

But in the case of the Route 520 bridge, at least, low-income Seattleites won't be hit very hard, according to a paper by Plotnick backed by funding from the state's transportation department. Very few low-income people, only 1 percent of those in the region, take the bridge. And Washington state's tax structure is "one of the most regressive in the country," said Plotnick, so tolling is better than other ways the bridge might have been paid for, at least in the absence of more federal dollars.

Plotnick cautioned the same conditions might not hold for Atlanta or Los Angeles. "These findings are really specific to Puget Sound," he said. "It really depends on the local characteristics -- where the poor live, where they work."

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Seattle and its suburbs are divided by Lake Washington, a 33.8-square-mile remnant of the ice ages. The lake presents a formidable obstacle to would-be bridge builders. It is too deep, and its bed too...
Seattle and its suburbs are divided by Lake Washington, a 33.8-square-mile remnant of the ice ages. The lake presents a formidable obstacle to would-be bridge builders. It is too deep, and its bed too...
 
 
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04:21 PM on 01/12/2012
Why are they building a new bridge?
05:41 PM on 01/12/2012
they are adding things like bike routes and a train as well i believe to improve the overall commute time and add more public transportation like bus routes etc. I take the 520 to work everyday on the bus. I used to drive and it was a nightmare. hopefully this will resolve some of that. Though the toll is pretty taxed at $ 4.30 at peak times and that is just one way.
07:03 PM on 01/13/2012
Old one is worn out. The rebar in the concrete is rusting and scaling, and flakes of concrete are coming off. The bridge sections are big floating concrete boxes, and if water starts to leak into them faster than it can be pumped out they will sink. That would be unfortunate for people stuck in standstill traffic watching hydroplanes and blue angels go by.
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snowballinhell
Humans have a 100% chance of extinction
01:43 PM on 01/12/2012
Seems to me that toll roads were build here in Texas a few years back thanks to R. Perry. People are not using them. The crowded interstate through Austin is still over crowded with big trucks and thousands of cars each day. People here feel we paid for the roads once. We don't have to do it again,
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Valerie Keefe
01:36 PM on 01/12/2012
The best solution to the regressiveness of toll roads is twofold: Infill and good, high-speed, public transit. In a world where only the wealthy can afford a private car, shouldn't the convenience a private car provides no longer be a necessity but merely a luxury?
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DismayedRepub
300Mm/s Not just common sense, it’s the law
01:59 PM on 01/12/2012
Not on the West Coast where there are long distances between destinations.
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Valerie Keefe
03:38 PM on 01/12/2012
I live in Edmonton, the most sprawled city in North America. What I'm saying is we need to make public transit the norm, through efficient city design and subsidies.
02:02 PM on 01/12/2012
Well that or just live closer to where you work, but I agree that transit is an important solution that too often gets overlooked.
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Valerie Keefe
03:39 PM on 01/12/2012
Well, I do try to live close to my job, but again, we live in an age where having fifteen employers is more-or-less the average for a career.
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lastmanstanding99
"THE BANKS OWN EVERYTHING!"
01:23 PM on 01/12/2012
I live in washington, don't worry, they'll mess it up? World's most expensive floating bridge with the longest backups? or something like that?
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patrickgarret
01:59 PM on 01/12/2012
I wonder how many light rail lines could be built with those "Billions". Like an I-90 line. Seattle needs to look to PORTLAND for advice.
garystartswithg
el sueno de la razon produce republicans
01:21 PM on 01/12/2012
and if eisenhower decided the interstates should all be toll roads how different do you think america would be today? privatization makes a nice talking point for the greedy and their useful innocents.
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pleasantlyny
Addie, Carole, Cynthia & Denise, for you we fight
12:51 PM on 01/12/2012
its good to see america doing something like this. Im tired of see every other country get teh worlds best this or worlds longest this. great, hope i get to see it.
01:00 PM on 01/12/2012
Its replacing the current worlds longest. Washington State has the First, Second, Third and Fifth longest floating bridges, so this isn't some new development in record making here.
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pleasantlyny
Addie, Carole, Cynthia & Denise, for you we fight
01:06 PM on 01/12/2012
But the article did not say (as I pointed out that i am used to).... "hong Kong about to make the longest blah blah blah..."
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go2goal
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01:13 PM on 01/12/2012
What they failed to reveal....just like the new Oakland Bay Bridge, the steel and major components will be made in China! The project will create more jobs in China than in the US! This is what always happens when Republican economics are at work......lay off Americans and the hiring of peasants in China. The Republican and Romney labor arbitrage is a US national crime and crisis.

Romney is a friend of the communists and enemy of US workers!
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01:27 PM on 01/12/2012
links and stats please
01:28 PM on 01/12/2012
Ummm...I live here in Seattle and there are no republicans in this state! okay slight exageration but not by much! This is a democrat run state. get your fact straight!
12:38 PM on 01/12/2012
The other thing that was oddly overlooked in this article is that this is a drawbridge, and that the interchanges leading tot he bridge are also quite complex as well - That's adding huge amounts to the cost of replacing it . .

The rule has really always been "Unless you HAVE to use 520, don't" so this doesn't impact me . . But it IS a slippery slope in regards to tolling in this state.
12:56 PM on 01/12/2012
The slope is especially slippery because they are tolling a road already paid for by taxes. That's a legally questionable double dip.
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JWerner
Beware Macduff; beware the thane of Fife!
01:43 PM on 01/12/2012
That's the annoying part of this sort of thing. Taxes levied to pay for public infrastructure are supposed to cover stuff like this. Problem is that, even in a state like Washington, taxes are not well-liked or appreciated for their necessity. It's politically inconvenient to raise taxes, especially taxes on gasoline.

Since most politicians ultimately seem more concerned about their political careers than doinng the right thing, they'll opt for a 'toll', which only scr3ws over some of the population, rather than distributing the costs progressively across the whole population of the state.
02:02 PM on 01/12/2012
The original 520 floating bridge was paid for by tolls. The volume of traffic was greater than expected so the bridge was paid for early, and the tolls went away.
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Boodrow Malone
12:26 PM on 01/12/2012
This toll is just one more of many reasons that Spokane is a much better place to live than Seattle.
12:32 PM on 01/12/2012
How's the weather over there in Spokane this week?

I guess you guys have MUCH better prices on meth too, since all the bikers make it there . .
02:08 PM on 01/12/2012
...and Derpwood wins the thread.
12:42 PM on 01/12/2012
You don't want to get into a debate of pros and cons between Spokane and Seattle. Spokane is a time warp in which everything is 20 years behind modern times. Everybody still sports mullets and Bon Jovi hair over there.
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Set to Jet
01:16 PM on 01/12/2012
Yeah, but there are downsides to Spokane too.
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ProCynic
Those that govern intend to be our masters.
12:17 PM on 01/12/2012
The new bridge cost vs. the old bridge cost, adjusted for inflation, is over 20 times what the old bridge cost the tax payers.

Add to this that their plan to toll the bridge has resulted in less revenue than expected because commuters have decided to take the non-tolled route. Now the state wants to toll that route.

Add to this, the state wants tolls to cover other projects rather than the project they were meant for.

The state is asking for an increase of tolls on the Tacoma Narrows bridge, not because of extra costs, but because their contractors underbid in the first place to get the job and now need to make up their shortfall. Also, the out of state toll collecting agency says they need a bigger cut of the tolls because it costs more to process than they thought.
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AlonzoQuijana
12:10 PM on 01/12/2012
Two points:

--Why wasn't this let out to a private company? Have them put up the money, NOT the hard-pressed taxpayer.

--As for congestion pricing, I was skeptical at first when express lanes were created and tolled on the 95 in Miami. But you know what? It works. Less congestion and now a choice.
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beauwulff
I'm dyin' last
12:30 PM on 01/12/2012
1. A private company, after recouping its investment and making a good return, might decide to abandon it if long term maintenance/reconditioning costs result in better investment opportunities elsewhere.

2. I agree
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nikanj
free the fnords
12:33 PM on 01/12/2012
I was very surprised to learn that the existing bridge on the 520 route will be dismantled.
That should be interesting ! Especially the very high bridge spans on the east side of the lake.
And considering that the new bridge will have to be operating before the old one comes down...
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McCauley
11:57 AM on 01/12/2012
The first floating bridge across Lake Washington was built in 1940 and his since been expanded to six lanes. It is part of Interstate 90. Odd that the writer of the article overlooked this.
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12:24 PM on 01/12/2012
someone help me understand how a floating bridge works in an area where the water freezes! Ice expands and the bridge stays on top of it? How would the floating segments stay level with each other? Engineering was not my field obviously....
12:34 PM on 01/12/2012
Lake WA never freezes except in some very protected spots during a very cold spell . . It's 240' deep . .

Our weather here is not what people think it is . .

It's been gray cold and dry for the last 2 months, with occasional 50 degree rainy weeks . .
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McCauley
01:30 PM on 01/12/2012
Lake Washington never freezes.
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homer winslow
Truth in Beauty, Beauty in Truth
01:09 PM on 01/12/2012
Paragraph 10

Gabe Brown is the developer of 520 or 90, one of two apps that use real-time traffic and toll pricing data to help drivers weigh the costs, in time and money, of taking either the Route 520 or the I-90 span, a untolled floating bridge to the south to destinations on both sides of the lake.
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Y Woodman Brown
live & let live
11:52 AM on 01/12/2012
What would be so wrong with saving a few bucks and just building another like the first?
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12:15 PM on 01/12/2012
Interchanges.
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12:43 PM on 01/12/2012
There you go, thinking again. Politicians make their decisions based on electability instead of practicality.
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helioszephyr
What do you mean by "micro"?!
11:40 AM on 01/12/2012
"... and weigh as much as 23 Boeing 747"

as if the average reader knows the specs on a 747.
So, is that a fueled-up or dry 747? big difference.
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AlonzoQuijana
12:11 PM on 01/12/2012
Writer probably grabbed it off a press release. Lazy journalism.
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helioszephyr
What do you mean by "micro"?!
12:32 PM on 01/12/2012
precisely.
01:44 PM on 01/12/2012
African or European Variety?
01:56 PM on 01/12/2012
That only applies to swallows.
11:36 AM on 01/12/2012
One major point of contention that may be overlooked in the way the article was presented is that the state is attempting a "pre-tolling" funding strategy, meaning that the tolls have begun before the new bridge is actually in place.

The actual cost for a peak hour commuter (with the "discounted" electronic pass) is $7 per day, or about $364 per year. Even assuming taking some vacation time, sick days, holidays, etc, the cost is still over $300 annually. So if you're like so many other employees out there, lucky to have a job but didn't get any sort of COLA or other raise, I guess you'll just have to find something else in your budget to cut so you can keep going to work every day.
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AlonzoQuijana
12:12 PM on 01/12/2012
Or the regressive taxes could be raised on everyone -- users and non-users -- to fund this.
12:46 PM on 01/12/2012
That's how taxes are supposed to work. Most people don't go to the library or drive on roads in other parts of the state, but taxes still pay for them. Let't not start going down the road to a selfish society of "I'll only pay for what I use." Civilization doesn't function like that.

If you are arguing for an income tax vs sales tax (regressive) that's another story.
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ProCynic
Those that govern intend to be our masters.
12:22 PM on 01/12/2012
The average round trip is $7 X 5 days a week X 52 weeks = $1820 a year. Assuming a worker might have a few days off let's drop it to 48 weeks, that is still $1620.
02:20 PM on 01/12/2012
Thanks for the correction. (I did the math before my morning coffee and forgot to multiply by five in the process) I was going to post a correction to the cost figure but I guess you beat me to it.

Thanks again and have a good day!

P.S. I also was thinking about using a 48-week year as an estimate so I guess we were on the same page.
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LessonsForgotten
History Repeats Itself
11:34 AM on 01/12/2012
If we begin tolling to fund road projects I am sure we will see a decrease in the taxes and fees we already pay to fund these types of projects right? (registration fees, gas tax, ect...)
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AlonzoQuijana
12:13 PM on 01/12/2012
Ot at least they will not go up. Florida has done a great job of using toll roads. As a driver, I dislike them, but it is only fair that I pay and not someone without a car, or who does not travel in my area.
12:47 PM on 01/12/2012
Maybe the government should have soldiers pay for their own guns and uniforms. You won't be using them, either.
01:54 PM on 01/12/2012
Considering fuel taxes and registrations fees rarely cover the whole cost of road maintenance?