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Rick Ross, '80s Crack Kingpin, Would Rather Have Sold Pot

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First Posted: 01/11/12 09:09 AM ET Updated: 01/11/12 04:54 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- A leading distributor of crack cocaine in the 1980s would have preferred to have been a pot dealer, but was unable to find enough supply, he told The Huffington Post in an interview.

"I wanted to sell pot. You couldn't get pot at a decent price -- I couldn't, nor the quantity," said Rick Ross, whose operation the Los Angeles Times dubbed "the Wal-Mart of crack dealing." Ross built one of the largest cocaine empires in the country, expanding his operation to at least a dozen major cities.

"I could get a pound here, a pound here, once in awhile a few additional pounds, but I couldn't get a constant, steady, good-price pot [connection]. You just couldn't get it in the early '80s, when I was selling coke," he said. Prosecutors estimated Ross made some $600 million over the course of his career. The rapper Rick Ross took his name from the crack dealer.

(The real Rick Ross added, however, that he was not currently advocating using or selling either drug, but merely reflecting on his motivations at the time.)

A confessed inability to find a steady supply of marijuana might sound strange coming from a drug kingpin, but it dovetails with a broader trend at the time. For the book "This Is Your Country On Drugs," I looked at pricing data from the late '70s and '80s and found a remarkable divergence: As the price of pot skyrocketed, the price of cocaine plummeted.

Ross was locked in prison at the time of the book's writing. (His primary source of cocaine was Oscar Danilo Blandon, who was affiliated with the CIA-backed Contras, a part of this story that is too complicated to get into in this article, but is delved into in the book.)

"What I learned about weed is that weed is a more profitable business than cocaine. More people use it. You get it cheaper per pound. And it carries less amount of time," Ross said. "We just couldn't buy it. It wasn't price, because I had the money to buy whatever I wanted. So it wasn't the price. It wasn't available. It was a market I was shut out of."

It wasn't an accident.

The Drug Enforcement Administration's stated drug policy goal is to reduce supply so that price rises, which in theory will depress demand. But what happens in reality is that demand to get high simply goes elsewhere.

The movement in price was a direct result of policy put into place by President Jimmy Carter, then massively expanded by his successor, President Ronald Reagan.

Carter expanded a joint Mexican-American venture called Operation Condor, aimed at eradicating Mexican pot that had been supplied since 1975. American planes sprayed tons of herbicide on Mexican crops to kill pot plants. General José Hernández Toledo, fresh from the 1968 student massacres in Mexico City, led 10,000 soldiers into the hills of Sinaloa, Durango and Chihuahua. "Tons of drugs were destroyed, production was reduced, prices rose, but drugs continued to flow into the American market, although in lesser quantity of Mexican origin," writes sociologist Luís Astorga in the paper "Drug Trafficking in Mexico: A First General Assessment."

The action had several consequences. One, a rise in the price of pot in the United States, was intended. Others weren't. The growth of domestic marijuana farming might have eased pot shortages slightly during the '70s, but the industry was hardly the high-tech, high-efficiency bud-producing machine it is today. The encouragement of a shift from pot to cocaine importation among drug smugglers was a much more significant development in the short term. Coke, more valuable by weight and with a less detectable odor, was more profitable and much easier to move.

"Without question, in the mid- to late-'70s, there were frequently months where even working at NORML we would have a drought," Keith Stroup, the head of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, told HuffPost. "But there was never a shortage of cocaine, because it didn't have anything to do with a growing season ... Sometimes I'd go [to my dealer], and he didn't have any marijuana, but he always had cocaine."

Reagan redoubled efforts at curbing imports, further militarized drug policy and brought about mandatory-minimum sentences for minor drug offenses. In 1980, the FBI's Uniform Crime Report lists fewer than 100,000 arrests for heroin and cocaine, which are tabulated together. By 1989, that figure had jumped to more than 700,000.

But the first battle Reagan would fight in his war was against marijuana, which required laying siege to the once-ignored base of liberal resistance, Northern California. His Campaign Against Marijuana Production began in the harvest season of 1983. U-2 spy planes and military helicopters flew over the Golden State looking for green crops. (By the fall, corn, wheat, soybeans and the like have turned brown, making cannabis easy to spot from the sky.) The DEA reported seizing 64,579 plants at an estimated value of $130 million. Federal-law-enforcement figures marched in the streets chanting, "War on Drugs! War on Drugs!" The opposition printed bumper stickers demanding, "U.S. Out of Humbolt County."

The 1984 haul was three times larger. Nationally, pot-plant seizures rose from about 2.5 million in 1982 to more than 7 million in 1987. Reagan even began to go after "ditchweed," a wild variety of hemp that has no potential to get a user high. The first year that the White House kept data for ditchweed eradication, it claimed to have uprooted about nine million plants. That number was up to more than 120 million by 1989 and reached half a billion in 2001.

Unsurprisingly, such sustained effort drove up the price of marijuana. The DEA closely tracks drug prices and purity, although it doesn't often make the data available publicly. It did so most recently in 2004, and the numbers include a startling, if misunderstood, observation. "The marijuana price trends ... are not highly correlated with trends in prices of other drugs over time," the report reads. "While the price of powder, heroin, and, to a lesser extent, crack were falling during the 1980s, the average price of marijuana generally rose." An eighth of an ounce of pot in 1981 was going for $25. It stayed roughly the same in 1982. By 1986, it was up to $53, and it hit a high of $62 in 1991, a 150 percent rise over 10 years. Coke, meanwhile, become much more affordable. It cost nearly $600 a gram in 1982. As Reagan directed resources toward the pot battle, coke's price began to tumble. By 1989, it was down to $200 a gram, cheaper in real terms than it had been during the last national coke binge a century earlier. At the same time, average purity nearly doubled.

Clearly, the price trends are highly correlated, but the correlation is a negative one: In the '80s, price increases in marijuana drove demand toward other drugs. The war on drugs hard, soft, or otherwise helped persuade pot smokers to put down the bong and pick up the pipe, the mirror, or the needle.

Pot smoking plummeted under Reagan. About half of 12th graders in 1979 told the University of Michigan researchers they had smoked pot that year, the same as five years before. The numbers fell through the '80s, and dwindled to a fifth of 12th graders in 1992. The use of other drugs either stayed the same or increased as people started looking for a different cheap high. Reported use of inhalants nearly doubled, from 4 to 7 percent between 1981 and 1987. Cocaine, heroin, and meth use also rose in the '80s.

Heroin dropped in price by a third between 1981 and 1988. By 1996, it had dropped by two-thirds. The price of crack was falling as well. The DEA started tracking it only in 1986, around the time the drug's use became widespread. Its price fell by about half over the next five years. In rural areas, the price of meth fell by a quarter from the early '80s to the middle of the decade. If the goal of U.S. drug policy is to lower demand by increasing price, Reagan's drug war did precisely the opposite, driving people away from pot and toward coke and crack.

"Cocaine was readily available," said Ross. "People are attracted to the thing that makes the most money, the most profit. But I guess making cocaine more readily available put it in position to outdo the marijuana, because you can't get the marijuana, so you get high on what you can get."

CORRECTION: An earlier version of this story said that, according to Ross, he and Jamie Foxx were working on a feature film together. Foxx's representative later denied the claim.
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King7David
Hoo Yah!!!!!!!
06:43 PM on 02/24/2012
Why can't the citizens of the United States decide this matter which directly affects them. Why must we rely on those in government who have consistently shown, that they do not have our best interests in mind.

Below are options available to the citizens of the United States.

A referendum (also known as a plebiscite or a vote on a ballot question) is a direct vote in which an entire electorate is asked to either accept or reject a particular proposal.

In the United States, a plebiscite is typically known as an initiative when originating in a petition of ordinary citizens, and as a referendum only if it consists of a proposal referred to voters by the legislature.

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TFProleteriat
Hey, my micro bio is empty.
10:43 PM on 01/11/2012
See, the DARE people were right; Marijuana IS a gateway drug! It is a gate that stays shut until the government comes in anf ducks everything up, forcing people into other areas. Hmmm... Coincidence? I think not, since the gov was making money from coke.
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dbrett480
10:36 PM on 01/11/2012
That is total bull. (No surprise since he is a drug dealer). Pot was readily available, but the profit margin for pot is a whole lot less than it is for harder drugs.
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kingjohn1956
08:13 AM on 01/12/2012
A drug dealer and a liar also.Much more money in crack and a steady customer base.
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Jeremy Echols
07:30 PM on 01/11/2012
The war on drugs is not winnable.

Legalize pot, decriminalize the rest. Treat addicts, don't criminalize them. Regulate the market so the drugs are at least safer (look at meth vs. safer version of amphetamines). Get the money out of the black market and use it to help addicts who need it. Let the rest choose how to live their lives.
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TFProleteriat
Hey, my micro bio is empty.
10:44 PM on 01/11/2012
See, that would be curing the problem, something the "Moral Majority" doesn't want, they want to punish the evil-doers, like being a republican Christian makes them some kind of ni-bred super hero.
12:09 PM on 01/13/2012
As opposed to the liberals who are merely in-bred?
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King7David
Hoo Yah!!!!!!!
06:39 PM on 02/24/2012
Honestly, I think this matter needs to be addressed by the citizens of the United States in one of two ways, either a Referendum or an Initiative, as stated below.

A referendum (also known as a plebiscite or a vote on a ballot question) is a direct vote in which an entire electorate is asked to either accept or reject a particular proposal.

In the United States, a plebiscite is typically known as an initiative when originating in a petition of ordinary citizens, and as a referendum only if it consists of a proposal referred to voters by the legislature.

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georgecarlin76
06:11 PM on 01/11/2012
This was all by design. As pulitzer prize winning, suicided journalist Gary Webb showed in his book, Dark Alliance, the DEA/CIA was selling Rick Ross the cocaine and could undercut anyone. They have accomplished their goal because cocaine is dirt cheap now and everywhere while they still target pot and their #1 enemy. What a corrupted system we have.
05:22 PM on 03/26/2012
you are right sir the government allowed Max Mermelstein, from the Witness Protection program his stepson Luis Hernandez back on the streets to set up other black males so that they could be charge with conspiracy. Luis was sentenced to 17 1/2 years in 1997 but never serve his sentenced and was allowed to travel from Miami to SW Georgia and stalked me and my family for 4 years so as to implicate me all while getting paid by both agencies in South Florida and SW Georgia and what this is clearly in violation of equal protection of the law and it also show corruption in the courts and law enforcement community as well because if he was sentenced why he did not serve his sentence because he was released in 2002 according to the article" Cocaine King comes Out of Hiding For Screenwriter from the Miami New Times See also the book "The Man Who Made It Snow" so for all you bigots who want proof I got proof and the US Dept. of Justice know that I have called them out
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Squiriferous
Annoying everybody on Huffington Post since 2011
05:43 PM on 01/11/2012
Selling pot... LIKE A BOSS.
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Miss Peaches
When do we stop doing nothing?
03:33 PM on 01/11/2012
The DEA are the world's biggest drug dealers. If you want to fight a war on drugs, start there.
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Mr Hoodoo
"I Wish I Could Talk In Technicolor"
02:53 PM on 01/11/2012
Hmm. He always struck me as being ON crack.

I mean, he'd have to be to call his wife "mommy" and let her dictate their lives, the White House and his governmental actions based on what her astrologer told her.
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Fnordpocalypse
THEY LIVE - WE SLEEP
02:42 PM on 01/11/2012
Since it's no secret that the CIA was supplying coke to dealers in the US, is it any wonder that we are in the middle of a new heroin epidemic? History repeats itself, just a different drug from a different country.
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10:30 AM on 01/13/2012
Same drug, different country. The CIA was importing heroin from Vietnam/Golden Triangle back in the 1950s, well before it got into cocaine (at least that I've seen documented).
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Fnordpocalypse
THEY LIVE - WE SLEEP
11:37 AM on 01/13/2012
Good point!! Thanks for the correction.
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liberalviper
All you need is Love!
02:12 PM on 01/11/2012
One more example of how Reagan f***ed up this country.
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chadizzy
02:39 PM on 01/11/2012
It started with Jimmy Carter the worst president so far.
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02:48 PM on 01/11/2012
Jimmy Carter was the president that decriminalized marijuana, i personally would have spent my life in prison were it not for president Carter. When it comes to drug laws Jimmy Carter is the best. Not to mention his work in the middle east, and habitat for humanity.
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zenman2
Truth over Knowledge
03:02 PM on 01/11/2012
You idiots still think he brought down the iron curtain by himself....keep dreaming tool
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IrieMoon
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
03:21 PM on 01/11/2012
Nice micro-bio.
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davearnold007
The Talker They Lie, The Poorer I Get
12:21 PM on 01/11/2012
"The Drug Enforcement Administration's stated drug policy goal is to reduce supply so that price rises, which in theory will depress demand. But what happens in reality is that demand to get high simply goes elsewhere."

Duh. That is why liquor and tobacco still have a strangle hold on Congress.

Our government tells us what drugs we can legally take....you know, the ones that kill you.

But a study reported today by the NY Times reports twenty years of pot smoking does no damage to lung function.

Also, no one has yet reported being killed by ingesting pot.

And, of course, that means that pot should be a FELONIOUS DRUG??

Our government and those who support this regime are friggin backwoods hicks on crack.
12:12 PM on 01/13/2012
The main damage tobacco smokers do to their lungs comes from combustion byproducts. Combustion byproducts are combustion byproducts. That study is at best badly flawed.
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Jame Gumb
It rubs the lotion on its skin
12:20 PM on 01/11/2012
"The Drug Enforcement Administration's stated drug policy goal is to reduce supply so that price rises, which in theory will depress demand. But what happens in reality is that demand to get high simply goes elsewhere."

The more you tax cigarettes, the more smokers will supplement with pot.
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baxtron
tek phlarpt
04:41 PM on 01/11/2012
see Chris Rock joke on that issue.
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freedom1947
San Juan River Fishin'
11:16 AM on 01/19/2012
Taxes on med cannabis are there. Only excuse to suppliment with pot would be that it's better for you than ADDICITIVE cigarettes. Anyone trying to quit smoking tobacco knows about the withdrawls. Same with a drinker trying to quit. OH NO, I could quit anytime. If I wanted to.
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Mojito
"Change is a constant fact of life"
12:18 PM on 01/11/2012
"How a big US bank laundered billions from Mexico's murderous drug gangs"
As the violence spread, billions of dollars of cartel cash began to seep into the global financial system.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/03/us-bank-mexico-drug-gangs
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chadizzy
02:39 PM on 01/11/2012
You do know the guardian is a satire site and not credible right?
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02:50 PM on 01/11/2012
The Gaurdian is not a satire site, they are more credible than any US news source
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tek phlarpt
04:41 PM on 01/11/2012
If you live in a right wing authoritarian fairy tale, I can see your point.
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12:09 PM on 01/11/2012
Those In Power don't like marijuana because there are no bad side effects to using it. By which I mean, there is no hangover like alcohol. There is no gnarly withdrawal like with an opiate addiction.

In essence, pot smokers can keep smoking pot and never hit rock bottom! Those In Power would much rather see people use harder drugs and destroy themselves.
11:41 AM on 01/11/2012
It's called crack! It's great! And it's so simple to make! All you need is some cocaine, and some baking soda, and I think I tasted egg and cinnamon.
10:04 AM on 02/06/2012
how about when those street dealers used to get menthol lifesavers crush them and put them in a vial and sell that as crack! they also used chips of ivory soap. the transaction took less than 5 minutes and when the incensed buyer turned the corner to go after the punks they were no where to be found1 that was the best street rip off i 've ever seen. worked every time! remember that nasty bodega weed that the p.r.s used to sell ? they use to douse it with ammonia to hide the stale smell . i never copped in bodegas. if the didn't like you they gave you the ammonia weed. isn't the drug market the best example of a minimally restricted free market system? shws you how stupid the republican conservatives are.