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World's Biggest Telescope To Be Built By China, India

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By AUDREY McAVOY   01/11/12 11:33 PM ET   AP

HONOLULU -- China and India are catapulting to the forefront of astronomy research with their decision to join as partners in a Hawaii telescope that will be the world's largest when it's built later this decade.

China and India will pay a share of the construction cost – expected to top $1 billion – for the Thirty Meter Telescope at the summit of Mauna Kea volcano. They will also have a share of the observation time.

It's the first advanced telescope in which either nation has been a partner.

"This will represent a quantum leap for the Chinese community," Shude Mao, professor of astrophysics at National Astronomical Observatories of China, said in a telephone interview Wednesday from Waikoloa on the Big Island, where he was attending a meeting of the telescope's scientific advisory committee.

The Thirty Meter Telescope's segmented primary mirror, which will be nearly 100 feet – or 30 meters – long, will give it nine times the light-collecting area of the largest optical telescopes in use today. Its images will also be three times sharper.

G.C. Anupama, professor at the Indian Institute of Astrophysics, said the largest telescope in India has a 2-meter mirror, though the nation is currently building one that will be 4 meters long.

"So it's a huge jump for us from the 4-meter to the 30-meter," Anupama said in a telephone interview from the sidelines of the advisory committee's meeting. "It definitely will take Indian astronomy to greater heights."

The telescope, known as TMT, will be able to observe planets that orbit stars other than the sun and enable astronomers to watch new planets and stars being formed. It should also help scientists see some 13 billion light years away for a glimpse into the early years of the universe.

The University of California system, the California Institute of Technology and the Association of Canadian Universities for Research in Astronomy founded the telescope, which is expected to be finished in 2018.

China joined as an observer in 2009, followed by India the next year. Both are now partners, with representatives on the TMT board. Japan, which has its own large telescope at Mauna Kea, the 8.3-meter Subaru, is also a partner.

TMT may not hold the title of world's largest for long, however, as a partnership of European countries plans to build the European Extremely Large Telescope, which would have a 42-meter, or 138-foot, mirror.

Anupama said India hopes being a partner will allow the country to acquire critical technology that would help it build a 10-meter telescope at home.

Indian scientists would be interested in using the TMT to study the Milky Way galaxy and some of the oldest stars in the universe, she said.

India expects to contribute 10 percent of the telescope's construction cost. Seventy percent of this will be in kind, in the form of equipment and parts.

Mao said Chinese astronomers would likely want to use TMT to study the origin of planets outside our solar system, black holes, dark matter and dark energy.

China has leading theoretical astrophysicists, but it lags in the field of observational astronomy, Mao said. The telescope will help China overcome that.

"China is ambitious in terms of its science goals. Really it wants to catch up as fast as we can," he said.

He said China would contribute at least 10 percent of the construction cost, and more if its budget allows. Like India, 70 percent of its contribution will be in-kind.

Mao said the project will also be valuable for the image China broadcasts to the world.

"There are many things that are manufactured in China, but we want to move up in terms of technology," he said. "We also want to make contributions to world peace. TMT offers a great opportunity to do this."

All astronomers, wherever they are from, look at the same sky, he said.

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Blackspeare
12:24 PM on 02/13/2012
What's interesting is that the light we see from stars/planets hundreds of lightyears away is hundreds of lightyears old-----that star/planet may not be there anymore! And the converse if one could traverse through a wormhole to a point hundreds of lightyears from Earth and perch a super telescope pointing at Earth, with the right timing, they could see Columbus crossing the Atlantic or better yet the crucifiction of Christ!
11:43 AM on 01/21/2012
Since this is essentially a UofCal founded project, built on American soil - just HOW deceptive is the title of this article, really?
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gregory57
Micro-bio, was one of my favorite classes.
11:52 AM on 01/17/2012
All aboard for the American Dark Age... Vote Republican!
11:40 AM on 01/17/2012
China has one big advantage over us, they are not tied down with religion the way we are. Funding in the U.S is constantly under attack from christian conservatives as a waste of money, because the origin of the universe was settled in the bible, besides smart people make poor followers.
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Mamadea
4 MORE FOR 44
05:12 AM on 01/16/2012
Conservative politics are destroying the progress of America!
07:37 PM on 01/16/2012
Why can't you just call it what it really is........................... stealing.
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Mamadea
4 MORE FOR 44
10:27 PM on 01/16/2012
Conservatism = Stealing......... you got that right!!
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Stephen the Grate
There is grandeur in this view of life ...
02:35 AM on 01/16/2012
The addition of this telescope will make Mauna Kea a powerhouse for astronomers! The summit is currently the home of the Keck and Subaru telescopes, the former a technological masterpiece. Telescope time is precious to astronomers and with this new super scope, the ELT, and the James Webb space telescope we can expect them to unveil amazing new revelations about the cosmos.
06:41 PM on 01/15/2012
Countries seem to compete in every way, from the highest GDP to the furthering of science. If this is all we do, how are we supposed to protect our people? Our government, our country was developed to protect each and everyone's civil rights and lives. But our government seem to want us to fend for ourselves as they slowly tear apart our bill of rights and constitution just like how corporations can avoid taxes.
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LMPE
I connect the most dissimilar things
05:09 PM on 01/15/2012
How long before someone flies to space and moons the telescope?
10:58 AM on 01/15/2012
Great article but the video had no sound, though the commercial did.
If you want more people watching and reading, you need to make sure everything works.
If this was the fault of the BBC than I suggest you tell them to fix it or else...!
08:36 PM on 01/14/2012
Meh,
Im already well aware that we only research for our military. Everything else can be a spin off technology or we can steal it from other countries.

Republican incompetance...
Im sure someday ill be taking my biomedical research to another part of the world.
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CaroleK1970
I want my country forward
07:40 PM on 01/14/2012
I once ate Dal with chow mein, it went good together, so this could work too
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bbriani3842
400+ yrs of science & STILL no evidence for a god
07:35 PM on 01/14/2012
... financed by US debt ... because we had to got to war with TWO countries while giving billionaires tax breaks.

I'd rather have the telescopes.
03:36 PM on 01/15/2012
Well, You're in luck....The telescope is in the US, and with the exception of a 10% contribution from India and China, a product of CalTech adn the Association of Canadian Universities.
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pixeloid
Reality has a liberal bias.
03:51 AM on 01/14/2012
It's funny how much things have changed since I was a kid. Some parents in Taiwan and China are now telling their children how lucky they are to have enough food; unlike those poor American kids. I'm not joking.
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bbriani3842
400+ yrs of science & STILL no evidence for a god
07:36 PM on 01/14/2012
How I wish you were joking.
03:57 PM on 01/15/2012
LOL, I know the love for masochism is strong and all, but you are aware that with the extreme poverty outside the cities China is somewhere between Turkmenistan and the Dominican Republic on the Human Development Index and all. (but yes, it is much better than in the 60s when 30 million people starved to death)
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pixeloid
Reality has a liberal bias.
08:46 PM on 01/15/2012
Sure, but who cares about poor people in their own country? The US doesn't, so why would China?
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pixeloid
Reality has a liberal bias.
03:42 AM on 01/14/2012
The "European Extremely Large Telescope" sounds like something from a Monty Python sketch.
06:16 PM on 01/13/2012
So what? America has a replica of Noah's Ark.

Who needs a telescope when you have Noah's Ark?
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Rich Cash
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03:49 AM on 01/14/2012
What?
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10:45 AM on 01/14/2012
Sounds like you probably took a ride on it.